2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation

[Frank Lee]

Wishbia already blew this team up. We’re going to have to sift through the rubble for a few years and pretend it didn’t happen.



How about ‘Matty the giant douche bag’?

[bwgood77]

I would bet that is for Rob Williams.

Makes sense because Williams has 2 more years left on his contract so Nurkic having 1 more year it not a big problem for the Blazers.

Williams is exactly the type of C that we need, obviously the issue is his health but he is healthy now.

Nurkic + 2nd for Rob Williams.

Why do the Blazers want Nurkic back? that's the real question.

We don’t, unless we’re sending Dominayton back where he belongs!

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

[JRoy]

Why do the Blazers want Nurkic back? that's the real question.

We don’t, unless we’re sending Dominayton back where he belongs!

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

If it were possible, I probably would.

When Ayton sets screens at all, and it isn’t often, he looks like someone who has never seen a screen set in his life.

[JRoy]

Why do the Blazers want Nurkic back? that's the real question.

We don’t, unless we’re sending Dominayton back where he belongs!

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

POR certainly doesn’t have someone like Durant or Booker to draw a defense.

[bwgood77]

We don’t, unless we’re sending Dominayton back where he belongs!

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

If it were possible, I probably would.

When Ayton sets screens at all, and it isn’t often, he looks like someone who has never seen a screen set in his life.

Yeah, he can look embarrassingly bad at setting screens...or trying to. That is one thing Nurkic can do fairly well.

[BobbieL]

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

If it were possible, I probably would.

When Ayton sets screens at all, and it isn’t often, he looks like someone who has never seen a screen set in his life.

Yeah, he can look embarrassingly bad at setting screens...or trying to. That is one thing Nurkic can do fairly well.

How can the Suns get Ayton - aren't they over the cap and can't combine salaries

[JRoy]

Would you trade him back straight up? I know our team and fans wouldn't want that but man if we had a C that could finish inside (even with his decline in Portland in that respect), we'd probably have a few more wins and be quite a bit higher in the standings. But I imagine his efficiency would be better in Bud's spread offense than in Portland, where defenses can cave into the paint since you are 25th in 3pt%.

I'm one of the few who would trade Nurk back for him.

If it were possible, I probably would.

When Ayton sets screens at all, and it isn’t often, he looks like someone who has never seen a screen set in his life.

Yeah, he can look embarrassingly bad at setting screens...or trying to. That is one thing Nurkic can do fairly well.

Nurk is a solid screener and a pretty good passer, but turnover prone.

[bwgood77]

If it were possible, I probably would.

When Ayton sets screens at all, and it isn’t often, he looks like someone who has never seen a screen set in his life.

Yeah, he can look embarrassingly bad at setting screens...or trying to. That is one thing Nurkic can do fairly well.

How can the Suns get Ayton - aren't they over the cap and can't combine salaries

Oh, this was just a question....would you even do it. I don't think they can and I'm sure they wouldn't want to. He's way too young for the team's trajectory anyway.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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They need to try and look at moving some bench players for minor assets (2nds) to make more important moves and hopefully address bigger roster concerns such as our center position. Not to use towards a Butler trade though.

I agree - I would be looking to trade Tyus Jones to a contender for a couple second round picks.

But my guess, if Ishbia does that - its just all to get Jimmy Butler.

I hear you! But I still think Jones could pull a 1st for us. Obviously not a lotto or even a late lotto pick. But maybe a decent late teens to 20s' to late first absolutely from a playoff team that could use a quality lead guard. Teams like the Grizzlies (ironically), Nuggets, Mavericks, Wolves, Pelicans, Clippers, Warriors, kings, MAGIC, BUCKS, Pistons.

Teams for a decent to late 1st: (protected or mid to late)
Grizzlies, Mavs, Wolves, Pels, Kings, MAGIC.

Teams that I believe we could get multiple 2nds for Tyus:
Nuggets, Clippers, Warriors, Spurs, Hornets, Pistons, Hawks, 76ers.

I would emphatically try and move Tyus to the magic for something like their DEN (top 5 protected) 1st which would most likely be late 20s' but still counts as a first. Or to the Kings for something like a SAC 26' 1st (top 20 protected) 1st. A pick in the 20s' for a quality fringe lead PG. The Mavs (w/ Irving/ Doncic out) for something like a DAL (Top 18 protected) 1st. Denver for their 25' 1st (mild protections like (top 15)??? As they know that their pick would be in the late first 20s range. Maybe Milwaukee for 26' 1st (NOP holds right to swap) But added top 20 protections to us). OKC because the Thunder have six 25' 1st round picks
to use. Most likely their OKC 25' 1st as it'll end up in the 27-30 range. But again, it still counts as a 1st. Maybe the Pels something like MIL 25' 1st (protected 5-30).

My point is that we should be able to return a 1st from multiple teams just as long as we're willing to allow solid protections on the first. I can say this because many other teams could possibly resign him because he is in a different financial situations to us. I would accept multiple 2nds rather than nothing, but I'd push very hard for a 1st from some desperately trying to contend team needing a quality PG.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Wishbia already blew this team up. We’re going to have to sift through the rubble for a few years and pretend it didn’t happen.



How about ‘Matty the giant douche bag’?

[SunsRback4Good]

Wishbia already blew this team up. We’re going to have to sift through the rubble for a few years and pretend it didn’t happen.



How about ‘Matty the giant douche bag’?