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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#41 » by phrazbit » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:25 am

Hoops Addict wrote:JazzFan Here-

I come in peace to talk Hayward.

He wants $12M plus.


Question= Hows much does phoenix offer him???????

Assume he has the same stats. 18ppg. Do you offer him $12M?? if so the Jazz will match, but anything over they balk.

Please don't be jerks and offer him too much, or I hope someone offers Bledsoe $14M and you feel you have to match and overpay.

I'd like to pay Gordon $10m.


My honest guess... Phoenix offers him 0. Vescey is full of ****.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#42 » by Revived » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:23 am

I think if the Jazz piss of McDonough and continue to tank in such an obvious way, I can see him bringing Hayward here just to piss of the Jazz. :sarcasm:
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#43 » by RunDogGun » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:18 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:JazzFan Here-

I come in peace to talk Hayward.

He wants $12M plus.


Question= Hows much does phoenix offer him???????

Assume he has the same stats. 18ppg. Do you offer him $12M?? if so the Jazz will match, but anything over they balk.

Please don't be jerks and offer him too much, or I hope someone offers Bledsoe $14M and you feel you have to match and overpay.

I'd like to pay Gordon $10m.


We have no control over management. At the moment, we really have no idea how McD will use cap space, because so far he has only had a small amount, and he has used it in trades to gather up assets both present and future.

But to be fair, we gave you the pick that turned into Hayward, so it's only fair that we take him back. :wink:
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#44 » by SUN » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:52 pm

I love Gordon Hayward. He is a very good all around player, much like Jeff Green.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#45 » by GetYourPHX » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:51 pm

I like Gordon Hayward, but I wouldn't pay him significantly more than Evan Turner.

If the Suns are dead set on signing a 3, I hope they consider both options.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#46 » by Safety Pickle » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:45 pm

GetYourPHX wrote:I like Gordon Hayward, but I wouldn't pay him significantly more than Evan Turner.

If the Suns are dead set on signing a 3, I hope they consider both options.


Turner needs the ball to be effective. I don't think he would work here with Bledsoe running point
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#47 » by GetYourPHX » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:55 pm

Safety Pickle wrote:Turner needs the ball to be effective. I don't think he would work here with Bledsoe running point


I actually think one of the reasons that Turner is playing so much better this year is that he's improved his game playing off the ball and he's letting MCW create space for him. Hayward, on the other hand, is much more of a focal point of the offense in Utah.

If we're comparing the two, I'd say Hayward "needs the ball" more than Turner at this point. Sure, Turner isn't a great shooter, but that doesn't mean he has to have the ball in his hands to be effective.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#48 » by thamadkant » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:19 pm

Hayward can shoot... And handle the ball enough to penetrate and break down defenses.

Turner cannot shoot well at the arc... But can also handle the ball and penetrate.

With Bledsoe... And based on suns needs... theoretically ...Hayward is more suitable.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#49 » by SUN » Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:38 am

1UPZ wrote:Hayward can shoot... And handle the ball enough to penetrate and break down defenses.

Turner cannot shoot well at the arc... But can also handle the ball and penetrate.

With Bledsoe... And based on suns needs... theoretically ...Hayward is more suitable.

I agree with you entirely.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#50 » by Kerrsed » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:41 pm

I'd pass on Hayward.

Im keeping an eye on Jordan Hamilton. The kid was a beast defensively in college coming out of Texas. He has good fundamentals and can hit the 3 ball. He is starting to get some burn as the starting SF for the Nuggets with Gallo and Chandler out due to injury. Speaking of which, he reminds me alot of Wilson Chandler.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#51 » by Joel Embust » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:42 pm

GetYourPHX wrote:
Safety Pickle wrote:Turner needs the ball to be effective. I don't think he would work here with Bledsoe running point


I actually think one of the reasons that Turner is playing so much better this year is that he's improved his game playing off the ball and he's letting MCW create space for him. Hayward, on the other hand, is much more of a focal point of the offense in Utah.

If we're comparing the two, I'd say Hayward "needs the ball" more than Turner at this point. Sure, Turner isn't a great shooter, but that doesn't mean he has to have the ball in his hands to be effective.


Hayward is an excellent off the ball scorer. His spot up threepoint shot is one of the best in the league. Hayward needs a good PG to be effective without the ball and with John Lucas III he didn't really have that luxury. He just was their best playmaker until Burke came back two games ago.
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Re: Suns interested in Utah's Hayward. 

Post#52 » by SUN » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:42 pm

Kerrsed wrote:I'd pass on Hayward.

I'd pass on Terrence Williams. Your move.
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