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OT: Jason Collins comes out in SI

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Re: OT: Jason Collins comes out in SI 

Post#61 » by RunDogGun » Sun May 5, 2013 5:14 am

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DRK wrote:Well from my point of view and my understanding of numerous scriptures in the bible, to say that you are "gay" and to also say that you are "Christian" is completely contradictory.


Well Christians should be followers of Christ. He preached tolerance and love; moreover, he was quite against corruption and greed. So it would make more sense to be gay and a Christian than a politician and Christian. :wink:


What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.

1st Corinthians 6:9-11


Jesus preached love and tolerance yes. No arguements, but when such matters clearly cross the line of God's Law, that is when there is a limit to it. You dont see Christian churches preaching to "love terrorists" because their action also clearly crosses God's Law.


It's listed like it is a conscious choice, and that it is something that's wrong. There are many things listed in the bible that just doesn't hold true to today's society. Read Leviticus. I'm not saying that one should not believe what they want. I just don't see how one could take everything in the bible literally, when so much of it was word of mouth stories that were told over many years before they were written down. And they were a collection of books that were written by man, and then decided on by men,to beput together. After that, there were many translations, words get lost, meanings get clouded, or even completely incorrect. I look at the bible as a guide,on how one should live their life. I just don't think Christ would want us to judge people based on what was written in the bible. I think he would say, "He who is without sin cast the first stone."

As far as Christians, I think they have often crossed God's law, and many times using His name as a reason, when it was never their place to do so.
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Re: OT: Jason Collins comes out in SI 

Post#62 » by lilfishi22 » Mon May 6, 2013 12:25 am

DRK wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
DRK wrote:Well from my point of view and my understanding of numerous scriptures in the bible, to say that you are "gay" and to also say that you are "Christian" is completely contradictory.


Well Christians should be followers of Christ. He preached tolerance and love; moreover, he was quite against corruption and greed. So it would make more sense to be gay and a Christian than a politician and Christian. :wink:


What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.

1st Corinthians 6:9-11


Jesus preached love and tolerance yes. No arguements, but when such matters clearly cross the line of God's Law, that is when there is a limit to it. You dont see Christian churches preaching to "love terrorists" because their action also clearly crosses God's Law.


There's a limit to God's law? Like the limit of thievery allowed before you are no longer allowed to ask for forgiveness? Is there a quote from the Bible referencing this particular number? Or is this an artificial limit as prescribed by the individual Christian/the individual preacher and his/her interpretation of the Bible?

Here's the dilemma, Christian's don't want to take the Bible literally because that would bring up more problems (and bad press) for today's society than it would fix. On the other hand, the alternative is individual interpretation of the holy book, which has actually caused more controversy.

Mahatma Gandhi wrote:I know of no one who has done more for humanity than Jesus. In fact, there is nothing wrong with Christianity ... The trouble is with you Christians. You do not begin to live up to your own teachings.
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Re: OT: Jason Collins comes out in SI 

Post#63 » by DRK » Mon May 6, 2013 2:34 pm

And... I couldnt agree with Gandhi more.

Well I'm not here to spark a never-ending religious debate. (I probably shouldnt have brought it in in the first place). Religious debates almost always get heated and uncontrollable. Lets just go back to basketball. :wink:
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Re: OT: Jason Collins comes out in SI 

Post#64 » by lilfishi22 » Mon May 6, 2013 11:50 pm

That would be good

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