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Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13)

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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#121 » by Miklo » Sat Jan 9, 2010 7:33 am

sunsfever68 wrote:Can I just say Michael Beasley is annoying as hell though. Like really. Guy's a punk


Yeah I really came away from this game feeling like that too. He's a nut job too, right up there with Delonte.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#122 » by garrick » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:19 am

It could have gone the Suns way had some things gone in our favor, Nash's ill advised three and J Rich's shot were big mistakes. As far as Amare's "foul" I've seen teams pretty do a lot of holding and grabbing because they know the refs hate to call the foul so I'm not too upset about that.
All in all it was a close game against a good team in the East which we let slip away.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#123 » by albasuna » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:39 am

I don't understand you Suns fans, you feel as if every game is the end of the world and that the Suns are meant to win every single game they play in. You guys must really love being disappointed and angry. Oh and you must also really love pointing fingers and blaming others.

I don't know if you guys remembered but Steve Kerr did not build this team to win a championship, he wants the team to be competitive, rake in the money and be cheap to maintain. If you guys are looking to win a championship or a .700 team you're in for another 4 months of depression.

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If anything they should change the rotation, Nash should be sitting out with 3 minutes left in the first quarter and coming back in earlier in the second. I dunno what Gentry is trying to do with playing Nash the only first quarter but it doesn't really work IMO. Also it'd be nice if they started to limit Hills playing time so that Dudley can start playing 20+ minutes.


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The talk about Nash not being clutch? what are you guys smoking. I'd let Nash shoot that three all day long.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#124 » by MVP-3 » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:17 pm

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sunsfever68 wrote:Can I just say Michael Beasley is annoying as hell though. Like really. Guy's a punk


Yeah I really came away from this game feeling like that too. He's a nut job too, right up there with Delonte.



Can I ask what is wrong with Michael. He actually is a very normal induvidual. People give him a bad rep because he went to Rehab for weed? I bet you a lot of NBA players smoke it. Plus he is a funny guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Iyq_oQmkQ . Anyways He isn't a nut job and I don't understand what would make anyone believe that. Anyways good game though.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#125 » by KopLegend » Sat Jan 9, 2010 2:51 pm

albasuna wrote:I don't understand you Suns fans, you feel as if every game is the end of the world and that the Suns are meant to win every single game they play in. You guys must really love being disappointed and angry. Oh and you must also really love pointing fingers and blaming others.

Because we know how well our suns team can play. We're just inconsistent as hell and that pisses everyone off.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#126 » by Qwigglez » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:15 pm

albasuna wrote:I don't understand you Suns fans, you feel as if every game is the end of the world and that the Suns are meant to win every single game they play in. You guys must really love being disappointed and angry. Oh and you must also really love pointing fingers and blaming others.

I don't know if you guys remembered but Steve Kerr did not build this team to win a championship, he wants the team to be competitive, rake in the money and be cheap to maintain. If you guys are looking to win a championship or a .700 team you're in for another 4 months of depression.

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If anything they should change the rotation, Nash should be sitting out with 3 minutes left in the first quarter and coming back in earlier in the second. I dunno what Gentry is trying to do with playing Nash the only first quarter but it doesn't really work IMO. Also it'd be nice if they started to limit Hills playing time so that Dudley can start playing 20+ minutes.


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The talk about Nash not being clutch? what are you guys smoking. I'd let Nash shoot that three all day long.


Its not the fact that the Suns lost that pisses me off. Its the way the Suns lost. It would be one thing if the Suns lost to a team that was better than them, but when you are up by double digits on your homecourt I expect a blowout. Teams usually try two or three times to trim a lead down before they give up, and well, the Heat took one stab at the Suns big lead and cracked it on the first go around. It shows a lack of self discipline by the team, and quite frankly I'm sick of seeing it all too often.
It doesn't bother me that Nash shoots the three and misses it. Some go in, and some don't.
On the positive side, Amare is really stepping his game up. He looks like he wants to become a leader now.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#127 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Jan 9, 2010 10:05 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Just remember. We are suppose to be this good :)

I mean, we don't have to win every game do we? If we aren't gonna win a championship, no big deal! Let's go play soccer

Dragic is a much better ball handler than LB. LB's an ADD kid on speed all the time with tunnel vision where he only sees the hoop. Not his teammates, or the 4 defenders that know he won't pass out of a quadruple team, just the hoop


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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#128 » by Miklo » Sat Jan 9, 2010 10:25 pm

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Miklo wrote:
sunsfever68 wrote:Can I just say Michael Beasley is annoying as hell though. Like really. Guy's a punk


Yeah I really came away from this game feeling like that too. He's a nut job too, right up there with Delonte.



