Coro Suns' reality Check Article

[nashill]

it is not working and it is not gonna work... TRADE TRADE TRADE

OR TANK.

[JasonDaPsycho]

And Amar'e went for 34 points and 14 rebounds, shooting over 50% from the field.
7 defensive boards...
7 F$%^ING DEFENSIVE BOARDS!!!!!!

Man I already miss him. He's really been showing us why NYK was willing to pay him 100 million dollars lately. I heard he even started contesting shot. Though still suck as a 1-on-1 post defensive player, he seemed to be a lot better on the help defense.

We on the other hand have Hedoesn't as our PF. WTF?
How long did it take us to realize going all wing players won't work? The moment of signing.
How long did it take Alvin to realize going all wing players won't work? After playing a quarter of a season.
You don't have the right to be cheap and be winning games unless your team is ran by Dell Demps, RC Buford or Sam Presti. It's such a shame to watch our arch nemesis willing to go over the cap to re-sign a player they feel can contribute while we for the first time stayed under the luxury tax region after making it to the WCF the previous season. Now they're having (well-deserved) wins and we're staying mediocre.

It's all just a f---ing business.

And at this point, if you're telling me we're trading Hedoesn't for Drew Gooden, I'll be more than satisfied. I'm that desperate.

[lilfishi22]

Hedo for Dali. As much as I like JT, if it gets rid of Hedo, I'd take back just Dali. But it would be nice if they threw him in.

Dudley works fine as the backup 2 so him and JChill would be a nice wings off the bench. EC should get more minutes now with Hedo gone and JChill playing less at the 4.

I will say this, I don't think Hedo should be blamed just because I want him moved. He's just the odd man out.

[NashtyNas]

Everyone's gotta quit with this Gasol pipedream. There's no way in hell Memphis isn't extending him; the clear choice is Gasol > Randolph, who's coming to the end of his peak looking for the last fat paycheck. They can always move Gasol to the PF later with Thabeet taking the C.

The real targets at PF are Brand, Smith, Thompson, Jamison and if we're hella lucky Love.

[Frank Lee]

good morning. i told it from the start that it is crap to acquirre average potential for so much money.
we have nothing. i repeat nothing going under the basket. no inside play so our outside shooting is what we rely on. thats what you get when you hire an agent in your fo. of course he will give large money to his former clients.

Yeah, I usually start my day with a good dump too. At least you do not suffer from irregularity, though you could stand to lay off the fiber.

[lilfishi22]

Everyone's gotta quit with this Gasol pipedream. There's no way in hell Memphis isn't extending him; the clear choice is Gasol > Randolph, who's coming to the end of his peak looking for the last fat paycheck. They can always move Gasol to the PF later with Thabeet taking the C.

The real targets at PF are Brand, Smith, Thompson, Jamison and if we're hella lucky Love.

ehh

Brand is a better fit than Hedo on our team but his behemoth of a contract really does take us in the wrong direction going into the future.

[DRK]

I want Earl Clark in the rotation. It pains me to see our best perimeter defender getting DNP's after DNP's.

[RunDogGun]

I want Earl Clark in the rotation. It pains me to see our best perimeter defender getting DNP's after DNP's.

After he did a decent job on Granger, it was surprising to not see him tried on Gay. Why the heck did Gentry gas out our older guys in the Portland game (and lose), and not try other weapons in our arsenal? When we play these young teams, we will continue to struggle unless we play our young guys more. Why is that so hard for Gentry to figure out?

[JMac1]

I want Earl Clark in the rotation. It pains me to see our best perimeter defender getting DNP's after DNP's.

After he did a decent job on Granger, it was surprising to not see him tried on Gay. Why the heck did Gentry gas out our older guys in the Portland game (and lose), and not try other weapons in our arsenal? When we play these young teams, we will continue to struggle unless we play our young guys more. Why is that so hard for Gentry to figure out?

Double

I was wondering the same the, especially at the end of regulation. Hey Rudy, try shooting over a 6'10 athlete!! Oops, you will just make it over air!!


Trade Nash and Jrich for a young stud PF and or picks. If we are going to lose, I would love to lose with the young guys instead of the old. We are delaying the inevitable; eventually Nash and Hill will be gone.

[JohnVancouver]

I want Earl Clark in the rotation. It pains me to see our best perimeter defender getting DNP's after DNP's.

I say start him

Clark/Hakim/Lawal as our 4's

Barron/Frye/Clark/JRich/Nash


Let him get used to playing with nash - he'd be the only PNR option but I still have hopes barron will settle down. I think a lot of his troubles with gimmes are just nerves. He's still overexcited out there

It's time to stop attempting to work things out so all deserving players get minutes - find two units that work well and stick with them

[RaisingArizona]

Yeah no clue Clark has never been given a chance. In short minutes this year he's looked okay. He has way more potential than Barron/Siller.

[DRK]

I want Earl Clark in the rotation. It pains me to see our best perimeter defender getting DNP's after DNP's.

I say start him

Clark/Hakim/Lawal as our 4's

Barron/Frye/Clark/JRich/Nash


Let him get used to playing with nash - he'd be the only PNR option but I still have hopes barron will settle down. I think a lot of his troubles with gimmes are just nerves. He's still overexcited out there

It's time to stop attempting to work things out so all deserving players get minutes - find two units that work well and stick with them

Where does that leave Grant?

I instead of playing Barron at PF, give Clark the start at PF. He is longer, more athletic and has higher potential. Like you said, he also would benefit by playing next to Nash.

