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Are the Suns done?

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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#101 » by ray ray » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:41 am

Frank Lee wrote:The chemistry comes from Nash's ego-less attitude. He leads by example. His conduct reeks with professionalism and dedication. He is a diplomat and locker room statesman to the 9th degree and his #1 ambassador is Hill.

Look at this team now. It is loaded with selfless 'team' first players. Childress barely played last yr but did you hear him squawk ? Where as Barbasoso saw his minutes cut into, and pouted his way to Toronto. Marion cried himself to Miami. Stat stuck his finger in the eyes of the whole team with his me-first off season shennanigans... Joe Johnson got butthurt with his contract negotitations then was rewarded with an obnoxious deal, twice... go figure.

I'll take this crew and their attitude any day over most of the primas and donnas littered throughout the league. Sure they are a long shot to contend, but they sure are easy to support. Perhaps a few doubters ought to research the original 'Sun'derellas before they toss in the season's towell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UF1ggq0vd4[/youtube]


I want the Suns to win a title for Sooo many reasons. But mostly, I want them to win one for Al Mcoy! He's been very loyal to the Suns.

Doom or gloom or not, I love the Suns and will continue to follow and support then thru thick and thin.


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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#102 » by Sundamental » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:49 am

RunDogGun wrote:Mr Mental, I made a comment about part of your post. I did not narrow or make a summation about what you wrote, you made a poor comprehension about what I wrote. I said nothing about how a coach would implement chemistry, so why would you attack a point I never made. After getting rid of both Marion and LB, I find it hard to go backwards, but maybe that would be best left to person that didn't learn from their mistakes. How many chips did we win with the SSOL teams? A team where the sum is greater than its parts will win more chips.

You then made a comment trying to discredit what I wrote, but I made no comments that would imply that I felt that way, nor thought that way. So don't throw stones and then cry when people throw them back. By the way, how long have you been watching the Suns? :D Quit being such a big baby.



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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#103 » by Frank Lee » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:09 am

As 'actin'g commissioner I forbid that deal
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Post#104 » by BurningHeart » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:50 am

RunDogGun wrote:
BurningHeart wrote:We don't need a defense so much as we need a guy or two to rebound the ball after our misses and prevent your team from getting second chances. Why? Because if the team is properly constructed, I trust my team to outscore your team 100% of the time.

Defense wasn't the problem in 04-08, rebounding was. Rebounding was better in 1993 (Barkley) with a very similar offensive performance but we lost to Jordan in six. Who wasn't gonna lose to Jordan?

It's all about rebounding. And sometimes **** is circumstantial.


And that is why Lou was such a huge asset. It wasn't the numbers he put up, it was the extra possessions he added. I think Chill can be that guy. Whether he can inspire a team to give the amount of hustle that he does, like Lou did, is another question. But I sure hope so.


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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#105 » by RunDogGun » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:10 am

Sundamental wrote:

I pity your students. Let's just agree to not comment on each others posts. Deal?


Was that the classic "tag you're it, no tag backs"? :lol: And you wonder why you are called a child. :roll: Dude either step up to the argument, or step down. Don't ignore it, and then try and rip me again, with another lame poorly researched comment.

Why can't you answer the question? How long have you been watching the Suns? It isn't a trick question. "Come on Claire, answer the question."
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#106 » by RunDogGun » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:16 am

Frank Lee wrote:As 'actin'g commissioner I forbid that deal


Don't worry Frank, I don't deal with children. I tell them how to do things, and they can either listen to me and move on, or they can pay some college professor to tell them the same thing.

As for your comments about the team, you are spot on. The idea you are speaking of was shown again in Denver last year, after they traded Melo. They were just missing those leaders like Nash and Hill.
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#107 » by Frank Lee » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:22 am

[quote="ray ray"]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UF1ggq0vd4[/youtube]

I want the Suns to win a title for Sooo many reasons. But mostly, I want them to win one for Al Mcoy! He's been very loyal to the Suns.

Doom or gloom or not, I love the Suns and will continue to follow and support then thru thick and thin.


Go Suns and Go Birdgang [quote]


"I gotta take a breather. Garfield Heard... made the basket. I wanna tell you something, somebody up there is on our side'

Like yesterday, man.

