New Owner, New Beginnings?

Wammy Giveaway · Post #1 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:39 pm

Suns fans, have a question for you. Sarver has announced he's selling the team, right? One big name looking to purchase Suns that is circling around NBA circles is former Disney CEO Bob Iger. Iger is a close friend of Chris Paul, making it seem as if Paul will only stay in Phoenix if Iger buys the team. With the Suns having four Finals losses on its belt, perhaps all Phoenix needs to finally catch that elusive title is the magic of Disney.

But what if Iger doesn't? What if some other group purchases the Suns instead? Is there concern that an owner other than Iger could sway Paul into requesting a trade? The fact that the sale of the team is happening just weeks before the new NBA season begins is worrisome in that until an owner is found, this whole thing could be a distraction that may hurt Sun's chances at a great start. As a point of comparison, when the dust of the Donald Sterling scandal settled and Steve Ballmer officially became owner, the process took place around the beginning of the 2014-15 NBA off-season. And for the Clippers, there were rumors of a relocation to Seattle in a bid to replace their existence with the Supersonics.

Just to be clear, I don't foresee the Suns undergoing the same fear Clippers experienced when Ballmer's name popped up, Phoenix will be in good hands. However, I would like to get the Suns fans thoughts on what it would mean for the new owner. Could you see this owner pull off a Kevin Durant trade, or will they break up the Booker/Paul duo? Are there other names you heard of that could enter the auction as future owners?

SlovenianDragon · Post #2 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:44 pm

I say Kanye and the Kardashians buy the team :lol:

SSOL · Post #3 » by **SSOL** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:55 pm

Will only stay if…? Where are you getting that from?

The sale will likely take most of the season, if not the entire season and I don’t think there will be many distractions because of it. From a player perspective, everything is in place. This will likely impact management much more than the players themselves.

Slim Charless · Post #4 » by **Slim Charless** » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:46 pm

SSOL wrote:Will only stay if…? Where are you getting that from?

The sale will likely take most of the season, if not the entire season and I don’t think there will be many distractions because of it. From a player perspective, everything is in place. This will likely impact management much more than the players themselves.

Will it though? I feel like the Clippers sale was rather quick and we are in a much more sensitive environment then we were back then. I bet the league wants this Sarver thing done quickly. Same w/ the current owners of other teams.

Phystic · Post #5 » by **Phystic** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:49 pm

So you're asking if a completely baseless, fabricated claim that CP3 will only stay with the Suns if his "friend" buys the team worries Suns fans?

I think I can make this a pretty quick thread and answer for every Suns fan, that no this not a concern in the least. It doesn't even make sense

SideSwipe · Post #6 » by **SideSwipe** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:31 pm

Bigger question in my mind is if the new owner goes scorched earth and wants to rebuild, regardless of who buys it. Pull a Ryan Smith/Danny Ainge. I could see that playing out. This might be our last run at a title for a while.

Damkac · Post #7 » by **Damkac** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:22 pm

SideSwipe wrote:Bigger question in my mind is if the new owner goes scorched earth and wants to rebuild, regardless of who buys it. Pull a Ryan Smith/Danny Ainge. I could see that playing out. This might be our last run at a title for a while.

Seems dumb to buy a good team and rebuild it, especially when it's also young team.

SideSwipe · Post #8 » by **SideSwipe** » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:17 pm

Damkac wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:Bigger question in my mind is if the new owner goes scorched earth and wants to rebuild, regardless of who buys it. Pull a Ryan Smith/Danny Ainge. I could see that playing out. This might be our last run at a title for a while.

Seems dumb to buy a good team and rebuild it, especially when it's also young team.

I don't necessarily disagree other than that's what a lot of owners like to do. They want to build it their way and have success with their guys.

UTA was not that much older than we were last year. .4 years on average. Not even 5 months older on average. Also, I think our starting 5 were even older. Last 5 years UTA had more wins (4th highest win total in the NBA at .623), though it's clear that in the last two we were definitely the better team. All that and Ainge and Smith were happy to tear it down to do it Ainge's way. Similar to what he did in BOS to get Brown, Tatum...

