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Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule

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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#41 » by rsavaj » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:31 pm

Classick wrote:The Lakers would be barely over .500 on the Suns schedule. Fact.


Eh....I think it's pretty clear that they're the best team in the league right now.
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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#42 » by impulsenine » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:51 pm

WOX_69 wrote:You're asking the impossible, because the league does not know what the teams records are going to be before the season starts.


It's got nothing to do with the teams' records; it's keeping the number of b2b games that are on the road within an order of magnitude).

Also, I don't know the numbers, but no team should ever have a late-night game on the 1st night of a b2b. That's just cruel.

This is frustrating to me as a fan because it's much, much more difficult to judge the teams' play - the Lakers included. I know the Lakers are favored again this year, but I really wonder how much farther ahead of the pack they are (if at all), especially since LA's greatest weakness is its bench, which isn't tested as much at home with only 5 b2b road games.
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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#43 » by Christine-In-AZ » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:07 pm

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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#44 » by Classick » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:09 pm

rsavaj wrote:
Classick wrote:The Lakers would be barely over .500 on the Suns schedule. Fact.


Eh....I think it's pretty clear that they're the best team in the league right now.


I don't see how people can say that considering they have yet to beat a contender. They got humiliated by the Nuggets in the only challenging B2B they played, and they lost to both the Mavs/Rockets at home.

The Cavs and Celtics are by far better teams. The Lakers' record really isn't impressive when you look at their schedule.
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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#45 » by WOX_69 » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:09 pm

rsavaj wrote:There's no excuse as to why LA is much better than us. That much is simply a fact. They own us at every position except for PG. We're just ticked that compared to other teams(not just LA, but Dallas and CLE included), our b2b schedule seems completely ridiculous.

But yeah, on your "keep it civil" point, I agree. No need for name-calling and the like.
That much I could understand, but remember, you have to endure the NBA season to make it to the playoffs, and you have to endure the playoffs to be champion. At times it might not be easy or fair, you have to step up.
impulsenine wrote:It's got nothing to do with the teams' records; it's keeping the number of b2b games that are on the road within an order of magnitude).

Also, I don't know the numbers, but no team should ever have a late-night game on the 1st night of a b2b. That's just cruel.

This is frustrating to me as a fan because it's much, much more difficult to judge the teams' play - the Lakers included. I know the Lakers are favored again this year, but I really wonder how much farther ahead of the pack they are (if at all), especially since LA's greatest weakness is its bench, which isn't tested as much at home with only 5 b2b road games.
Again, it's hard within the scope of trying to schedule forty-one games for a team at its home venue (Two teams which share the same venue at that) to keep everything even, given that you have to account for all other events that go on. Unless each team had a solely designation arena for basketball to play in, then what's being asked for is almost impossible given how long the NBA season is.
Qwigglez wrote:I'm sure if you had the Suns back to back schedule you'd realize how lucky other teams got it.
Honest to God, I expect no less of my team than a victory every night, no matter what the circumstance. No matter how many fouls are called against us, no matter if we're on the road, no matter if it's a back to back, someone's injured, etc., I know what my team is capable of, and when they do not deliver then that is a failure on their part, and no one elses. If you show up, you have a chance to win, no exception.
Classick wrote:The Lakers would be barely over .500 on the Suns schedule. Fact.
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Post#46 » by Mr. Sun » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:18 pm

rsavaj wrote:There's no excuse as to why LA is much better than us. That much is simply a fact.

There is another simple fact, too: If they found a better PG than Nash they would simply sign someone who is retired to a one year contract and trade for them. The league would happily approve the trade.
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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#47 » by rsavaj » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:56 pm

Mr. Sun wrote:
rsavaj wrote:There's no excuse as to why LA is much better than us. That much is simply a fact.

There is another simple fact, too: If they found a better PG than Nash they would simply sign someone who is retired to a one year contract and trade for them. The league would happily approve the trade.


Good thing that Paul is okay in NOH and Utah's never trading Deron then eh?
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Post#48 » by hunterxaz » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:38 am

Nash is the #1 PG in the league.
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Re: Comparing Suns vs. Lakers Schedule 

Post#49 » by Never Fear 33 Is Here » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:04 am

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Never Fear 33 Is Here wrote:If you can't understand after reading these two quotes then you have a learning/comprehension problem.

Have a nice day.
You're asking the impossible, because the league does not know what the teams records are going to be before the season starts. With that, to try to make some sort of program would almost be impossible because you have to account for all the venues and all their other events besides basketball games. You're looking for an excuse, when really, there is none.


The team records that I quoted were last seasons team records not this seasons. ;) But anyways, I agree with you, I am not one of the people that get wrapped up in this schedule and that schedule rubbish as I do believe it all evens itself out in the end, to as much as it can be anyways. Whether or not it is good to get the "hard" games/stretches out the way early or to have them in the latter part of the season is definitely a debate that could be had. Personally I would prefer to get the hard part out the way early.

What you seem to be not recognising is the fact that your schedule to date has been an easy one compared to ours in terms of travel and how ridiculously hard our December is. I also agree with you that there is a lot of "blame shifting" within the Suns fan base. It gets old and I don't bring it up much/ever, but in this point there is definitely credit to it. As for why Phoenix/Lakers, probably jealousy. You guys are the current World Champions and are also in our division, so it is inevitable, but as someone else pointed out, there are a few other teams that it could also be brought up against.
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