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Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5)

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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#281 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:19 am

9 Beasley assists, wow this has to be a typo. :o
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#282 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:59 am

Calvin Klein wrote:I don't understand the hate for Dudley. He is struggling, yes. But why are you all expecting him to drop 20 a night? He is not a scorer. He is not even supposed to be starter. He is just there by default.

I don't see many big problems with this team, considering what we have. I don't like Beasley, but I think a lot of people have already said what I think.

Goran is playing well, although he keeps gambling the ball by jumping and then having to pass it. He has to be more patient.

I wish rotations were more consistent. It seems Gentry tries new rotations every game.


Duds can't even hit open 3's which hurts us significantly. Why not just bring him off the bench where he belongs? Maybe he should focus more on his game then twitter.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#283 » by Blackification » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:09 am

Calvin Klein wrote:I don't understand the hate for Dudley. He is struggling, yes. But why are you all expecting him to drop 20 a night? He is not a scorer. He is not even supposed to be starter. He is just there by default.

I don't see many big problems with this team, considering what we have. I don't like Beasley, but I think a lot of people have already said what I think.

Goran is playing well, although he keeps gambling the ball by jumping and then having to pass it. He has to be more patient.

I wish rotations were more consistent. It seems Gentry tries new rotations every game.

Biggest problem is the defense and we have no closer or star player for leadership.

Also no consistent play from the SG and sf positions.

Honestly I think you throw in a healthy EG and Iggy into our SG and SF position and wed be a force in the west.

Just getting those two allstar type players in our SG and SF spots before our Center and PF regress will be the challenge of this rebuild. And how do we get those all stars without losing players from those positions in a trade and getting mediocre draft picks? Free agency alone is difficult unless you are a huge market like LA. On top of that it seems like the only players we can get in free agency right now are the ones that we traded away or the ones that come here for the medical staff when they are on the verge of retirement.

Lol I kind of went into a rant there :oops:
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#284 » by BurningHeart » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:36 am

Dwight Howard can **** himself.


"Howard also said, "Dragic, or whatever the point guard's name is, he's tricky." Yeah, he leads PHX in pts (16.7), asts (7.2) & steals (1.8)."

Piece of ****.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#285 » by Blackification » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:44 am

^^ Lmao I came in to post that.. what a douche at least show some class.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#286 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:47 am

All Dwight knows to do is raise his hands and look at refs all confused like he just got raped. Learn how to make a few ft in a row Dwighty.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#287 » by Revived » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:01 pm

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Suns fans aren't looking for a specific player to pick on. It's just obvious that Beasley is a black hole and makes a ton of mistakes not just on offense but defense as well. Why do you think T-Wolves fans are so happy that Beas is no longer with their team? I'm sick and tired of seeing Beasley take a difficult shot while nobody is there to grab a rebound or when he grabs a board dribbles it like he's some sort of point guard while Dragic is pondering what in the world is he doing. I'm sorry if you're too blind to see that while 97% of Suns fans are irritated with him.

I'm too blind? Bro calm down, like I said earlier everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I never said he was doing good. He's been having a bad season, no doubt. But I definitely don't think that he's been the reason we're bad this year.

And I am going to give him at least a full season before I write him off completely. Cause other than maybe Goran, he's still the only guy on this team that can maybe become a star player and go to player for us. Right now it's looking a bit slim though.

The major problem I have with Beasley right now is his D. Nobody should be allowing World Peace to go HAM.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#288 » by Revived » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:04 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:I don't understand the hate for Dudley. He is struggling, yes. But why are you all expecting him to drop 20 a night? He is not a scorer. He is not even supposed to be starter. He is just there by default.

I don't see many big problems with this team, considering what we have. I don't like Beasley, but I think a lot of people have already said what I think.

Goran is playing well, although he keeps gambling the ball by jumping and then having to pass it. He has to be more patient.

I wish rotations were more consistent. It seems Gentry tries new rotations every game.

Dudley doesn't have to be a scorer but at least he can be a defender.

His defense has been the most disappointing thing for me this season. It's like he doesn't care about playing D anymore. And his 3pt shot is also off. Dragic sets him up perfectly just to have him clank it.

He needs a wake up call and that's why I think Brown should start over him.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#289 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:07 pm

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DragicTime85 wrote:
Suns fans aren't looking for a specific player to pick on. It's just obvious that Beasley is a black hole and makes a ton of mistakes not just on offense but defense as well. Why do you think T-Wolves fans are so happy that Beas is no longer with their team? I'm sick and tired of seeing Beasley take a difficult shot while nobody is there to grab a rebound or when he grabs a board dribbles it like he's some sort of point guard while Dragic is pondering what in the world is he doing. I'm sorry if you're too blind to see that while 97% of Suns fans are irritated with him.

I'm too blind? Bro calm down, like I said earlier everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I never said he was doing good. He's been having a bad season, no doubt. But I definitely don't think that he's been the reason we're bad this year.