Here is the reference on the wins
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-nba-record-last-5-years

jredsaz · Post #9 » by **jredsaz** » Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:32 am

SideSwipe wrote:
Damkac wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:Bigger question in my mind is if the new owner goes scorched earth and wants to rebuild, regardless of who buys it. Pull a Ryan Smith/Danny Ainge. I could see that playing out. This might be our last run at a title for a while.

Seems dumb to buy a good team and rebuild it, especially when it's also young team.

I don't necessarily disagree other than that's what a lot of owners like to do. They want to build it their way and have success with their guys.

UTA was not that much older than we were last year. .4 years on average. Not even 5 months older on average. Also, I think our starting 5 were even older. Last 5 years UTA had more wins (4th highest win total in the NBA at .623), though it's clear that in the last two we were definitely the better team. All that and Ainge and Smith were happy to tear it down to do it Ainge's way. Similar to what he did in BOS to get Brown, Tatum...

Here is the reference on the wins
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-nba-record-last-5-years

I think that Jazz team has run its course. Mitchell was already one foot out the door and the chemistry between he and Gobert had been an issue for years. I don’t see a new owner tearing this team down to the studs in the same way. However, I 100% believe she/he won’t hesitate to push Jones to make a splash if the team isn’t performing well.

garrick · Post #10 » by **garrick** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:23 pm

No one knows what the new owner will do, we know Sarver has huge trust in James Jones and the plan now is to build around Booker, Bridges and Ayton but there's absolutely no guarantee that the new owner won't blow up the team either to avoid the salary tax or to win now or later or whatever.

jredsaz · Post #11 » by **jredsaz** » Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:44 pm

garrick wrote:No one knows what the new owner will do, we know Sarver has huge trust in James Jones and the plan now is to build around Booker, Bridges and Ayton but there's absolutely no guarantee that the new owner won't blow up the team either to avoid the salary tax or to win now or later or whatever.

I mean I think any new ownership will want to win especially given the team’s recent success. That’s been the pattern with new owners. Big, win now kinda moves. I seriously doubt that any new ownership will come in and start trading stars for cash savings. Let’s just say I’m bullish that whoever purchases this team will have deep pockets. I also expect that they will be hungry to win and that can cut both ways.

Post #12 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:12 am

jredsaz wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:
Damkac wrote:Seems dumb to buy a good team and rebuild it, especially when it's also young team.

I don't necessarily disagree other than that's what a lot of owners like to do. They want to build it their way and have success with their guys.

UTA was not that much older than we were last year. .4 years on average. Not even 5 months older on average. Also, I think our starting 5 were even older. Last 5 years UTA had more wins (4th highest win total in the NBA at .623), though it's clear that in the last two we were definitely the better team. All that and Ainge and Smith were happy to tear it down to do it Ainge's way. Similar to what he did in BOS to get Brown, Tatum...

Here is the reference on the wins
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-nba-record-last-5-years

I think that Jazz team has run its course. Mitchell was already one foot out the door and the chemistry between he and Gobert had been an issue for years. I don’t see a new owner tearing this team down to the studs in the same way. However, I 100% believe she/he won’t hesitate to push Jones to make a splash if the team isn’t performing well.

Yeah that's the major difference. Whether Snyder, Gobert and/or Mitchell is still around, there wasn't a future contender there. They've also been a contender for about 4-5 years and never made it out of the 2nd round. Maybe they could've kept it together for another season but between chemistry issues, Snyder being there for almost a decade and a new GM, it was better to rebuild while asset value is still high and Ainge absolutely sold high. The assets they were able to trade for will definitely help with the rebuild.

With a locked up DA, Book, Bridges and hopefully Cam, you at least have a core there that is still young enough to grow/develop and also build around so I can't see a scenario where a new owner would come in and just break things up for no reason. While this team in its current iteration with CP3 leading will close its championship window soon, another one could open up again with the young core. I've said it from the beginning but the Suns essentially fast tracked the development and turned into a contender much faster than had we done it organically without CP3. With CP3 looking to finish out this season or the next, we're just reverting back to the old timeline except those 4 guys now have experience at the highest levels.