Yes Al McCoy is the 'True face of the organization'. I hope he can give us a few more yrs, though he has given enough. We should have an AL appreciation thread with great past calls, moments, sayings and nicknames.... stickied.

I doubt there is one hooper here who hasnt spouted a 'Twine Time' or 'zing go the strings' on the court.
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#108 » by RunDogGun » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:38 pm

"EeeeeeeJaaaaay from KaaaayJaaaay", Al McCoy. Actually, because the Clips announcer Lawler(sp) sounds a bit like Al, is the main reason I like watching their games.
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#109 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:17 pm

RunDogGun wrote:"EeeeeeeJaaaaay from KaaaayJaaaay", Al McCoy. Actually, because the Clips announcer Lawler(sp) sounds a bit like Al, is the main reason I like watching their games.


I used to get the Clips on KTLA but no more - what channel they on now?
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#110 » by RunDogGun » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:38 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:"EeeeeeeJaaaaay from KaaaayJaaaay", Al McCoy. Actually, because the Clips announcer Lawler(sp) sounds a bit like Al, is the main reason I like watching their games.


I used to get the Clips on KTLA but no more - what channel they on now?


Not sure yet, but I live in LA County.
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#111 » by BurningHeart » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:14 am

Clips games are usually on the Fox Sports Channel and sometimes on KCAL
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#112 » by JohnVancouver » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:53 am

BurningHeart wrote:Clips games are usually on the Fox Sports Channel and sometimes on KCAL


Thanks - I was watching them and Raps constantly BLP (Before League Pass)
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#113 » by Frank Lee » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:50 pm

F league pass. I watch all my sports via the mighty internet, with reasonable clarity. The site I go to has been very reliable this whole football season, both college and pro. Every game. NBA, NFL, WMFW its all there. God bless Al Gore.
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#114 » by Beas4pres » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:17 pm

Can we sign Kris Humphries for a season?

upgrade from Warrick.

Then we just Amnesty Warrick

i wouldnt mind seeing this as a lineup


NASH
BROWN
HILL
HUMPHRIES
GORTAT

bench

PRICE/TELFAIR
DUDLEY
CHILDRESS
MORRIS
FRYE
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#115 » by Frank Lee » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:55 pm

Do you ever read what others post here ? :noway:
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Re: Are the Suns done? 

Post#116 » by Revived » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:17 am

bigfoot wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:With CP3 likely going to one of the LA teams, D-12 and D-Will teaming up in Brooklyn, WHAT THE HELL ARE SAVING CAP SPACE FOR?

Westbrook likely is to stay in OKC as their FO is very willing to give him a huge contract.

http://newsok.com/thunder-russell-westb ... le/3630149

Who does that leave us with? Just Kevin Love who might pick Golden State over us because of their improved defense and their need for an upgrade at PF. They can definitely afford Love if they amnesty Lee and trade Ellis or something.

The whole "we're saving up for next summer" is just bull crap that the Phoenix FO is trying to get us to believe in so that we won't be pissed off at Sarver during the whole season. Their just trying to save $$ for business reasons, not for basketball reasons.


You thought this was such an enlightening thought you had to post it twice ? I'm going to add Moron to the list of may be's for you. Really dude, your crying is based on assumptions, and you ignore the stated plan to at least be in the position to improve through free agency next yr. You cant control what others do.


Frank I'll see if I can cheer sf88 up. Even in the unlikely event we do not sign a single all-star type free agent next year there is a fallback position with lots of cap space. That position is to take on crappy contracts for 1st round draft picks or take on large contracts of other teams so they can get under the luxury tax. When you take on contracts as mentioned you demand first round picks. Think Kurt Thomas, Baron Davis, and more recently Lamar Odom. It will probably take at least three-to-four years of rebuilding through draft picks so I hope we can get the right free agents over the next two years.

If that is the plan, then why not just trade Nash & Hill away right now itself and get draft picks in the 2012 draft?

That will also allow our young players (Brown, Dudley, Gortat, Morris) to develop without Steve being on the team because we all know in the long run, Steve won't be there to help them.

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