Can I ask what is wrong with Michael. He actually is a very normal induvidual. People give him a bad rep because he went to Rehab for weed? I bet you a lot of NBA players smoke it. Plus he is a funny guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Iyq_oQmkQ . Anyways He isn't a nut job and I don't understand what would make anyone believe that. Anyways good game though.


Sure he went to rehab for weed but there was also the crazy suicidal spin he went on. Plus his demeanor is a little off; in much the same way as Delonte - sort of like a manic confidence/wildness that would not shock me if Beasley was bipolar as well.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#129 » by hunterxaz » Sat Jan 9, 2010 11:06 pm

This is a hard loss to take. :(
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#130 » by Calvin Klein » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:08 am

albasuna wrote:I

The talk about Nash not being clutch? what are you guys smoking. I'd let Nash shoot that three all day long.



Absolutely.

The rushed three was the one shot he didn't have to take. Specially so early. The last one was perfectly excecuted. It just didn't fall.

And of course that JRich "jumper". Awful.
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Post#131 » by albasuna » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:03 am

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Its not the fact that the Suns lost that pisses me off. Its the way the Suns lost. It would be one thing if the Suns lost to a team that was better than them, but when you are up by double digits on your homecourt I expect a blowout. Teams usually try two or three times to trim a lead down before they give up, and well, the Heat took one stab at the Suns big lead and cracked it on the first go around. It shows a lack of self discipline by the team, and quite frankly I'm sick of seeing it all too often.
It doesn't bother me that Nash shoots the three and misses it. Some go in, and some don't.
On the positive side, Amare is really stepping his game up. He looks like he wants to become a leader now.



It's true, they are really inconsistent and always give up double digit leads.. this USED to bother me. But us Suns fans should be used to it, they've been doing it since Nash came to town, hell they've been doing it before Nash came to town. It's almost expected of them when they are up by 15+. The best way to maintain those leads is to have a dominant presences in the middle, someone you can rely who can score easy down low. The thing is Amare isn't reliable down low. It usually follows like this...

Suns go up 15
-Starting jacking up rushed contested shots early in the shot clock.
-Nash with multiple turnovers because of laziness from Nash and teammates waiting to be spoon fed.
-Let opponent score 2-3 easy layups because the suns don't want to play aggressive defense or foul sending them to the line instead.
-Suns down by 5 now...
-Isolation for Amare in the low block, followed up a forced shot by Amare and some sort of grunt to draw a whistle from the refs.

When you're up by 10+ it's not so much trying to blow the game wide open by scoring, it's more of trying to control the game, tempo (i don't mean running and gunning) and corral the opponent. But whatever I'm not a coach or anything so I may be wrong. That's why I just let all of that go, shake my head and move on.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#132 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:13 pm

albasuna wrote:The talk about Nash not being clutch? what are you guys smoking. I'd let Nash shoot that three all day long.

3 guys in the game I would not be mad at if they took a bad clutch 3 at the end of the game, Nash, Kobe and Dirk.

Considering Nash's 3PT % and his history of taking and making clutch 3's (maybe not buzzer beaters like Kobe but still clutch), I'd let Nash shoot the three 9 times out of 10 in a clutch situation. If he doesn't have it, he's smart enough to try draw the foul or pass off.

Calvin Klein wrote:Absolutely.

The rushed three was the one shot he didn't have to take. Specially so early. The last one was perfectly excecuted. It just didn't fall.

And of course that JRich "jumper". Awful.


In one of the recent games, I think it was against the Blazers, when Nash had the ball from the sidelines and LMA switched out to him in the waning seconds and instead of taking a quick 3, Nash tried to get a better 3 off by taking an extra dribble. But with LMA's length, the 3 was even better defended than if Nash had taken the quick 3. I think he had that game in mind and didn't want to make the same mistake again.
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Re: Game 37: Heat(17-16) @ Suns(23-13) 

Post#133 » by sunsfan13az » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:07 pm

Bad loss for sure hopefully the suns learn some things from this game to get ready for the playoff push, I really thought that late 3 by nash was going to go in lol was disapointed when it didn't just wasn't our night :(.

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