Game 6: Houston Rockets (1-5) @ Phoenix Suns (4-1) l Sunday l 6:00pm l BSAZ

[BobbieL]

Fire Jones
Fire Monty
Trade Ayton

that was kind of the narrative this offseason
the Suns are doomed
no moves were made
blah blah blah

[King4Day]

Jock could probably avg 15/8 if he started.

I don't want KD, but if he becomes available, Jock and Bizmack's play are likely going to make it easier to make DA the centerpiece of a trade.

[flagstaff]

Are Anfernee Simons and Anfernee Hardaway related?

Are Joe Biden and Joe Montana related?

I don’t think so

But, they're both named Joe???

[BobbieL]

Jock could probably avg 15/8 if he started.

I don't want KD, but if he becomes available, Jock and Bizmack's play are likely going to make it easier to make DA the centerpiece of a trade.

I want to keep Ayton
done with Durant - -suns would be a worse team with Durant

lets just use the expirings - I know Torrey is playing well - -but that won't stand in the way of improving the roster if needing to combine salaries

[King4Day]

Jock could probably avg 15/8 if he started.

I don't want KD, but if he becomes available, Jock and Bizmack's play are likely going to make it easier to make DA the centerpiece of a trade.

I want to keep Ayton
done with Durant - -suns would be a worse team with Durant

lets just use the expirings - I know Torrey is playing well - -but that won't stand in the way of improving the roster if needing to combine salaries

I agree. Just saying this could be JJ's thinking. We can manage with DA on the sidelines so swapping him for a superstar may be the direction he tries to go. And we wouldn't have to gut our depth as much since DA makes over 30mil now.
DA, fillers, picks could be the play if Jones still wants KD.

[bwgood77]

I don't want KD, but if he becomes available, Jock and Bizmack's play are likely going to make it easier to make DA the centerpiece of a trade.

I want to keep Ayton
done with Durant - -suns would be a worse team with Durant

lets just use the expirings - I know Torrey is playing well - -but that won't stand in the way of improving the roster if needing to combine salaries

I agree. Just saying this could be JJ's thinking. We can manage with DA on the sidelines so swapping him for a superstar may be the direction he tries to go. And we wouldn't have to gut our depth as much since DA makes over 30mil now.
DA, fillers, picks could be the play if Jones still wants KD.

We can manage? Maybe against the Rockets or a depleted Pelicans team. I wouldn't want to start those other guys in the playoffs against healthy tough teams/contenders.

[MrMiyagi]

Fire Jones
Fire Monty
Trade Ayton

Little late, but we appreciate you.

[lilfishi22]

I know it's still early in the season but am I the only one who honestly expected Washington to be part of the rotation this year? I know he played for a pretty crap Pacer's team last season and as always "someone had to score" so maybe his near double digit scoring and solid 20mpg might've been overblown but I just thought he had the chops to break into the rotation

Thats because none of you believed in Cam Payne.

Nor do I think he was worthy of belief after how bad he was last season. But sure, Cam playing well certainly factors into Washington's negligible minutes this season, I just thought we would've given him more opportunity to see what he can do. Not complaining since it's offset by Cam playing well but I would like us to give him some burn to see what he can do

[King4Day]

I want to keep Ayton
done with Durant - -suns would be a worse team with Durant

lets just use the expirings - I know Torrey is playing well - -but that won't stand in the way of improving the roster if needing to combine salaries

I agree. Just saying this could be JJ's thinking. We can manage with DA on the sidelines so swapping him for a superstar may be the direction he tries to go. And we wouldn't have to gut our depth as much since DA makes over 30mil now.
DA, fillers, picks could be the play if Jones still wants KD.

We can manage? Maybe against the Rockets or a depleted Pelicans team. I wouldn't want to start those other guys in the playoffs against healthy tough teams/contenders.

Just saying that may be his mindset.

On the flippity flip, a starting lineup of

CP
Book
Bridges
KD
Landale?

What team is stopping that?
Cam x2 leading the bench...

