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Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads

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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#41 » by peltoff » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:04 am

The leaked first quarter gate receipts had the Suns up the creek. So does this mean Nash is no longer untouchable?
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#42 » by le crapaud » Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:05 am

Nash won't be dealt. He is the master piece of the team and you have to stick with the direction chosen in offseason. I guess Kerr learned from the past that trading in the middle of the season wasn't a very good thing to do. Yeah there are many issues, bench is no longer effective, some of the starters are dealing with inconsistencies games but guess what, a complete season is long and tough. Why do suns fans keep thinking they can expect a lot more that where the team stands? This is ridiculous, yeah i'm frustrated too sometimes but I'd sign for a short appearance in PO rather than repeat former season. I'm not saying we can't adress critics to Nash but we love our suns because of him and obviously which PG is playing way better than him actually?

I think Dragic-Barbosa combo isn't good at all for the moment so Steve has to be on the court more than he should but I hope it's just temporary.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#43 » by Frank Lee » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:05 pm

Without Nash, it would be extremely difficult to run SSOL


don't look now.... but we no longer practice this philosophy. It is long gone, and merely a catchy label once attached to this team that so many are reluctant to give up.

le crapaud wrote: I'm not saying we can't adress critics to Nash but we love our suns because of him


My love affair began way before DishMasta Nash arrived. Granted , he sells tickets, but then again, we have such a fickle fan base that attends the games anyways. I am disgusted with their lack of unruly behavior. Its much worse than the 70s-80s when the madhouse was dominated by bluehairs and the Desert City Six used to play live (believe it or not, a dixieland band set up in the arena)

If our despicable owner wasn't so cash flow challenged we might actually do something in trade land that had more of a lasting effect than just one to turn an immediate F-n profit.

le crapaud wrote:This is ridiculous, yeah i'm frustrated too sometimes but I'd sign for a short appearance in PO rather than repeat former season.


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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#44 » by dantian » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:56 pm

People will want to see Amare paired with Monta Ellis. :)
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#45 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:27 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
Without Nash, it would be extremely difficult to run SSOL


don't look now.... but we no longer practice this philosophy. It is long gone, and merely a catchy label once attached to this team that so many are reluctant to give up.


Our system is not an exact SSOL replica, but it is still based on the same principle to win games and this is score, and score a lot. So while it's not SSOL, it is still SSOL in principle.

That said, even though we aren't SSOL anymore, outside of D.Will, CP3 and Jennings, I don't think there's another PG who can run the system we have. We still rely heavily on our PG to set up everything since outside of Nash and Barbosa, there's no one else on our team that can get off their own shot.

Basically, what we have on the floor is not a winning team. It's a good-enough and exciting product that Sarver has put together to sell tickets and merchandise while giving our fans a "good show" and fooling them into thinking we are a successful team. Nash is like the clown at the circus and without the clown, the circus is just a fancy zoo and nobody will pay to see it.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#46 » by JohnVancouver » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:49 pm

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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#47 » by MaryvalesFinest » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:54 pm

dantian wrote:People will want to see Amare paired with Monta Ellis. :)


Now that would be fun to watch, I doubt they trade him with the way he's been playing though
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Post#48 » by rsavaj » Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:59 pm

Nando88 wrote:STEVE NASH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE


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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#49 » by jazzy_jeff » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:01 am

I listened to post-game interview on the radio broadcast, and was actually a little alarmed at how unconcerned Nash was about the blown lead and how casual he spoke of it. It was very surprising, but maybe (hopefully) calculated. He knows when to/when not to blast the team, and this wasn't the time.
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Post#50 » by tigerblood » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:07 am

I would trade him, but the elite teams are not really in need of PG help.
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Post#51 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:39 pm

bradley281 wrote:I would trade him, but the elite teams are not really in need of PG help.


The Lakers are ....

who else? Not anyone comes to mind

Toronto would be a much different team with Nash, it occurs to me.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#52 » by peltoff » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:20 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
bradley281 wrote:I would trade him, but the elite teams are not really in need of PG help.


The Lakers are ....

who else? Not anyone comes to mind

Toronto would be a much different team with Nash, it occurs to me.

Nash isn't the type of PG Jackson likes in his system.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#53 » by dantian » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:30 am

bradley281 wrote:I would trade him, but the elite teams are not really in need of PG help.


I'm sure NY would love to have him, and potentially Nelson at GS. He'd feel comfortable there. When Lebron comes on board in NY next year, he has 2 years chance to win a ring, provided he could live under the shadow of Lebron.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#54 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:04 pm

Right - the question was, which "elite" teams need a PG upgrade and the answer is, outside the Lakers, not any that spring to mind. Are there teams where nash woudl make a big difference?

New York seems obvious. I wouldn't wish GS on anyone - outside of Horry, Bowen, Sasha and Dhantay Jones.
Toronto, as I said, would be a much better team I believe.
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Re: Steve Nash doesn't care about losing 20 point leads 

Post#55 » by aIvin adams » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:26 pm

peltoff wrote:
JohnVancouver wrote:
bradley281 wrote:I would trade him, but the elite teams are not really in need of PG help.


The Lakers are ....

who else? Not anyone comes to mind

Toronto would be a much different team with Nash, it occurs to me.

Nash isn't the type of PG Jackson likes in his system.


absolutely any head coach in the league would be thrilled if he came to work one day and nash was waiting in the locker room.

not every coach needs his skills as much as the next, and so every team would be more or less inclined to give up certain assets in exchange for him.

but if phil jackson thought he could plug in nash for fisher w/out losing his starting lineup incl odom... he would crap his pants.
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