Bright Side on our roster and cap space

[Twuan89]

Good Article!

[MathiasPW]

I think the Suns are in a very good position. We have far more valuable contracts now than a year ago.
I'm betting the Suns front office is looking at putting together a nice package of players to a team for an all-star over the summer. I can't really say what player... but I think that's the overall idea. Along with making a great draft pick (or two), and then probably signing a free agent.

I agree here. Projecting our roster with current players will most likely be flawed as most of what we have now are assets for trade. We see a very short lenght on what management is looking for (and they obviously have no reason to show all their plans). From what we can see, they have freed up cap space, signed a couple of long-term bets (Dragic and Beasley), and collected several picks and good contracts which can be packaged and offered to bring in good players on a heavy FT season in 2014.

I wouldn't expect Scola, Gortat, Brown (please), and even Duds to be here in a couple of seasons. Til then we will play limited basketball.

[BobbieL]

This just proves the Morris trade made ZERO sense. ZERO sense.

A waste of $2m of cap space. Team option. Probably have to use it or look stupid for trading for the guy

Yours truly,
the Idiots

You can't be serious

There... I corrected his post.

So the front office parlayed Telfair and a 2013 second for Morris and a 2014 second ? We should be adding 2 more rooks to this team as is this yr. No need to overload the crib with babies.

Why the diaper rash over this ? Its a tiny deal with very low risk.

Personally, if I am the Suns, I would rather have the most cap space possible to absorb the largest contract possible then add a player for very low risk. Yes, the Suns do have assets for a sign and trade. But where a team really has leverage is if they don't need a sign and trade to absorb a contract. I think the Suns lost a little bit of that leverage with this trade.

Yes, the contracts of the Morris are easily movable. yes, they can pro-rate shannon brown or beasley so the cap rules have changed. We shall see what we shall see.

[RunDogGun]

Then what exactly is your plan? How are we supposed to get a winning culture ever from now on without tanking? Or would you rather get the 9th pick every year and never draft a player worth a damn because superstars are only drafted in the top 3. I want superstars. I want Andrew Wiggins. If you want Jared Dudley then power to you.

I could once again write many paragraphs on while I feel views like yours are wrong on so many levels, 1.) from a standpoint of how unlikely such a path is to yield any success, and 2.) from how having such a plan is just plain damaging to the NBA. and no, playing youth/rebuilding is not the same as losing on purpose, although the results usually go hand in hand. For the sake of brevity I'll keep it short and just say there are few teams each year that can actually legitimately win a championship, should all 20-25 other teams tank? And whether or not they do, would you quit your job because it gives you a better chance of winning a lottery?

The draft system is designed to compensate teams that actually try hard, but SUCK. when you have teams try to suck on purpose it ruins the system; why should anyone be rewarded for trying to fail. if there was a way to prove a team was tanking, they should be stripped of their draft pick, simple.

I think Mooch sums things up quite well, so I will answer your questions, hopefully without repeating the idea he pointed out.

My plan would be to get a real head coach and good to great coaching staff that has championship experience (in college, WNBA, or NBA) , and build a good system that can work with our player's talents, and allow new talents to easily be mixed. This is something we have yet to do for the past twenty years or so. The only thing that came close was D'Antoni's system, but because he was so stubborn it didn't allow for change and we lost out on good assistant coaches like Thibs.

There is no guarantee that we draft superstars drafting in the top three, we have proof of that sitting on our bench named Beasley. Also, even finishing with the worst record doesn't guarantee a top three spot. The year that Oden and KD were drafted, the top three losers were not the top three drafters. Oddly, it was the same year that Stern said he did not like teams "tanking" to get high picks. Anything that hurts the NBA in the long or short run, will feel the wrath of Stern and his goons.

I guess maybe some of you "tankers" have just never played basketball before, and have no idea what continuously losing does to a player and a team. It isn't a hole easily dug out of. Yes, some have had some extreme luck and wise choices that brought them out of that hole, but the one thing we have yet to have is luck, and our FO rarely makes the right choices. Two strikes there, one more, and we're out.

So again, my answer to a few of our problems is the system, our scouting, and coaching staff, all need to be changed for the better. Until those items are fixed, it won't matter who we draft, because they will leave as soon as they get a chance.

[Sunsaholic]

Then what exactly is your plan? How are we supposed to get a winning culture ever from now on without tanking? Or would you rather get the 9th pick every year and never draft a player worth a damn because superstars are only drafted in the top 3. I want superstars. I want Andrew Wiggins. If you want Jared Dudley then power to you.