I'm not saying Brooklyn takes it but if JJ is thinking DA and heavy picks is gonna get it done, and the Nets were fine with that, how do we say no to that? We're still stacked and have the best starting 5, probably in the league.

[King4Day]

I know it's still early in the season but am I the only one who honestly expected Washington to be part of the rotation this year? I know he played for a pretty crap Pacer's team last season and as always "someone had to score" so maybe his near double digit scoring and solid 20mpg might've been overblown but I just thought he had the chops to break into the rotation

Thats because none of you believed in Cam Payne.

Nor do I think he was worthy of belief after how bad he was last season. But sure, Cam playing well certainly factors into Washington's negligible minutes this season, I just thought we would've given him more opportunity to see what he can do. Not complaining since it's offset by Cam playing well but I would like us to give him some burn to see what he can do

Nobody believed in Payne and rightfully so. There was hope he'd find it again, but he had no value this past offseason and I don't know anyone here who wasn't asking for a new backup guard to replace him.

Washington was good in preseason and I think since we did sign Lee, we need to see what we have with him before just giving his minutes to a 2-way player. We're limited to how many games Washington can play. If Lee stunk it up, we can cut him and sign Washington. Since Lee has been pretty good, it allows us time to see what we have.

I do wonder why we're playing Washington in garbage minutes though. Not sure if those count as games played.

[bwgood77]

I agree. Just saying this could be JJ's thinking. We can manage with DA on the sidelines so swapping him for a superstar may be the direction he tries to go. And we wouldn't have to gut our depth as much since DA makes over 30mil now.
DA, fillers, picks could be the play if Jones still wants KD.

We can manage? Maybe against the Rockets or a depleted Pelicans team. I wouldn't want to start those other guys in the playoffs against healthy tough teams/contenders.

Just saying that may be his mindset.

On the flippity flip, a starting lineup of

CP
Book
Bridges
KD
Landale?

What team is stopping that?
Cam x2 leading the bench...

I'm not saying Brooklyn takes it but if JJ is thinking DA and heavy picks is gonna get it done, and the Nets were fine with that, how do we say no to that? We're still stacked and have the best starting 5, probably in the league.

You don't say no but it really doesn't make any sense for Brooklyn and they are the worst rebounding team in the league. As much as people complain about Ayton's rebounding, we would be a bad rebounding team with that. But it would take Bridges too. Or Cam and a bunch of other depth/filler. What they would really need is a PF though. They have a bunch of 1-3s and a 5.

They are much more likely to trade Kyrie...for one he is expiring and may leave for nothing anyway, and then you have the anti semitic stuff that pissed off the owner.

Problem is they wouldn't want Westbrook so I don't know who else would want Kyrie. Miami could use him...trade Lowry, a young guy and a pick or something. Not sure who else.

But if they feel they can get past the weird Kyrie stuff maybe the re-sign him and maybe trade him later so they don't lose the cap space...or S&T him.

[King4Day]

We can manage? Maybe against the Rockets or a depleted Pelicans team. I wouldn't want to start those other guys in the playoffs against healthy tough teams/contenders.

Just saying that may be his mindset.

On the flippity flip, a starting lineup of

CP
Book
Bridges
KD
Landale?

What team is stopping that?
Cam x2 leading the bench...

I'm not saying Brooklyn takes it but if JJ is thinking DA and heavy picks is gonna get it done, and the Nets were fine with that, how do we say no to that? We're still stacked and have the best starting 5, probably in the league.

You don't say no but it really doesn't make any sense for Brooklyn and they are the worst rebounding team in the league. As much as people complain about Ayton's rebounding, we would be a bad rebounding team with that. But it would take Bridges too. Or Cam and a bunch of other depth/filler. What they would really need is a PF though. They have a bunch of 1-3s and a 5.

They are much more likely to trade Kyrie...for one he is expiring and may leave for nothing anyway, and then you have the anti semitic stuff that pissed off the owner.

