Why I'm not ready to give up on this season

[Wannabe MEP]

In the 2010 playoffs, Dragic-Barbosa-Dudley-Lou-Frye outscored lineups that included Bynum 70-37. (In every case it was against at least 3 of the Lakers' core 6 players: starters + Odom).

[Wannabe MEP]

draftexpress numbers say that Frye has a lane agility of 11.60, and average for top power forwards is 11.57, while average for top centers is 12.09.

Meanwhile, Lou has a lane agility of 10.58. Think about the difference that kind of quickness makes, especially when he hustles like crazy.

[RunDogGun]

draftexpress numbers say that Frye has a lane agility of 11.60, and average for top power forwards is 11.57, while average for top centers is 12.09.

Meanwhile, Lou has a lane agility of 10.58. Think about the difference that kind of quickness makes, especially when he hustles like crazy.

I know this should be in the trade thread, but Indy has cap space, could we turn Chilldress for Lou? Chilly may do very well there. We might have to throw in a future second. Then trade Lopez to ATL for our second rounder back. Start Morris and move Frye back to the bench, with Lou next to him.

[JohnVancouver]

draftexpress numbers say that Frye has a lane agility of 11.60, and average for top power forwards is 11.57, while average for top centers is 12.09.

Meanwhile, Lou has a lane agility of 10.58. Think about the difference that kind of quickness makes, especially when he hustles like crazy.

I know this should be in the trade thread, but Indy has cap space, could we turn Chilldress for Lou? Chilly may do very well there. We might have to throw in a future second. Then trade Lopez to ATL for our second rounder back. Start Morris and move Frye back to the bench, with Lou next to him.

It works in Trade Checker but in the real world? They're adding %3+ million a year for 3 yrs ... or actually 2 more after this, and I believe the last is team option? Still, it's an increase in spending and for what? Maybe Chilly has residual value from when he actually got on the court. I mean, I still believe the guy is good - maybe the FOs around the league still do too.
But I think it's more likely they take Lopez straight up at the same money. He's not expensive to re-sign and I don't think they would weep if he left in FA, either. I dont; believe they took Lou as anything other than a body to make the deal for BRush

I want Lou back.

[rsavaj]

I made a PER vs USG chart. A little cut off but it makes the point.

[RunDogGun]

It works in Trade Checker but in the real world? They're adding %3+ million a year for 3 yrs ... or actually 2 more after this, and I believe the last is team option? Still, it's an increase in spending and for what? Maybe Chilly has residual value from when he actually got on the court. I mean, I still believe the guy is good - maybe the FOs around the league still do too.
But I think it's more likely they take Lopez straight up at the same money. He's not expensive to re-sign and I don't think they would weep if he left in FA, either. I dont; believe they took Lou as anything other than a body to make the deal for BRush

I want Lou back.

I knew it was a stretch, but the way they play, Chilly would fit pretty well as a bench player. If gets into some type of rhythm there or can get back to preEuro form he could be quite worth it. But he isn't even getting a chance to do that here. I wanted to save Lopez to trade to ATL so we can get our second rounder back.

[JohnVancouver]

I'd honestly rather see warrick go, still, because he's gone bak to being who he was last year. But yeah - Chilly for Lou, do it. Lopez to ATL ... mmmm. I'd want at least 2 second rounders for him. I believe he has trade value, minimal but not that minimal. I think he could be dealt to Minny for Beasely.
Lopez and warrick/Chilly for Beas and AR?

[RunDogGun]

I'd honestly rather see warrick go, still, because he's gone bak to being who he was last year. But yeah - Chilly for Lou, do it. Lopez to ATL ... mmmm. I'd want at least 2 second rounders for him. I believe he has trade value, minimal but not that minimal. I think he could be dealt to Minny for Beasely.
Lopez and warrick/Chilly for Beas and AR?

They would have to really covet Lopez for that to happen. I could see AR, but not Beasley. But if it was possible, we could then trade our draft pick (outside of top ten). For a later pick and something else, and pick up one of the point guards.

However, with Beasley's drug past, I have a hard time seeing this franchise wanting him.

[bigfoot]

However, with Beasley's drug past, I have a hard time seeing this franchise wanting him.

Yeah can you say Richard Dumas and Sweet D

[JohnVancouver]

I'd honestly rather see warrick go, still, because he's gone bak to being who he was last year. But yeah - Chilly for Lou, do it. Lopez to ATL ... mmmm. I'd want at least 2 second rounders for him. I believe he has trade value, minimal but not that minimal. I think he could be dealt to Minny for Beasely.
Lopez and warrick/Chilly for Beas and AR?

They would have to really covet Lopez for that to happen. I could see AR, but not Beasley. But if it was possible, we could then trade our draft pick (outside of top ten). For a later pick and something else, and pick up one of the point guards.

However, with Beasley's drug past, I have a hard time seeing this franchise wanting him.

After watching the game last night, Minny doesn't need Lopez - Darko and Pekovic are doing just fine for them. Which doesn't mean Kahn doesn't' do it anyway ...

[nevetsov]

Hak has played enough and started strong enough to have some value. If he is back to being 11th on the depth chart, we may as well trade him for at least an expiring. Maybe we could move him to Indy for Lou.

That would make Lopez expendable, and it would be best to trade him now then to be put in the position of matching for him. Trade him now and make it someone else's problem. Complete fantasy but if Boston continue to suck they might like an injection of youth. Childress and Lopez for Ray Allen.

Nash, Allen, Hill, Morris, Gortat
Price, Brown/Redd, Dudley, Amundson, Frye

[Wannabe MEP]

Gentry lurking here ? Todays starting lineup pretty close to Los Soles one.

"If we can get positive minutes out of Brown, that's 8 guys we can rely on. So why not:
PG: Nash-32/Price/16
SG: Price-16/Brown-24/Hill-8
SF: Dudley-32/Hill-16
PF: Markieff-32/Frye-16
c: Gortat-32/Frye-16 "

2-0 so far with some of my recommendations. Some of them. Gentry still doesn't understand that you don't have to play 10 players; you can stagger subs. Just because Price starts at the 2 doesn't mean he can't still run the point for the second team sometimes.

2 really good things happened with the lineup switches against Boston:

-4-out with four 3-point shooters: Telfair-Brown-Dudley-Frye-Lopez. ORtg 121.43. DRtg 71.43.
-Dudley played some minutes at the 4. For that unit: ORtg 125.0. DRtg 62.5.

These two lineups move Dudley out of the 2 which helps with quickness (Brown at the 2 now), spacing (better shooting with Hak on the bench), and defense (did I mention Hak being on the bench?). These lineups provided more than the winning differential.

[_Nashoholic_]

This team is bad. Look at it this way. You take Nash and Gortat away and you have probably the worst team in NBA history.

Price/Telfair
Dudley/Brown
Hill/Redd
Morris/Warrick
Lopez/Frye


That team would not get 10 wins in a 66 game season.

Nash and Gortat can't do this all alone.

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