Game 62: Suns @ Warriors

[RunDogGun]

Our defense is pathetic and really has been for a while. If we don't get steals and fast break buckets we seldom get stops.

According to Coro from a column he wrote today it is the worst stretch of defense for our team in 28 years, that would include 7SOL.

Who are our worst defenders?

Who are our best defenders?

IMO, it appears that everyone is playing hard but NO ONE is a good defender including Tucker.

We love our coach and we do have a defensive coordinator, Longabardi, that we didn't have when we thought we played bad defense. How do we fix this?

It's not tough to figure out why we aren't playing defense at the level we were before. Our guys are tired, and almost all of them aren't used to playing as many minutes as they are now. Tucker is a good defender, and our guys can play great team defense at times.

[INFORMER-93]

Right now in NBA pure centers are not a necessity anymore.

They sure get paid like they are.

[Revived]

Not to piss on anyone's parade but I think we should tamper our expectations about Bledsoe coming back and fixing all our problems. The last time he tore his meniscus with the Clippers, his per 36 season averages after returning from surgery was 10 pts, 5 rebounds. 5 assists, 2 steals and a block on a paltry 38% shooting from the field and awful 20% shooting from 3.

Its not easy coming back from surgery. Even with our training staff being so much better than other teams and everything. We can't expect him to go back to playing at the level he was playing pre injury. If he does play at that level or greater, then great, but I don't think we should count on him to be savior.

we don't need him to shoot and score lots of points, he needs to play defense

Even playing defense may be hard cause of his limited mobility for the time being.

[Wannabe MEP]

According to Coro from a column he wrote today it is the worst stretch of defense for our team in 28 years, that would include 7SOL.

Yeah...what does he mean? What "stretch"? How long of a stretch? PPG, or PPP? I'm not seeing this in the numbers, but I have no idea how he's cutting it.

I'm generally a Coro fan, but that's awful writing to not explain that more.

[Revived]

According to Coro from a column he wrote today it is the worst stretch of defense for our team in 28 years, that would include 7SOL.

Yeah...what does he mean? What "stretch"? How long of a stretch? PPG, or PPP? I'm not seeing this in the numbers, but I have no idea how he's cutting it.

I'm generally a Coro fan, but that's awful writing to not explain that more.

Its not awful writing at all, and for a man who loves stats as much as you, I'm surprised that you think that way.

The Suns’ defense has allowed 50 percent shooting in six consecutive games for the first time since the 1985-86 season. That team allowed 113 points per game and lost 50 times.

The Suns have allowed 52.1 percent shooting over the past eight games to tumble from ninth place in the NBA for defensive field goal percentage to 17th (45.6 percent for the season).

After giving up 20 third-quarter points in the paint Sunday and 50 in the game, the Suns are allowing the third most points in the paint per game (46.3) on the season.

http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/paulc ... -warriors/

Make that SEVEN consecutive games after the game vs LAC.

[Wannabe MEP]

Its not awful writing at all, and for a man who loves stats as much as you, I'm surprised that you think that way.

1. Bro, that's not the same article.
2. I guess he did mean FG%: that's NOT an acceptable conclusion to jump to "worst defensive stretch." Terrible use of stats.
3. "You like stats...and he used stats! You guys should totally be best friends." How ridiculous. Doctors and voodoo magicians should agree, right? Astronomers and astrologers should all get along, right? Gynecologists and porn stars... "Hey! You're both into vaginas! You must really appreciate each others' work... "

I exaggerate, of course, but that is NOT how I use stats. As I said, I'm generally a Coro fan, but I'm extremely particular about how stats are presented. That was absolutely unacceptable.

[RunDogGun]

"Both into vaginas"

[Revived]

Its not awful writing at all, and for a man who loves stats as much as you, I'm surprised that you think that way.

1. Bro, that's not the same article.
2. I guess he did mean FG%: that's NOT an acceptable conclusion to jump to "worst defensive stretch." Terrible use of stats.
3. "You like stats...and he used stats! You guys should totally be best friends." How ridiculous. Doctors and voodoo magicians should agree, right? Astronomers and astrologers should all get along, right? Gynecologists and porn stars... "Hey! You're both into vaginas! You must really appreciate each others' work... "

I exaggerate, of course, but that is NOT how I use stats. As I said, I'm generally a Coro fan, but I'm extremely particular about how stats are presented. That was absolutely unacceptable.

That is the same information, Coro stated the same thing in various articles. Why is FG % not an acceptable conlusion to judge the defense? Isn't that the best way to judge defenses since PPG can be manipulated through fast pace etc? Idk I'm just asking.

And ha my bad, shouldn't have generalized you just cause you use stats.

[Wannabe MEP]

Why is FG % not an acceptable conlusion to judge the defense? Isn't that the best way to judge defenses since PPG can be manipulated through fast pace etc? Idk I'm just asking.

Points per possession is the only option (or, equivalently, points per 100 possessions, often called "Defensive Rating").

FG% is nowhere near as good as eFG%, which is nowhere near as good as TS%, which is still nowhere near good enough because it doesn't factor in rebounding or turnovers (which really, really matter). So points per possession (and translated versions) is the only acceptable option.

I was curious, so I actually did look into this: in all of two minutes, I found a worse defensive 7 game stretch going by PPP. When? Last season. So we're in the midst of our worst defense stretch since...last season (March 22 to April 5, 2013 to be exact).