Problem is they wouldn't want Westbrook so I don't know who else would want Kyrie. Miami could use him...trade Lowry, a young guy and a pick or something. Not sure who else.

But if they feel they can get past the weird Kyrie stuff maybe the re-sign him and maybe trade him later so they don't lose the cap space...or S&T him.

If it's true the Nets turned down Westbrook and the 2 firsts for Kyrie, I bet they're regretting that now

[lilfishi22]

Just saying that may be his mindset.

On the flippity flip, a starting lineup of

CP
Book
Bridges
KD
Landale?

What team is stopping that?
Cam x2 leading the bench...

I'm not saying Brooklyn takes it but if JJ is thinking DA and heavy picks is gonna get it done, and the Nets were fine with that, how do we say no to that? We're still stacked and have the best starting 5, probably in the league.

You don't say no but it really doesn't make any sense for Brooklyn and they are the worst rebounding team in the league. As much as people complain about Ayton's rebounding, we would be a bad rebounding team with that. But it would take Bridges too. Or Cam and a bunch of other depth/filler. What they would really need is a PF though. They have a bunch of 1-3s and a 5.

They are much more likely to trade Kyrie...for one he is expiring and may leave for nothing anyway, and then you have the anti semitic stuff that pissed off the owner.

Problem is they wouldn't want Westbrook so I don't know who else would want Kyrie. Miami could use him...trade Lowry, a young guy and a pick or something. Not sure who else.

But if they feel they can get past the weird Kyrie stuff maybe the re-sign him and maybe trade him later so they don't lose the cap space...or S&T him.

If it's true the Nets turned down Westbrook and the 2 firsts for Kyrie, I bet they're regretting that now

The Nets situation is a super tough one. I can't even begin to imagine what's the thinking in that front office. Between KD's trade request, request for the GM and coach to be fired, trying to get Ben Simmons going and fitting with the team, Kyrie being Kyrie and Kyrie being another level Kyrie over the past week, I really don't envy anyone in that front office right now.

If it was easy to cut bait with Kyrie, I think they would've done it when Kyrie sat out of home games during Covid. I just think it's far more complicated than anyone of us can imagine and I don't at all blame them for turning down Westbrook and 2 firsts even though that kind of deal makes a ton of sense as does just breaking it up now and get as many assets for the future as possible. But the more I try and put myself in Sean Marks' shoes to try and figure out how I would do things, more considerations just pop up and I just give up

[carey]

If it's true the Nets turned down Westbrook and the 2 firsts for Kyrie, I bet they're regretting that now

Who could have foreseen that he would turn into an absolute flippin' nut job? /s

[bwgood77]

Just saying that may be his mindset.

On the flippity flip, a starting lineup of

CP
Book
Bridges
KD
Landale?

What team is stopping that?
Cam x2 leading the bench...

I'm not saying Brooklyn takes it but if JJ is thinking DA and heavy picks is gonna get it done, and the Nets were fine with that, how do we say no to that? We're still stacked and have the best starting 5, probably in the league.

You don't say no but it really doesn't make any sense for Brooklyn and they are the worst rebounding team in the league. As much as people complain about Ayton's rebounding, we would be a bad rebounding team with that. But it would take Bridges too. Or Cam and a bunch of other depth/filler. What they would really need is a PF though. They have a bunch of 1-3s and a 5.

They are much more likely to trade Kyrie...for one he is expiring and may leave for nothing anyway, and then you have the anti semitic stuff that pissed off the owner.

Problem is they wouldn't want Westbrook so I don't know who else would want Kyrie. Miami could use him...trade Lowry, a young guy and a pick or something. Not sure who else.

But if they feel they can get past the weird Kyrie stuff maybe the re-sign him and maybe trade him later so they don't lose the cap space...or S&T him.

If it's true the Nets turned down Westbrook and the 2 firsts for Kyrie, I bet they're regretting that now

I don't think Westbrook would fit too well, and certainly wouldn't want to play with KD. I imagine they start to win a lot more with a new coach.