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Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM

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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#21 » by SkyBill40 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:00 am

Funky Tut wrote:This team is cheeks. The quicker we can trade the roster and recoup our draft picks the better . We aren't winning a title with this squad .


Yeah, dude... that's not happening. We're so beyond stuck it's not even funny. Only moving Booker will net us any really tangible returns and I don't see them going that route unless he directly asks out. He got his dude in Durant, so I don't see it happening. If any players are to be moved, even as hard as that'll be, those will be mid tier guys like Nurkic, Bol, Okogie, and Lee.

if they move Allen, that'd be a huge mistake even if he could be mentioned with the others I listed.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#22 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:20 am

Tough game. I felt the hustle was there for the most part, but so many shots in and out. Seriously, it doesn't feel like I've seen more shots in a game that rattled in and out. Beal was especially off after his hot streak. Hopefully they bounce back tomorrow night. Dropped back down to 11th, though still only 2 games back of 5th.

Regarding Nurkic, he never seems better than Plumlee. At least Plumlee can usually finish around the rim at 83%. Oso is actually our best big around the rim at 96%. From 3-10 ft he is 43.5%, whereas Plumlee is 29%. But Nurkic is 72% at the rim. A 7 footer. That's pretty terrible. He is 42% from 3-10 ft.

Basically I would play Plumlee or Oso more and just tell them to only finish at the rim. Nurkic turns it over so much too.

As frustrating as Ayton was, if we had his scoring/finishing/shooting ability, we'd probably have a few more wins. Even as down as he is shooting, it's still miles ahead of Nurkic. Of course defensively he wouldn't help much. But it's hard to have an elite offense if your big can't finish inside or do anything offensively. If he can't, he better really contribute a ton on the defensive side, but he doesn't do that either.

This isn't about wanting Ayton, but just general frustration at our Cs...even though our shooting overall was the primary issue tonight.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#23 » by sunsbg » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:42 am

Switch Nurkic and Gafford and it's a completely different result. As I wrote before DEN and DAL games if Nurk doesn't show up against these teams he needs to go. His slow ass is certainly useless against most other teams. Expecting the team to play better with his upcoming suspension.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#24 » by Saberestar » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:56 am

Nurkic needs to be traded or benched, this game was embarrassing for a 7 footer.

Other than that TERRIBLE shooting night for everyone not named Durant.

Beal, Dunn, Tyus...all of them had good or decent looks and they couldn't score from 3. And we missed an scoring option at the rim. Nurkic can't do it but Plumlee and Oso aren't good neither.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#25 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:54 pm

Saberestar wrote:Nurkic needs to be traded or benched, this game was embarrassing for a 7 footer.

Other than that TERRIBLE shooting night for everyone not named Durant.

Beal, Dunn, Tyus...all of them had good or decent looks and they couldn't score from 3. And we missed an scoring option at the rim. Nurkic can't do it but Plumlee and Oso aren't good neither.


Oso is 24/25 at the rim this season. Missed one shot and finishing at 96%. And Plumlee finished at 83%. None of them can really shoot outside of like 3 feet though.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#26 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Dec 28, 2024 7:28 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Nurkic needs to be traded or benched, this game was embarrassing for a 7 footer.

Other than that TERRIBLE shooting night for everyone not named Durant.

Beal, Dunn, Tyus...all of them had good or decent looks and they couldn't score from 3. And we missed an scoring option at the rim. Nurkic can't do it but Plumlee and Oso aren't good neither.


Oso is 24/25 at the rim this season. Missed one shot and finishing at 96%. And Plumlee finished at 83%. None of them can really shoot outside of like 3 feet though.

I think that's what we need, though. If they can give a 70-80% of what a Gafford gives to Dallas, I think things will open up more for us. We have enough perimeter shooting.
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Post#28 » by sunsbg » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:37 pm

Nurkic, Marshal and PJ to miss 8 games combined. All positive from Suns perspective.
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Re: Game 30: Dallas Mavericks (19-11) @ Phoenix Suns (15-14) | Dec 27 | 7:00PM 

Post#29 » by Slim Charless » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:57 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
Funky Tut wrote:This team is cheeks. The quicker we can trade the roster and recoup our draft picks the better . We aren't winning a title with this squad .


Yeah, dude... that's not happening. We're so beyond stuck it's not even funny. Only moving Booker will net us any really tangible returns and I don't see them going that route unless he directly asks out. He got his dude in Durant, so I don't see it happening. If any players are to be moved, even as hard as that'll be, those will be mid tier guys like Nurkic, Bol, Okogie, and Lee.

if they move Allen, that'd be a huge mistake even if he could be mentioned with the others I listed.


Trading Booker will recoup all we lost or use him to try an actual superstar to play with KD and Beal. A center.....

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