Frye/Clark/Hill/J-RIch/Nash

Warrick (Eeekkk!)/Hedo/Childress/Dudley/Dragic

But fantasy aside, I think it will be hard for Clark to get time even of we do the Kings trade. It is more realistic that Clark will be in the rotation next season.

[thamadkant]

And Amar'e went for 34 points and 14 rebounds, shooting over 50% from the field.
7 defensive boards...
7 F$%^ING DEFENSIVE BOARDS!!!!!!

Man I already miss him. He's really been showing us why NYK was willing to pay him 100 million dollars lately. I heard he even started contesting shot. Though still suck as a 1-on-1 post defensive player, he seemed to be a lot better on the help defense.

We on the other hand have Hedoesn't as our PF. WTF?
How long did it take us to realize going all wing players won't work? The moment of signing.
How long did it take Alvin to realize going all wing players won't work? After playing a quarter of a season.
You don't have the right to be cheap and be winning games unless your team is ran by Dell Demps, RC Buford or Sam Presti. It's such a shame to watch our arch nemesis willing to go over the cap to re-sign a player they feel can contribute while we for the first time stayed under the luxury tax region after making it to the WCF the previous season. Now they're having (well-deserved) wins and we're staying mediocre.

It's all just a f---ing business.

And at this point, if you're telling me we're trading Hedoesn't for Drew Gooden, I'll be more than satisfied. I'm that desperate.

Everyone knows Stoudemire is worth 15-16 Million for the next 2 seasons.... its about the seasons after that that worried the Suns and the Knicks took a gamble on.

[JohnVancouver]

I say start him

Clark/Hakim/Lawal as our 4's

Barron/Frye/Clark/JRich/Nash


Let him get used to playing with nash - he'd be the only PNR option but I still have hopes barron will settle down. I think a lot of his troubles with gimmes are just nerves. He's still overexcited out there

It's time to stop attempting to work things out so all deserving players get minutes - find two units that work well and stick with them

Where does that leave Grant?

I instead of playing Barron at PF, give Clark the start at PF. He is longer, more athletic and has higher potential. Like you said, he also would benefit by playing next to Nash.

Frye/Clark/Hill/J-RIch/Nash

Warrick (Eeekkk!)/Hedo/Childress/Dudley/Dragic

But fantasy aside, I think it will be hard for Clark to get time even of we do the Kings trade. It is more realistic that Clark will be in the rotation next season.

---- I say we move Grant to the 2nd unit and let him warm up in the game - maybe if we have a set time to insert the Other Guys, he can bike or the trainers can come up with something for him to do to warm up.

Other Guys - C-Warrick/F- Hedo -Hill - Duds - Dragic

leaves out Chilly and Lawal (and Siler, who is at least a year away from real minutes except in emergencies)

This roster is a nightmare

[DRK]

Wow you really managed to mess up the quotes didnt you? Got a bit confusing for me. Not to worry though.

I would still start Grant and if he's not firing after 5 minutes, take him out. He's still got his start.

I think if we limit Grant and Steve's minutes to about 25-30 a night, we will have enough for everyone.

It's true that this roster is a nightmare. Luckily, I doubt we'll stay pat for too long. Something has to down down soon.

[JasonDaPsycho]

And Amar'e went for 34 points and 14 rebounds, shooting over 50% from the field.
7 defensive boards...
7 F$%^ING DEFENSIVE BOARDS!!!!!!

Man I already miss him. He's really been showing us why NYK was willing to pay him 100 million dollars lately. I heard he even started contesting shot. Though still suck as a 1-on-1 post defensive player, he seemed to be a lot better on the help defense.

We on the other hand have Hedoesn't as our PF. WTF?
How long did it take us to realize going all wing players won't work? The moment of signing.
How long did it take Alvin to realize going all wing players won't work? After playing a quarter of a season.
You don't have the right to be cheap and be winning games unless your team is ran by Dell Demps, RC Buford or Sam Presti. It's such a shame to watch our arch nemesis willing to go over the cap to re-sign a player they feel can contribute while we for the first time stayed under the luxury tax region after making it to the WCF the previous season. Now they're having (well-deserved) wins and we're staying mediocre.

It's all just a f---ing business.

And at this point, if you're telling me we're trading Hedoesn't for Drew Gooden, I'll be more than satisfied. I'm that desperate.

Everyone knows Stoudemire is worth 15-16 Million for the next 2 seasons.... its about the seasons after that that worried the Suns and the Knicks took a gamble on.

*looks at Hedo*
Can it get any worse?

[JasonDaPsycho]

Wow you really managed to mess up the quotes didnt you? Got a bit confusing for me. Not to worry though.

I would still start Grant and if he's not firing after 5 minutes, take him out. He's still got his start.

I think if we limit Grant and Steve's minutes to about 25-30 a night, we will have enough for everyone.

It's true that this roster is a nightmare. Luckily, I doubt we'll stay pat for too long. Something has to down down soon.

Remember last summer when we all thought we're going for David Lee. (HEY STEVE NASH IMPLIED THAT HE WANTS TO WIN, THE FO HAS TO REACH OUT TO A LEGIT PF)
And BAM!! We got Hedo.

Like I said on Channing's facebook page:
Life as a Suns fan - knowing that the hiker has the skills to climb over the mountain but the sponsors weren't giving him/her legit equipments to do so because those equipments cost a lot.