Amare vs. Bosh

[rsavaj]

Of course Amare is a franchise player without Nash he was averaging well over 20+ppg.

PPG means nothing. Stephen Jackson is averaging 22 ppg, does that mean he's a franchise player? Zach Randolph, Ben Gordon and David West are averaging 20 a game, does that mean that they're franchise players?

Amare plays on one end of the court; by definition, he's not a franchise player. He's shown flashes, as in that Indiana game when he played a complete game, but too often the other parts of his game get neglected in favor of putting up points.

Nash only plays on one end of the court as well. Both players are great offensively and poor on the defensive end.

True, but Nash is an enabler who has indisputably raised the level of his teammate's production. He's been our leader night in night out for the past 4 years.

[nashill]

how about the maturity level of the two as a player or as a leader?its bosh for me

[BurningHeart]

Something the average fan doesn't know about Amare... probably his hands. The guy seriously never misses a pass. Everyone talks about how Nash makes Amare great on the pick and roll which he does, but Amare has unreal hands and catches everything and it allows him to be so special.

Dunno about that. I constantly notice that Amare has butterfingers. He had them early on in his career, and he has them now, albeit a little less. Either butterfingers, or he just needs to wake the hell up sometimes.

Something the average person may not realize about Amare? His FT shooting is almost at guard-level these days.

[Sun Scorched]

I can't believe this is even a discussion.

[tsherkin]

This is a legitimate discussion, most especially now that Bosh is back at the 4.

First, the peripheral commentary:

Amare is a higher-volume scorer because he's perfected his play in the PnR and because he tends to get more touches (though this year, Amare's around 23 ppg and Bosh is at 27 ppg or so for the time being). He's got the J, he's got the explosion, the reach, the aggression... he's a perfect finisher on that play. He runs well in transition, blah blah blah. Amare is a fine scorer... and underrated without the aid of a good PG, too, he's got some good iso moves (though they're all athleticism-centric, aside from his jumper).

You might compare physical attributes... but Bosh is 7' and has the best first step of any player in the league over 6'9, so that's not a route you really want to take. He's got the iso moves, he scores a LOT on his own, a lot more than Amare ever has at any point in his career. That's a feather in Bosh's cap.

Passing is also a feather in Bosh's cap because he's a lot better at it than Amare, differing situations aside. Defense is another pro-Bosh commentary, especially with Bosh at his natural position. He's got the length, athleticism and hustle to guard 4s pretty well. He's not an elite defender but he's way better than Amare (though Stoudemire has been pretty sound for stretches this year).

Bosh is the only reason Toronto ever succeeds and it's been that way for like 3 or 4 years now. If he had a real team, he'd go pretty far and there wouldn't be people saying "Why is this even a discussion?" and such nonsense.

I would tend to prefer Bosh, myself, especially this season, because Bosh is balling like a crazy man.

I would call it a close deal, though.

[Frank Lee]

Any team would be glad to have either. Though this may be a comparison thread...the thought of making a deal with BC completely scares me as I am not sure there is an ample supply of KY jelly for our front orfice.

Give me Elton Brand anyday of the week .

[KJ7]

Please tell me in as much of an unbiased opinion as possible:

1. Who is the better player overall
2. Who has a better offensive game
3. Who is a better defender
4. Who is a better rebounder
5. Who is a better shot blocker
6. Who would be better suited playing next to Lebron James

Also, please tell me some interesting things about Amare's game...that the average nba fan doesnt know about him..

who is the better player overall

Gotta say that this is a tight one to call. There's really not much to separate them so I'll have to say this one is a tie.

Who has a better offensive game

They both approach the offense slightly differently. Bosh is more of a back-to-the-basket player and is much better in that approach then Amare. Not only does he have better moves he is also *much* more aware of where team-mates are when he has the ball in the post.

Not that Bosh is bad facing the basket but IMO Amare has it over him. Better jumper (not that Bosh is bad) and he just handles body-contact when he drives a lot better than Bosh. He manages to adjust to that a bit better and I think his strength really sees him excel here where as Bosh just doesn't have the body strength to really handle it as well.

I would say Bosh shades him purely because he's more versatile and his half-court game is more polished.

who is a better rebounder

When i watch both these guys play I think they should both be rebounding more. I'll give this one *slightly* to Amare purely because at least he has had good rebounders beside him which could be a bit of an excuse as to why his numbers aren't better. Bosh really hasn't had a defensive rebounding beast next to him and still doesn't put up the numbers he should.

Who is a better shot blocker

Amare all the way here. Just moves quickly from the weakside.

Who would be better suited playing next to Lebron James

I actually think Bosh would be. Purely because he just has the versatility on offense which would make using Lebron more adaptable. Having 2 star players who are both inside-outside offensive players gives you quite a bit of flexibility and they can feed off one-another. With Amare next to him they might become a bit predictable and dependent on Lebron to create (depends who they have surrounding those 2 players of course).

[TASTIC]

Can I change my opinion?

Amare is like a corpse out there tonight. Doesn't even remotely care on D, doesn't set picks, and really seems like he doesn't care in general

While Bosh leads his team to a win over ATL...

[rsavaj]

Amare is just so passive sometimes. He wants to be a star, but he doesn't do all the other things stars do, let alone set himself up for offensive opportunities. Why wasn't he crashing the glass tonight? Why wasn't he calling out his teammates? Why did he look like he honestly didn't give a crap?