Josh Smith a Sun?

[-SDU-]

whats duhons contract like?

[jax98]

whats duhons contract like?

It expires this summer at $3.2M.

We're not going to re-sign him. He's a solid PG, but we don't have minutes for him.

He's probably going to be looking for a similar deal as the one he signed 3 years ago (3-years/$9M)

[Mr. Sun]

Yeah but Nocioni is expiring... what kind of money is he looking for?

[jax98]

Yeah but Nocioni is expiring... what kind of money is he looking for?

Nope. Andres Nocioni is locked up. He signed a 5-year deal last summer:

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /bulls.jsp

Declining deal.

[-SDU-]

i can see a package around noci and duhon (resigned) being more desirable

diaw would be good in chicago as a post up player that you need.

i dont want to get rid of diaw but unless he wants to be more consistent then that deal is tempting

not sure if dantoni / kerr would do it though, he would more likely be pushing for thabo who mike has been keen on since before the draft

[jax98]

i can see a package around noci and duhon (resigned) being more desirable

diaw would be good in chicago as a post up player that you need.

i dont want to get rid of diaw but unless he wants to be more consistent then that deal is tempting

not sure if dantoni / kerr would do it though, he would more likely be pushing for thabo who mike has been keen on since before the draft

We're not the ones getting Diaw. Toronto is.

We're overloaded on players and need cap flexability. We're trying to get rid of both guards and forwards. We have too many players who should see 25+ minutes. Removing Nocioni for an expiring goes a long way for us.

EDIT: Thabo is staying in Chicago. The entire point of moving Nocioni is basically clearing minutes for Sefolosha & Thomas. His value has also gone through the roof the last couple of months.

Duhon doesn't need to be re-signed by us and then traded. You can easily pick him up with your MLE. $3M a year for Du is very reasonable.

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

I don't know what to believe but it would make a bit of sense to get Josh Smith to give Paul some incentive to sign with the Suns. That Barbosa + #1 for Josh Smith is a bit interesting, I dunno what to think of this.

What does Josh Smith have to do with Chris Paul? Paul still has to sign his extension. He won't be testing free agency for 6-7 years. I highly doubt any team is staking its future on guessing who they're going to acquire in 6-7 years. Unless you actually think Paul will sign a one year tender offer to become a free agent in three years. In which case, you're smoking the good stuff.

[JustMoe]

Outsider looking in (Bulls fan)

Josh Smith has extremely low basketball IQ and wouldn't understand how to play with Nash. He's a guy who has become very overrated due to inflated stats and block count. He gets half his blocks from behind because he lets his man beat him off the dribble in the first place.

Barbosa is on an absolutely terrific deal and is the superior player. There's no reason to trade him away, especially when Raja Bell is older and will decline one day.

I agree that you need a SF for when Grant is gone, so I have a player for you if you're interested..

Andres Nocioni. He has his limitations, but is on a decent declining salary and is a tough player. He shoots too many 3's for the Bulls' liking, but on Phoenix that would be welcomed.

A 3-team deal with Toronto involving Rasho Nesterovic could be interesting for all parts:

Phoenix trades:

F Boris Diaw $9M

Phoenix receives:

F Andres Nocioni $8M
2009 2nd round pick

Toronto trades:

C Rasho Nesterovic $8.4M (Expiring)

Toronto receives:

F Boris Diaw $9M

Chicago Trades:

F Andres Nocioni $8M
2009 2nd round pick

Chicago receives:

C Rasho Nesterovic $8.4M (Expiring)

Bulls clear some necessary salary, Toronto gets an all-around SF to compliment Bosh and Phoenix gets a SF who can score, rebound and play 2 positions (SF/PF)

Thoughts?

This isn't a bad proposal, and also one the Suns might consider, but what bothers me is this: why would the Raptors do this? Colangelo has made it pretty clear that he's looking to have cap space in the summer of '09, and this deal kills that plan. I highly doubt he'll be willing to give it up for a guy like Boris who's clearly overpaid.
Furthermore the Raptors would be even thinner at the C spot afterwards, and since Andrea has yet to prove that he can play well at the 5 on a constant base, I'd rather have an experienced big with solid D to back him up over a pure offense-guy like Brezec.

[jax98]

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This isn't a bad proposal, and also one the Suns might consider, but what bothers me is this: why would the Raptors do this? Colangelo has made it pretty clear that he's looking to have cap space in the summer of '09, and this deal kills that plan. I highly doubt he'll be willing to give it up for a guy like Boris who's clearly overpaid.
Furthermore the Raptors would be even thinner at the C spot afterwards, and since Andrea has yet to prove that he can play well at the 5 on a constant base, I'd rather have an experienced big with solid D to back him up over a pure offense-guy like Brezec.

Solid points.

However I was under the impression that Diaw could play PF and even at times center. If that is the case, you could start Bargnani early on, and let him slide to PF or SF with Diaw taking the time at PF and Brezec filling in at C.

But you know more about Diaw than I ever will, so if I'm wrong about my idea of his abilities, I'd appreciate it if you told me. That way I can tweek the deal a bit to make it better.

I actually didn't know Colangelo was looking for capspace in that magnitude. It's going to be hard for him to clear salary with Calderon being up for a new contract this summer.

[WTFsunsFTW]

This thread went from a silly fake rumor to a silly trade that will never happen.

Grade: F+

[chuckerz]

lol no way are the hawks going to trade smith away especially for their own draft pick. Thats the reason why they got mike bibby. They got bibby so that they are done with the rebuilding process and want to go for the playoffs.