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[Game 43] - SUNS @ SIXERS - POLL ADDED

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Well, who can we pin this one on

VC 1/6 FG, +/- of -10, no other contributions
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Gortat/Lopez 8 PTS, 7 REBS, 4/10 FGs combined, Lopez -2, Gortat -14
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Gentry - rotation issues
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Can't pin it on one person, just nobody really stepped up
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Post#201 » by NiGhtWiSh » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:49 am

Stats are NOT the most important things in life. Yeah, they helps a lot. But in same time they give bad wiev. I can easily list a dozen of NBA players with very good stats, but in same moment, being crap. With Nash, it's about making the team better and winning. Nash still can play a great game. But, most of season, he will play like vs DET or 76ers. Being outplayed by younger guards.

Suns are not familiar in playing without Nash. Nash=Suns movin' on. When Nash plays **** - and yeah, he plays **** in at least half of games - Suns are going down.

That's, in short words, why i say "Nash is mediocre" when he plays for +15 ppg +10 ppg season. He's done. Over. WTF are Will Bynum, Lou Williams, and all the other guards? Marvin Harriss? WOW. Yeah, Nash is great at 37...

All I can say is to limit Nash's and Hill's minutes to max. 20/game and start teach the team HOW TO SCORE without Nash's pass. All the world knows now, that it's easy to double Nash, push on the ball, and Suns are done...

Sad but true...

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Post#202 » by Nando88 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:12 am

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Post#203 » by Calvin Klein » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:01 pm

I just wish we could see Dragic, Dudley, Chilly, Lopez and Gortat out here instead of giving so many minutes to Vince Carter or Frye (when he is sucking). We should take positive something out of losing.
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Post#204 » by visions » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:09 pm

+1 to all the Carter is lazy talk.

That was an awesome dunk when he went baseline early in the game. WTF doesn't he do that stuff all the time. Even though he's older now, the guy is still more than athletic enough to get to the basket at will and yet he'd rather shoot bad fadeaway j's or 3's.

+1 to benching him too. Start anyone else at the SG but Carter.
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Post#205 » by BurningHeart » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:09 pm

We just need to run. Run run run run run. Bottom line. Forget it if we don't even have the pieces to anymore. This slowdown crap doesn't work for us. We can't get by not scoring 100 a game. Scoring 74 against the **** Pistons? 95 against the Sixers? Unacceptable.
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Post#206 » by DRK » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:36 pm

SSOL wrote:Sundamental, want to put a little wager on whether Nash is traded before deadline?


I'm up for a sig/avy bet if you want.

Nash will NOT be traded by the deadline.
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Post#207 » by DRK » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:08 pm

BurningHeart wrote:We just need to run. Run run run run run. Bottom line. Forget it if we don't even have the pieces to anymore. This slowdown crap doesn't work for us. We can't get by not scoring 100 a game. Scoring 74 against the **** Pistons? 95 against the Sixers? Unacceptable.


Reminds me of the Terry Porter era, where we purposely slowed down our game to play better defence. It didnt work. Now, we are doing the same thing, and it isn't working again.

Gentry needs to go back to a fast-paced offence, with lots of three point attempts, and good floor spacing. We've tried to make this team play slow before, and it failed miserably.
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Post#208 » by NiGhtWiSh » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:49 pm

Where do You, guys, want to come back? Nash, Hill, Carter - they will NOT be any younger. They will NOT play better any more. They are older and older, they play every game worse. It's a nature. It's about aging. Even so great medical staff like Suns have can't do such miracles any more.

Team needs changes. Now. Before it's too late. Suns have to completly change, mentally, physically, and for sure - change roster. First changes must be done immediatly. Bah, we've made a first step with first trade. It's dangerous to stay on a half way. When you say A, you have to say B. This season is just for say goodbye to Nash and the Suns that we know in last years. It's over. OVER. That's what i think.

OK. I can imagine that FO will force Suns to play r'n'g to the end of the season with current roster. For me, no problem. Let's enjoy. But don't have a high expectations. 40-45 wins, that's max. With some great to watch games and some tragicomedies like DET, PHI or SAC, NYK. Open your eyes, please... Suns are AGING. And the league is too fresh, to powerfull, too quick for them. Far, far away.
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Post#209 » by GoSixersBro » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:00 pm

Despite a rather lopsided game last night, I had to come and comment on how impressive Nash still is. As a Sixers fan I only get to see him twice a season really and I was happy to see he's still an effective playmaker. He must have hit a 30 foot shot three-pointer last night that completely dropped my jaw. The Suns can be a fun team to watch so I wish you guys the best for the second half of the season.
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Post#210 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:05 pm

Da_Reel_Kboy wrote:Reminds me of the Terry Porter era, where we purposely slowed down our game to play better defence. It didnt work. Now, we are doing the same thing, and it isn't working again.

Gentry needs to go back to a fast-paced offence, with lots of three point attempts, and good floor spacing. We've tried to make this team play slow before, and it failed miserably.


Yep. Last year's defense was fueled by effort on the offense end. Guys got comfortable with the offense and that allowed them to make adjustments easier on defense.
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Post#211 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:23 pm

didn't get to watch the game, but wtf at the "Nash in decline" talk? Even the media gave this crap up. So, I can't blame it on them for people pulling stupid statements out of their ass.
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Post#212 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:44 am

BurningHeart wrote:lol @ Nash being mediocre. The fact that he's doing anywhere NEAR what he usually does with a team that barely has the necessary pieces around him to fit his game.......is a testament to how great he is.


I think it's the Anchor Effect - the players around him are dragging him down with them.
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Post#213 » by Sundamental » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:09 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:lol @ Nash being mediocre. The fact that he's doing anywhere NEAR what he usually does with a team that barely has the necessary pieces around him to fit his game.......is a testament to how great he is.


I think it's the Anchor Effect - the players around him are dragging him down with them.


Just for the record, there was only one person on here calling Nash mediocre and it wasn't me, although I did start the stuff about the Nash era is over. I still think he may(?) be the best point guard in the NBA. And even though I now think the Suns will trade him, it will be the biggest mistake this organization has ever made. Abyss isn't deep enough to describe the depths this team will fall to if Nash is traded.
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Post#214 » by JohnVancouver » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:41 am

NiGhtWiSh wrote:Where do You, guys, want to come back? Nash, Hill, Carter - they will NOT be any younger. They will NOT play better any more. They are older and older, they play every game worse



Yeah, the problem is Nash and Hill, certainly. Thanks for clearing that up for us
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Post#215 » by rsavaj » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:52 am

I don't think this team would win 10 more games after Nash was traded.
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Post#216 » by Sundamental » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:21 am

rsavaj wrote:I don't think this team would win 10 more games after Nash was traded.


I couldn't agree more but I think it's going to happen. This FO is beyond stupid.
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Post#217 » by nashchill » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:36 am

Vince, quite frankly, would be better off stay on the bench and not play at all. At least then, he can sell some damn jerseys.

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