I could once again write many paragraphs on while I feel views like yours are wrong on so many levels, 1.) from a standpoint of how unlikely such a path is to yield any success, and 2.) from how having such a plan is just plain damaging to the NBA. and no, playing youth/rebuilding is not the same as losing on purpose, although the results usually go hand in hand. For the sake of brevity I'll keep it short and just say there are few teams each year that can actually legitimately win a championship, should all 20-25 other teams tank? And whether or not they do, would you quit your job because it gives you a better chance of winning a lottery?

The draft system is designed to compensate teams that actually try hard, but SUCK. when you have teams try to suck on purpose it ruins the system; why should anyone be rewarded for trying to fail. if there was a way to prove a team was tanking, they should be stripped of their draft pick, simple.

I think Mooch sums things up quite well, so I will answer your questions, hopefully without repeating the idea he pointed out.

My plan would be to get a real head coach and good to great coaching staff that has championship experience (in college, WNBA, or NBA) , and build a good system that can work with our player's talents, and allow new talents to easily be mixed. This is something we have yet to do for the past twenty years or so. The only thing that came close was D'Antoni's system, but because he was so stubborn it didn't allow for change and we lost out on good assistant coaches like Thibs.

There is no guarantee that we draft superstars drafting in the top three, we have proof of that sitting on our bench named Beasley. Also, even finishing with the worst record doesn't guarantee a top three spot. The year that Oden and KD were drafted, the top three losers were not the top three drafters. Oddly, it was the same year that Stern said he did not like teams "tanking" to get high picks. Anything that hurts the NBA in the long or short run, will feel the wrath of Stern and his goons.

I guess maybe some of you "tankers" have just never played basketball before, and have no idea what continuously losing does to a player and a team. It isn't a hole easily dug out of. Yes, some have had some extreme luck and wise choices that brought them out of that hole, but the one thing we have yet to have is luck, and our FO rarely makes the right choices. Two strikes there, one more, and we're out.

So again, my answer to a few of our problems is the system, our scouting, and coaching staff, all need to be changed for the better. Until those items are fixed, it won't matter who we draft, because they will leave as soon as they get a chance.

This isn't a plan to get good players. I want to win a championship more than anything. In order to win championships you need at least 1 superstar on your team. We have pieces and assets to build around and/or trade which is fantastic. I'm glad we aren't in a situation like Charlotte, where even an all star wouldn't help them and they wouldn't be able to build around him. I'm not saying tell the players to intentionally lose the game. Of course not. I just consider this season as practice for them, mainly the young guys. Winning does not matter now. Develop players and losses will happen. I want a championship and I'm hungry as hell for it. You guys are fine with being a treadmill team that barely sneaks in the playoffs every year.

If somebody told you that if we tanked next year we would be guaranteed the #1 pick for Andrew Wiggins, would you do it? If not, then wow.

Your "plan" is getting a good staff. Obviously that is important, but the greatest coaching staff in the history of the universe can't coach a team like this to the championship. You need a superstar. We can't get any in free agency or trades in the upcoming years. We can get all star caliber players like Gordon through trades, but that's it. You take the best coach ever and without a top 5 NBA player or at least 2 top 10 NBA players on the same team a championship is flat out impossible. How do you see us winning a championship in the next decade? The only way is a good rebuild that focuses on building a team stacked with rookie contracts from high picks and using our trade assets wisely. Of course luck is involved, but it also takes luck to not fall off the "treadmill" that you want to be on. We can't rebuild wisely and in 2014 have
Dragic/Marshall
Oladipo/Dudley
Wiggins/Morris
Free agent or pick/Morris'
Noel/Anybody

Or we could have some crap with no all stars or future all stars. Do you not want to get back to the days of 2005-2008 and 2010 when we were contenders? We had Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, and Shawn Marion all in their primes on the same damn team! With no superstars looking to be available in the trade or FA market anytime soon, the draft is the answer.

[RunDogGun]

My plan doesn't hinge on players, it will build them. You seem to want to build a house without first putting down a strong foundation.

And I'm quite tired of this, "well if you don't want to build through the draft, than you must not want a chip.". Way too many assumptions by you, for me to take seriously. And just to remind you, no one will guarantee us a number one pick.

I'm glad you brought up Cha, tell me how how their number two, three, five, seventh picks from a few years ago are doing, none of which are on their team currently.

Dragic has already expressed his anger at guys looking to next year, yet you want us to look a year and a half ahead? Yep, he will want to stay with us. Just please stay in reality, and I will be glad to discuss this further.

I'm sure you were wanting us to get Oden as well. How's he doing right now? Changing cultures?