Better overall TV villain? Negan ( Walking Dead) or Heisenberg ( from Breaking Bad) ?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Either of you guys ever watch Boardwalk Empire? I always thought Gyp Rossetti played by Bobby Cannavale from season 3 was an all timer. They kinda ruined the end of that season with a "deus ex machina" but still Gyp was a great, nasty villain imo.

Damn man! I forgot about that show! So many great shows I need to binge again/ watch uninterrupted for the first time. The worst is when you find a truly great show but have to leave it and come back to it sporadically because of schedule, workload or other obligations and occasionally losing sequence or rythym in the flow of the movie. But another truly great add here man! Thanks man!

Actually I didn't and i really like Buscemi and Cannavale. I probably should. Going back and watching AMC shows over the last decade and sticking with them, like the ones I watched, and I also really liked Into the Badlands. That one was probably not as high quality but the fights were so amazing I really enjoyed it, and it was a unique story about an apocalypic society. Kind of a cross between like GoT and The 100. Not really a main villain though. I loved the character The Widow. But I felt like for a futuristic apocalyptic show it was miles better than The Walking Dead.

Into the badlands was epic and badazz I thought! The storyline was ok.............. But overall I really liked the martial arts fight sequences. I was pretty disappointed that it ended after only 3 seasons, but it is what it is!!

[lilfishi22]

There is no more nefarious, evil and despicable TV villain than this man

[SunsRback4Good]

There is no more nefarious, evil and despicable TV villain than this man

He’s an angel only Michael despised him for reasons which are unknown.

[King4Day]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

[lilfishi22]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

[SunsRback4Good]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

F
I heard season finale is coming up soon. Did you finish watching all the way till the end or stop around season 7-8 like I did? Cause I was wondering if I should continue till the end or rewatch seasons 1 to 7 how I’ve done several times over the past 5 years. :/

[lilfishi22]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

F
I heard season finale is coming up soon. Did you finish watching all the way till the end or stop around season 7-8 like I did? Cause I was wondering if I should continue till the end or rewatch seasons 1 to 7 how I’ve done several times over the past 5 years. :/

Was a follower until around the end of 8 or maybe halfway through 9? Things kind of got boring after the Negan war. It's going to take you a while to get through 7 seasons even if you binge. I normally just watch a decent Youtube recap.

[King4Day]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

No doubt. The problem is the plan was always to turn Negan good. They didn't need him to be THAT ruthless unless the plan was to kill off the Negan character.
Killing Glenn? That's fine. You can look at things from Negan's point of view. His people were mass murdered by Rick's group. He's protecting his own and setting an example. But the torturous way (mentally) he went about it AND killing Abe too....that's the act of a killer who should have been killed off. Not a guy you plan on turning good.
In the comics, Abe goes a different way. Point being, they should have saved his death for something else that could have helped further another storyline further down the road.

[King4Day]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

F
I heard season finale is coming up soon. Did you finish watching all the way till the end or stop around season 7-8 like I did? Cause I was wondering if I should continue till the end or rewatch seasons 1 to 7 how I’ve done several times over the past 5 years. :/

After the trainwreck that was the Negan story, they changed writers and it saved the show. Otherwise, I believe the series would have been over already. It was THAT bad.
This final season is pretty meh. I didn't have high hopes for it after reading the comics. I never understood how they could make this storyline interesting. They've done pretty good, but the show has run its course IMO. Thankfully it's almost over.
Now...if they'd just put "Fear the walking dead" out of its misery.

[lilfishi22]

Spoilers obviously.
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I choose Negan because of how tense and scary his villain arc was. You truly had no idea how the good guys would prevail (assuming you didn't read the comics).
My biggest issue with him was, they should NOT have had him kill Abraham also. It's too much, especially knowing his arc was going to have him to into a good guy eventually. It was too much and a mega mistake by the creators. They really blew that storyline.

Heisenberg broke bad and was more of an **** when he went evil. And even then, he was still a semi anti-hero. A better overall character, but Negan was the better villain.

I thought that was one of the few things TWD did well and that's kill off important or beloved characters you don't think they would kill off. I loved Abrahams character, just like I loved Glenn but if Negan didn't kill off these two characters, I don't think he would be seen as nearly as ruthless as he is.

No doubt. The problem is the plan was always to turn Negan good. They didn't need him to be THAT ruthless unless the plan was to kill off the Negan character.
Killing Glenn? That's fine. You can look at things from Negan's point of view. His people were mass murdered by Rick's group. He's protecting his own and setting an example. But the torturous way (mentally) he went about it AND killing Abe too....that's the act of a killer who should have been killed off. Not a guy you plan on turning good.
In the comics, Abe goes a different way. Point being, they should have saved his death for something else that could have helped further another storyline further down the road.

That's a fair perspective and while I do agree killing Glenn would've left an almost as big hole in my heart, I think Abraham was the cherry on top from an impact perspective. Maybe Negan's subsequent turn wasn't as well done but after that scene, I thought he was irredeemable which is exactly what the writers would've hoped for.

[m1chal]

Silco from Arcane

[bwgood77]

Silco from Arcane

Arcane kicked ass. Another animated one I watched even though I've only watched like 4 animated series...that, Pantheon, Undone and Invincible.

[m1chal]

Silco from Arcane

Arcane kicked ass. Another animated one I watched even though I've only watched like 4 animated series...that, Pantheon, Undone and Invincible.

Yeah, an absolutely brilliant show. I loved pretty much everything about it: compelling storyline, deep characters, animation, voice actors, fantastic music. Can't wait for season 2.