And I am going to give him at least a full season before I write him off completely. Cause other than maybe Goran, he's still the only guy on this team that can maybe become a star player and go to player for us. Right now it's looking a bit slim though.

The major problem I have with Beasley right now is his D. Nobody should be allowing World Peace to go HAM.


I have nothing against the dude, he seems like he desperately wants to change and doesn't wanna be portrait as a "monster" like he stated. But Beas needs to realize that he can help the team in other aspects of the game instead of just shooting. I'll give him time since he's fairly young and who knows which level he can bring his "A" game in a few years.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#290 » by GrantHill » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:12 pm

Beasley is young but he has been in the league for 5 years now. Why do guys think that he's going to change his mentality out of nowwhere and actually show some energy, hustle and that he cares about the game?
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#291 » by lazfa199 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:31 pm

DragicTime85 wrote:
I have nothing against the dude, he seems like he desperately wants to change and doesn't wanna be portrait as a "monster" like he stated. But Beas needs to realize that he can help the team in other aspects of the game instead of just shooting. I'll give him time since he's fairly young and who knows which level he can bring his "A" game in a few years.


:-? so the nine assists he had were useless? he actually could have had even more if the others finished some of the baskets. Its obvious that you have a bias against him, if he scores the ball hes not helping the team, if passes the ball hes not helping the team, if he rebounds the hes not helping the team, if he gets a steal and brings the ball up the court hes not helping the team, if he plays within the offense hes not helping the team. I agree with what the other poster said, Beasley is an easy target because of his past and some people will continue to blame him.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#292 » by lazfa199 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:35 pm

sunsfan88 wrote:Did we really give up 17 offensive boards to the Lakers? Wow I'm glad I chose to go out on my Friday night instead of watching the Suns get smothered by LAL.

Gortat really needs to grow a pair and man up against good front courts. First the Urah game and now this. SMH

I'm actually encouraged by this loss though. I like that our guys are developing more chemistry with each other. Beasley's 9 assists and Scola's 18 points speaks volumes.

But I think the most ironic thing is that the newcomers to our starting lineup (Dragic, Scola, Beasley) are the ones who did good while our returners (Gortat, Dudley) sucked.

Now time to get butt whipped tomorrow at the mercy of the Heat.


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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#293 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:44 pm

lazfa199 wrote:
DragicTime85 wrote:
I have nothing against the dude, he seems like he desperately wants to change and doesn't wanna be portrait as a "monster" like he stated. But Beas needs to realize that he can help the team in other aspects of the game instead of just shooting. I'll give him time since he's fairly young and who knows which level he can bring his "A" game in a few years.


:-? so the nine assists he had were useless? he actually could have had even more if the others finished some of the baskets. Its obvious that you have a bias against him, if he scores the ball hes not helping the team, if passes the ball hes not helping the team, if he rebounds the hes not helping the team, if he gets a steal and brings the ball up the court hes not helping the team, if he plays within the offense hes not helping the team. I agree with what the other poster said, Beasley is an easy target because of his past and some people will continue to blame him.


So, because of one game in which he dished out 9 assists I'm wrong with everything I've said? I don't despise him as much as others do but I'm just pointing out the obvious in which I've witnessed in the first 10 games of the season.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#294 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:40 pm

Finally watched it. How many god dammed three's are we going to give that clown uncontested? world idiot wasn't guarded the whole game. measley is starting to annoy me.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#295 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:05 pm

Beasley has shown he can be a good SF.

9 assists..

I think when he feels like his shot is off he needs to become a facilitator and step up defensively.. Do this and he becomes very serviceable... Not bad for 6 million a year
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#296 » by NaturalBuns » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:28 pm

Every team has a guy who under achieves you guys are dramatic. We could go to every team who thinks they have a guy who should be playing better just because dudley is clanking 3s doesn't mean hes bad. If your talking defense please.. he had to guard kobe i think are weakest position is PF defensive wise scola, morris get burned on boards are height with pts. I don't like frye but im starting to miss his length real bad.
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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#297 » by BurningHeart » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:31 am

NaturalBuns wrote: I don't like frye but im starting to miss his length real bad.


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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#298 » by ATTL » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:12 am

NaturalBuns wrote: I don't like frye but im starting to miss his length real bad.


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Re: Game 10: Phoenix Suns (4-5) @ LA Lakers (3-5) 

Post#299 » by RunDogGun » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:02 pm

I just got back to Cali and watched most of the game. Man did we get hosed on every call, or was it just me? I DVRd the game here, so I had the laker commentators. It was sad to see them show a few replays where the wrong call was clearly made, and they said either nothing, or praised the wrong call. The Howard block that clearly hit the backboard first was pretty bad, but the Hill block on Gortat wasn't even close. That was all wrist. I still don't know how a ref thinks a two handed dunk can be blocked from the side. :nonono:

If it wasn't for all those missed calls, and a bulk of the time our second unit had to face their starters, that may have been a great game. We did give up too many threes, but we made things rough inside. Overall, I liked our scrappy defense, we were just late on some rotations, and we allowed a few guys to get a rhythm too early.

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