Suns Draft Kendall Marshall

youngthegiant · Post #621 » by **youngthegiant** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:43 am

what would it take for denver to get him? Maybe andre miller can put him under his wing. pretty similar players imo.

Post #622 » by **ATTL** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:42 am

I'd accept a lotto protected first rounder in 2014 draft for him.

GrantHill · Post #623 » by **GrantHill** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:53 am

RunSunRun wrote:#Suns GM Lance Blanks: "Kendall represents where we are as an organization. Don't read too far into this for free agency... He's a winner."

Just reading through this thread and saw that twitter quote on the first couple pages, just shows how delusional our front office is,

Blanks is the biggest idiot out there. Just look at the draft interviews the season prior or the introduction press conferences by Johnson and Beasley.

Post #624 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jan 2, 2013 12:41 am

ATTL wrote:I'd accept a lotto protected first rounder in 2014 draft for him.

lol, I'd be happy with a late first. Even early 2nd, since the contract isn't guaranteed.

thamadkant · Post #625 » by **thamadkant** » Wed Jan 2, 2013 12:44 am

YFZblu wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:You can still build through the draft... just not exclusively. Good teams amass talent.

It is much more straight forward to retool when your cornerstones are in place. The Suns have no cornerstones, so they do not have that luxury.

Rebuilding through the draft when the team isn't any good, and only having mid first rounders to work with is probably the worst possible scenario.

+1

- Suns do not have any attractive assets to trade for Star FAs.
- Suns have aging role players save Dragic who is a starter role player type... From another team's point of view... Very bad trading partners.

- Constantly fighting for late lottery picks whilst hoping for a Star FA to come is negligence.
20 other teams are on the market for star FAs.. 10 of them with top 10 picks... See my point above.
Star FA acquisition via just big money offer sign-off is a high risk way because of the Restricted FA clause, Derrick Rose clause, and the fact that Lakers, Celtics etc are also going to be on the market within the next 2-3 years and have assets to clear space to sign new stars.

Sun have to build through draft for the next 2 years anyways IMO... To get 1. assets, 2. be attractive to FAs.... Which will boost leverage in trades... It simply get to draft the next star(s).

Post #626 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Jan 4, 2013 2:29 pm

Marshall blows. Don't think he'll be anywhere close to where the Suns FO wants him to be. I can see him being bounced around the league before playing overseas.

RunDogGun · Post #627 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Jan 4, 2013 4:28 pm

youngthegiant wrote:what would it take for denver to get him? Maybe andre miller can put him under his wing. pretty similar players imo.

How about Marshall, Johnson, and our 2013 second rounder for Brewer, Q Miller or Fournier?

TruthTelling · Post #628 » by **TruthTelling** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:09 pm

YFZblu wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:You can still build through the draft... just not exclusively. Good teams amass talent.

It is much more straight forward to retool when your cornerstones are in place. The Suns have no cornerstones, so they do not have that luxury.

Rebuilding through the draft when the team isn't any good, and only having mid first rounders to work with is probably the worst possible scenario.

The thing is and this is pretty much fact: You can't build a winner if you don't draft well. If you want to build a winner you have to capitalize in the draft.

The draft is the only reliable pretty much FREE asset generator in the NBA that allows you to increase the assets on your roster for cheap.

Lakers - Kobe/Bynum
Mavs - Dirk
Spurs - Duncan/Parker/Ginobili/Leonard/Robinson ..
Miami - Wade/Haslem
Cavs - Lebron
Golden State - Curry
Clippers - Griffin/Jordan
OKC - Harden, Durant, Westbrook
Memphis - Gay, Conley, Gasol
Detroit - Prince
Boston - Pierce, Rondo, Davis etc
Portland - Roy/Aldridge
Phoenix - Amare/Marion

You can go back and analyze championship contenders in the past and you will find that all teams have acquired absolute KEY players to their success in the draft without exception.
You could also include identifying 1st year players still on their rookie contracts as a recipe as the Suns did with Joe Johnson or the Pistons with Ben Wallace I think.

New York right now is an exception but even they had to acquire draft assets first in Galinari and Chandler to deal for Carmelo who forced his way to New York on top of that.

bigfoot · Post #629 » by **bigfoot** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:35 pm

17 points
7 assists
4 steals
.667 FG%
3-3 on 3ptrs
20 minutes

Diante Garrett's first D-League game

Post #630 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:12 pm

bigfoot wrote:17 points
7 assists
4 steals
.667 FG%
3-3 on 3ptrs
20 minutes

Diante Garrett's first D-League game

I like to think that we actually took Garrett in the lotto and Kendall was the walk-on.

The stats make more sense that way.

exSunsFan · Post #631 » by **exSunsFan** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:00 pm

If Marshall spent as much time in the gym as on twitter he would be an allstar

GrantHill · Post #632 » by **GrantHill** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:21 pm

Is that you, sunsfan88?

exSunsFan · Post #633 » by **exSunsFan** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:30 pm

No sir! First time on here! I just watched and read until all of you guys ticked me off about how confident u were with this team and expected playoffs

This is ridiculous enjoy the rebuild and watch some future studs develop

DRK · Post #634 » by **DRK** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:37 am

exSunsFan wrote:No sir! First time on here! I just watched and read until all of you guys ticked me off about how confident u were with this team and expected playoffs

This is ridiculous enjoy the rebuild and watch some future studs develop

I get the feeling we'll be seeing alot more of you around here.

:party:

RunSunRun · Post #635 » by **RunSunRun** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:46 pm

Well, looks like this kid will be getting some playing time with the new coach coming in. Time to see if we hit or miss with this guy, kid better be ready to impress or Babby may put out a hit on him, :lol:

Dragic13 · Post #636 » by **Dragic13** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:19 pm

RunSunRun wrote:Well, looks like this kid will be getting some playing time with the new coach coming in. Time to see if we hit or miss with this guy, kid better be ready to impress or Babby may put out a hit on him,

Id rather see him get playing time and see what hes worth rather than shipping him out or giving up on him like we have done on many other players.

Id also like to see Morris start over Scola. Scolas been playing great but we arnt in the buisness of winning atm. Id rather Morris get the extra minutes.

Dragic13 · Post #637 » by **Dragic13** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:42 pm

Garrett played 2 games in the D-league

He is averaging 14/2/6 on 50/86/100

In only 22 MPG

8-)

Revived · Post #638 » by **Revived** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:55 am

GrantHill wrote:Is that you, sunsfan88?

No but you still believing in Kendall Marshall proving that he's worth the #13 pick of the draft?

:lol:

Kid can't even play well in D-LEAGUE!

LukasBMW · Post #639 » by **LukasBMW** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:46 am

I knew we were in deep **** when I watched the NBA draft and the commentators were making every lottery pick sound like a future hall of famer. Then when the Suns drafted Marshall the commentators agreed that he "might" become a solid player someday.

LOL. Our front office sucks. Our franchise is now a joke.

SUN · Post #640 » by **SUN** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:27 am

LukasBMW wrote:I knew we were in deep **** when I watched the NBA draft and the commentators were making every lottery pick sound like a future hall of famer. Then when the Suns drafted Marshall the commentators agreed that he "might" become a solid player someday.

LOL. Our front office sucks. Our franchise is now a joke.

Now? It's been a joke for a year or two now. I like Kendall, but I'm not seeing anything else more then a very poor man's Andre Miller.