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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#41 » by JMac1 » Sun Apr 4, 2010 3:10 pm

Some of you said the right thing. He can't defend bigs, so what is the difference between him and Dudley? If he was a 3pt shooting big who could defend bigs, then he would be worth 4 Million. Bottomline is Amare. If we keep Amare, we let Frye go. If we let Amare go, we keep Frye so he can spread the floor for Nash and Lopez pick and roll.

I love Amare, but don't trust him (hard for me to say, but....) after he signs.

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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#42 » by le crapaud » Sun Apr 4, 2010 4:48 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I don't know why some of you guys are hating on Frye. Like it seems like he is the fall guy for anything bad that happens. He is getting 5 rebounds a game off the bench in 22 minutes. He spreads the floor pretty well and adds a whole new dynamic to the game because he is so different than Lopez.


True. He is one of the few good moves by Kerr. It seems logical to seek a long term deal with Frye because he contributes to the success of our team especially our bench production. There are a lot of areas in his game that can and should be worked like his defense but I'm fine with a 16M/4years contract. I think he surely deserves it.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#43 » by JohnVancouver » Sun Apr 4, 2010 8:22 pm

Frye is a nice piece for us, but we all have to admit he's one-dimensional - even though he has tried to man-up and be a better defender and rebounder, that's just not who he is. He's also a hot-and-cold shooter and when he's cold he's pretty much useless to us. So half the time he has no function. Add that to PHX being the place his game fits best, I don't see us giving him more than $3mil a year a couple of years.
Drawing some bodies out of the paint surely helps Amar'es game but Frye's not the only player who can do that.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#44 » by phx#7 » Sun Apr 4, 2010 8:48 pm

I can't believe people are so willing to give Frye 3-4mil per. If he just wants a longer contract with some pay raises fine. But thats all I'd do. I'd prefer Amundson to Frye if the Suns need to choose one.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#45 » by Miklo » Sun Apr 4, 2010 9:01 pm

Interesting, seems like the board is pretty evenly divided on this one.

I think Frye represents a decision we have to make about this franchise going forward. Do we go straight run n' gun? If so, Frye may be worth 3ish (though I'd still say 2-2.5 is market price) and an integral part of the rotation. On the other hand, do we want to add rebounding or post D to our repertoire? If so, I don't think Frye is worth what he would command on the open market. You can look for range out of your bigs but you want to see it in more of a Troy Murphy than a 1-dimensional Frye. Amar'e has range on him so if you just make sure to have a couple sharpshooters in the backcourt you don't need 3's out of your bigs. But as I said if you do want that range you simply cannot do it at the expense of being competitive in the paint.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#46 » by Mujahydeen » Sun Apr 4, 2010 9:04 pm

3 year deal for 9 mill, he's not worth anything more, let's see which team will spend more money on shooting big. Anthony Tolliver can shoot the three, and you can get him for minimum.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#47 » by Miklo » Sun Apr 4, 2010 9:30 pm

Mujahydeen wrote:3 year deal for 9 mill, he's not worth anything more, let's see which team will spend more money on shooting big. Anthony Tolliver can shoot the three, and you can get him for minimum.


This is a good point I don't think he'll go for min but I'd take Tolliver over Frye actually...he is better at defense AND rebounding, and while he doesn't hit as high of a % of 3's, I see this as a positive because this pushes us towards only relying on our big to hit 3's when he's wide open. Thus leading to our center actually being in the post for the majority of minutes.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#48 » by Blackification » Mon Apr 5, 2010 4:38 am

I wouldn't even worry about frye until we have amare resigned, if you don't resign amare don't even waste your time signing frye because with no amare his shots are not going to be as open. With a stepped up lopez, lou, and clark eating at his minutes to begin with he shouldn't be bargaining with the suns when he knows they have bigger financial decisions with amare and players that can step it up and fill in frye's spot. Amare is irreplaceable for what he does, frye? not so much. Especially if we rebuild and once nash goes frye is completely worthless he will suck without amare but without amare and nash lmao don't even bother dressing up.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#49 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Apr 5, 2010 4:47 am

Miklo wrote:
Mujahydeen wrote:3 year deal for 9 mill, he's not worth anything more, let's see which team will spend more money on shooting big. Anthony Tolliver can shoot the three, and you can get him for minimum.


This is a good point I don't think he'll go for min but I'd take Tolliver over Frye actually...he is better at defense AND rebounding, and while he doesn't hit as high of a % of 3's, I see this as a positive because this pushes us towards only relying on our big to hit 3's when he's wide open. Thus leading to our center actually being in the post for the majority of minutes.


I'd take Tolliver over Frye as well.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#50 » by dantian » Mon Apr 5, 2010 5:37 am

Blackification wrote:I wouldn't even worry about frye until we have amare resigned, if you don't resign amare don't even waste your time signing frye because with no amare his shots are not going to be as open. With a stepped up lopez, lou, and clark eating at his minutes to begin with he shouldn't be bargaining with the suns when he knows they have bigger financial decisions with amare and players that can step it up and fill in frye's spot. Amare is irreplaceable for what he does, frye? not so much. Especially if we rebuild and once nash goes frye is completely worthless he will suck without amare but without amare and nash lmao don't even bother dressing up.


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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#51 » by DBrimstone » Mon Apr 5, 2010 6:34 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Miklo wrote:
Mujahydeen wrote:3 year deal for 9 mill, he's not worth anything more, let's see which team will spend more money on shooting big. Anthony Tolliver can shoot the three, and you can get him for minimum.


This is a good point I don't think he'll go for min but I'd take Tolliver over Frye actually...he is better at defense AND rebounding, and while he doesn't hit as high of a % of 3's, I see this as a positive because this pushes us towards only relying on our big to hit 3's when he's wide open. Thus leading to our center actually being in the post for the majority of minutes.


I'd take Tolliver over Frye as well.

Not a bad idea at all. If all else fails, we just play Clark more, which I'd be plenty happy with. Especially if he polishes up his jump shot. A 16 foot jump shooting threat pulls bigs out too. Not as far, but it still serves it's purpose
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#52 » by ls2ws6 » Mon Apr 5, 2010 8:12 pm

Frye 4 yrs @ 12 million.

Im fine with this
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#53 » by the_warden » Mon Apr 5, 2010 9:23 pm

Blackification wrote:he shouldn't be bargaining with the suns when he knows they have bigger financial decisions with amare and players that can step it up and fill in frye's spot.


couldn't be more wrong. Of course he should be bargaining: he deserves to make more than he does. You can say he's replaceable and what not, but he'll make more than most of these estimates this season and, if you guys are any gauge, it won't be for the Suns.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#54 » by impulsenine » Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:39 pm

I hope Frye doesn't join the Nash Is A Career-Booster Club. I hate that.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#55 » by hunterxaz » Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:45 pm

If he leaves, I do. ;)
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#56 » by Frank Lee » Mon Apr 5, 2010 11:21 pm

hunterxaz wrote:If he leaves, I do. ;)


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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#57 » by hunterxaz » Mon Apr 5, 2010 11:56 pm

I meant, if he leaves the Suns, I hope he joins the Nash is a Career-Booster club. :)
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#58 » by Qwigglez » Tue Apr 6, 2010 12:11 am

I really don't see Frye being successful anywhere else. So I'd say he needs the Suns more than the Suns need him. I hope he stays... for the right price.
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Re: Frye wants a new deal 

Post#59 » by Mr. Sun » Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:34 am

The problem with Frye is that officials just hate his guts. He would get whistled for sitting at a funeral.

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