Jermaine O'Neal and Lance Bass shouting match

[RunDogGun]

Sadly yes if you think about it.

If they would have made Dan the interim coach and then brought on a different head coach over the summer my gut tells me that he would have had no problem going back to being an assistant because he is a loyal to a fault and doesnt have a huge ego. He also stated that if Turner was givin the interim or permanent coahcing job he would have happily stayed on as assistant. Doing what Blanks did ensures that Majerle will never work for the Phoenix Suns again in any aspect which in my opinion is a shame. I stick by statement that it could not have been handled any worse from a professional perspective. And i'm pretty sure O'Neal agrees with me.

Loyal to a fault? Wouldn't he still be coaching with the Suns if he was "loyal to a fault"?

[EB2]

Sadly yes if you think about it.

If they would have made Dan the interim coach and then brought on a different head coach over the summer my gut tells me that he would have had no problem going back to being an assistant because he is a loyal to a fault and doesnt have a huge ego. He also stated that if Turner was givin the interim or permanent coahcing job he would have happily stayed on as assistant. Doing what Blanks did ensures that Majerle will never work for the Phoenix Suns again in any aspect which in my opinion is a shame. I stick by statement that it could not have been handled any worse from a professional perspective. And i'm pretty sure O'Neal agrees with me.

Loyal to a fault? Wouldn't he still be coaching with the Suns if he was "loyal to a fault"?

Well...
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/20130123dan-majerle-felt-like-he-deserved-shot-at-being-suns-coach.html?nclick_check=1

[mybloodisorange]

Sadly yes if you think about it.

If they would have made Dan the interim coach and then brought on a different head coach over the summer my gut tells me that he would have had no problem going back to being an assistant because he is a loyal to a fault and doesnt have a huge ego. He also stated that if Turner was givin the interim or permanent coahcing job he would have happily stayed on as assistant. Doing what Blanks did ensures that Majerle will never work for the Phoenix Suns again in any aspect which in my opinion is a shame. I stick by statement that it could not have been handled any worse from a professional perspective. And i'm pretty sure O'Neal agrees with me.

Loyal to a fault? Wouldn't he still be coaching with the Suns if he was "loyal to a fault"?

Even the most loyal people have limits.

[BurningHeart]

I don't care to see anyone who wanted this team to hit rock bottom bitch about it. This is what happens in worthless, incompetent, pathetic franchises.

You get what you ask for. For some, they've been asking for exactly this for a long, long time. And we tried to tell them what happens and they didn't care. They wanted their NBA2k-style fix and that's that. Well, it doesn't work that way.

But hey, enjoy it. It's what you wanted.

People arent mad because we are tanking; we've been doing that all year long. And even though I was suprised by the Gentry firing but I wouldnt say I or anyone else was truly upset; Gentry was done at the end of the season and was probably relieved to get away from this current incarnation of the Suns organization.

Choosing to bypass Dan Majerle who was promised the job is why people are upset BH. You totally mischaracterized the entire drama in my opinion. They should have at least givin him the interim job as a token gesture and then replace him later over the summer if they didnt want to keep him longterm. They basically couldn't have handled it any worse from a professional perspective and Phoenix Loves Dan Majerle.

That's what happens in bull organizations. You guys wanted this. You got it. Don't be surprised Majerle got screwed. Teams that are disasters do awful things. Play on the court, organizational dysfunction, it's all part of it. Don't try to distance yourselves now. Own it. Embrace it. Just like elections have consequences, so does everything else.

[Dragic13]

I don't care to see anyone who wanted this team to hit rock bottom bitch about it. This is what happens in worthless, incompetent, pathetic franchises.

You get what you ask for. For some, they've been asking for exactly this for a long, long time. And we tried to tell them what happens and they didn't care. They wanted their NBA2k-style fix and that's that. Well, it doesn't work that way.

But hey, enjoy it. It's what you wanted.

People arent mad because we are tanking; we've been doing that all year long. And even though I was suprised by the Gentry firing but I wouldnt say I or anyone else was truly upset; Gentry was done at the end of the season and was probably relieved to get away from this current incarnation of the Suns organization.

Choosing to bypass Dan Majerle who was promised the job is why people are upset BH. You totally mischaracterized the entire drama in my opinion. They should have at least givin him the interim job as a token gesture and then replace him later over the summer if they didnt want to keep him longterm. They basically couldn't have handled it any worse from a professional perspective and Phoenix Loves Dan Majerle.

That's what happens in bull organizations. You guys wanted this. You got it. Don't be surprised Majerle got screwed. Teams that are disasters do awful things. Play on the court, organizational dysfunction, it's all part of it. Don't try to distance yourselves now. Own it. Embrace it. Just like elections have consequences, so does everything else.

[mybloodisorange]

I don't care to see anyone who wanted this team to hit rock bottom bitch about it. This is what happens in worthless, incompetent, pathetic franchises.

You get what you ask for. For some, they've been asking for exactly this for a long, long time. And we tried to tell them what happens and they didn't care. They wanted their NBA2k-style fix and that's that. Well, it doesn't work that way.

But hey, enjoy it. It's what you wanted.

People arent mad because we are tanking; we've been doing that all year long. And even though I was suprised by the Gentry firing but I wouldnt say I or anyone else was truly upset; Gentry was done at the end of the season and was probably relieved to get away from this current incarnation of the Suns organization.

Choosing to bypass Dan Majerle who was promised the job is why people are upset BH. You totally mischaracterized the entire drama in my opinion. They should have at least givin him the interim job as a token gesture and then replace him later over the summer if they didnt want to keep him longterm. They basically couldn't have handled it any worse from a professional perspective and Phoenix Loves Dan Majerle.

That's what happens in bull organizations. You guys wanted this. You got it. Don't be surprised Majerle got screwed. Teams that are disasters do awful things. Play on the court, organizational dysfunction, it's all part of it. Don't try to distance yourselves now. Own it. Embrace it. Just like elections have consequences, so does everything else.

Quit saying things like "we got what we wanted". You are being intellectually dishonest; nobody wanted Sarver to screw a franchise legend who he had promised to be next in line. Your statement makes as much sense as saying "na na na na na na I told you so" because I strongly doubt you saw this coming either.

[BurningHeart]

I did, actually. Maybe it's because I pay attention to how things work in sports and life.

You can't NBA2k your way to prosperity. Things just don't work like that in reality. The team breaks and the organization breaks. The organization breaks and the team breaks. It's just how it happens. Sooner or later, all of Sarver's missteps were going to come to a head. Started years ago. Here we are. Predictable as can be.

Sorry for being a realist.

[mybloodisorange]

Don't try to distance yourselves now. Own it. Embrace it. Just like elections have consequences, so does everything else.

I did, actually. Maybe it's because I pay attention to how things work in sports and life.

You can't NBA2k your way to prosperity. Things just don't work like that in reality. The team breaks and the organization breaks. The organization breaks and the team breaks. It's just how it happens. Sooner or later, all of Sarver's missteps were going to come to a head. Started years ago. Here we are. Predictable as can be.

Sorry for being a realist.

I'm glad to know that you are the authority on how things work in reality. I'm taking my xbox and going home now.

[Frank Lee]

....nobody wanted Sarver to screw a franchise legend who he had promised to be next in line.....

jeez... rewrite history much ? So somewhere you have read that Sarver had 'promised' Majerle the Head job ?

It makes it rather convenient when you are able to fabricate scenarios that support your viewpoint. Show a link if I am in wrong about your fib.

[mybloodisorange]

....nobody wanted Sarver to screw a franchise legend who he had promised to be next in line.....

jeez... rewrite history much ? So somewhere you have read that Sarver had 'promised' Majerle the Head job ?

It makes it rather convenient when you are able to fabricate scenarios that support your viewpoint. Show a link if I am in wrong about your fib.

This isnt a fabrication and I dont have a link. I prefer not to tell who my source is either since nobody would believe me or care...I would just get trolled and what is the point in that? Just go ahead and continue calling me a liar who fabricates facts if it makes you feel better.

[RunDogGun]

It doesn't really matter if Dan was promised the head coaching job at some point. The FO thought that Dan's style was too close to Gentry's, and they wanted a more discipline coach. People change their mind all the time in business. You could have a great interview, be great with people, but just not do the job how management wants it done.

Way too many second hand news on this one, sorry to steal a Fleetwood Mac song.

[ShawnBronald]

It doesn't really matter if Dan was promised the head coaching job at some point. The FO thought that Dan's style was too close to Gentry's, and they wanted a more discipline coach. People change their mind all the time in business. You could have a great interview, be great with people, but just not do the job how management wants it done.

Way too many second hand news on this one, sorry to steal a Fleetwood Mac song.

Then why not fire both Majerle and Turner at the same time you fired Gentry? I still don't understand this. Furthermore, why say to the media that you've offered both men positions to stay and hope they do, when in fact, that's not true. This 3 headed monster known as our Front Office should be way, way more transparent. Honesty and straightforwardness (is that a word?) go a long way with most people. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.

[RunDogGun]

They just didn't want them for the head coaching job, and maybe they didnt think their presence was a good idea. I wasn't in the meetings so I'm not going to guess what was said or not said. Maybe they told the media that so that they didn't look like they fired the boys. Either way, they didn't feel like having the same or similar style finishing the year.

[mybloodisorange]

I know why they are doing it...out with the old, in with the new. Hitting the reset button, clearing out the old regime..whatever you want to call it. I'm just basically complaining because from a professional standpoint it seemed like they werent being forthright and were they were playing games which ruffled alot of feathers. I personally can think of half a dozen ways it could have been handled better...but thats just me being butthurt for Dan and the last of the old guard.

I'm not even saying I disagree with their strategy. When you are tanking the more chaos the better! I just simply think the transition was executed badly.

[RunDogGun]

I agree that it could have been handled better, but nothing to get butthurt over. Dan wasn't ready to be a head coach, and it seems like neither was ET. And I don't think it was an out with the old, because Igor would have been gone as well. It seemed pretty simple, out the the enablers and in with the toughness.

It's like one of my favorite scenes in Bull Durham, where the coach doesn't know how to get through to the guys, and Crash says to scare them.

I liked Dan as a player, but he wasn't my favorite player. And I also felt like he stopped driving to the basket once his three point shot came around. He stopped doing the thing that gave him the Thunder nickname.

When I would grout of town, and had to get a sub for my students, I never picked the guy/gal that all the students liked. I chose someone that was super tough.

[Cutter]

It doesn't really matter if Dan was promised the head coaching job at some point. The FO thought that Dan's style was too close to Gentry's, and they wanted a more discipline coach. People change their mind all the time in business. You could have a great interview, be great with people, but just not do the job how management wants it done.

Way too many second hand news on this one, sorry to steal a Fleetwood Mac song.

Bingo, Bingo, Bingo RDG.

Even if Sarver promised Majerle the next HC job (which I highly highly doubt), he has every moral and legal right to change his mind.

[JohnVancouver]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball- ... --nba.html

[RunDogGun]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/phoenix-gm-lance-blanks-defends-way-hired-lindsey-173104602--nba.html

Actually, I am tired of the reading between the lines of the "popular" hire. Especially after the writer goes into great length to show how "popular" Dan was in PHX. I really didn't like the way the writer implied "lightweight" to the popular vote. Kobe constantly gets the "popular" vote for the allstar game, does that mean Kobe is a lightweight?