Game 25: Phoenix Suns (12-12) @ OKC Thunder (10-13)

[SlovenianDragon]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

Perkins made so many illegal screens it was crazy. Always sticking his butt out into people and sticking his arms out hanging people up.

And Durant hooks players everytime he drives.... We still played like crap but that stuff does annoy me. It was like the clippers game all over again.

[thamadkant]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

The clipper game... Jordan pushed Plumlee to a penetarting Chris Paul... looks like Suns defenders are scouted to simply push towards offensive player to get calls lol.

[thamadkant]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

Perkins made so many illegal screens it was crazy. Always sticking his butt out into people and sticking his arms out hanging people up.

And Durant hooks players everytime he drives.... We still played like crap but that stuff does annoy me. It was like the clippers game all over again.

Stars kinda know little dirty things they know they can get away with... and sticking up your butt during screen is perfectly legal assuming you werent moving or your legs are planted.... its defensive stance 101... play defence with legs (buttocks is part of that).

[SlovenianDragon]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

Perkins made so many illegal screens it was crazy. Always sticking his butt out into people and sticking his arms out hanging people up.

And Durant hooks players everytime he drives.... We still played like crap but that stuff does annoy me. It was like the clippers game all over again.

Stars kinda know little dirty things they know they can get away with... and sticking up your butt during screen is perfectly legal assuming you werent moving or your legs are planted.... its defensive stance 101... play defence with legs (buttocks is part of that).

No he would push people with his butt. To make room. If you set a pick and the defender tries to run behing you and u shove them with ur butt that isn't defense....

[RunDogGun]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

Perkins made so many illegal screens it was crazy. Always sticking his butt out into people and sticking his arms out hanging people up.

And Durant hooks players everytime he drives.... We still played like crap but that stuff does annoy me. It was like the clippers game all over again.

Perkins has always been like that. I don't know how he plays more than a few minutes, if he was called on every illegal screen. It just shows how tough it is to survive in this league when the one thing that should be fair, isn't.

But it has almost always been like that. Even in the Barkley years, when he was getting many calls, we still were hosed in the Chi series.

Side note, watching the Denver/SA game, and you could hear a woman say,"You suck Ginobli!"

[RunDogGun]

I wonder how much different the game would have been if the calls and no calls were reversed. It was embarrassing to watch Adams shove Green into Westbrook and Green pick up the foul. Anyone would get a tech after that bull.

I don't care if a team has superstars, you can't officiate a game fairly if you allow that. You can see it completely deflate our squad.

Now OKC shot great, and decent ball movement and off the ball movement, but the no calls on our end were ridiculous. In the bonus within three minutes in the first?

Perkins made so many illegal screens it was crazy. Always sticking his butt out into people and sticking his arms out hanging people up.

And Durant hooks players everytime he drives.... We still played like crap but that stuff does annoy me. It was like the clippers game all over again.

Stars kinda know little dirty things they know they can get away with... and sticking up your butt during screen is perfectly legal assuming you werent moving or your legs are planted.... its defensive stance 101... play defence with legs (buttocks is part of that).

But SlovDragon is talking about on the offensive end, why talk about defensive stance?

[Revived]

Wouldn't be ironic if the Suns pick was lower than the lakers pick?


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lol I was just thinking this the other day. Lakers right now are far more exciting to watch and also better than the Suns.

This game showed how we look without Dragic....yikes!

[thamadkant]

But SlovDragon is talking about on the offensive end, why talk about defensive stance?

The point was, players who plant their feet and stationary, offensive or defensive players running into them, the referee won't call it.
One of the first thing I've learnt when I was 11 years old, always stand wide, planted feet, anyone who runs into you its a no call.

Whats with the petty-ness?

You must love having arguments/debates over the tiniest things.

[Revived]

But SlovDragon is talking about on the offensive end, why talk about defensive stance?

You must love having arguments/debates over the tiniest things.

[Sunlight]

Westbrook wins jump ball over Alex Len https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAZLdmHw7ow

They have 25cm difference

Rebound King Rodman laughing right now.

[RunDogGun]

But SlovDragon is talking about on the offensive end, why talk about defensive stance?

The point was, players who plant their feet and stationary, offensive or defensive players running into them, the referee won't call it.
One of the first thing I've learnt when I was 11 years old, always stand wide, planted feet, anyone who runs into you its a no call.

Whats with the petty-ness?

You must love having arguments/debates over the tiniest things.

There wasn't anything petty. You just met Slov's comment, with an incorrect statement. Perkins sticks his butt out, meaning he is not set, but moving. It's illegal, and it has nothing to with defense, where one can move and not have it be illegal.

You commented, I commented, what is wrong with that? Why go personal, unless you have some sort of agenda, where you are the only one allowed to comment.

[RunDogGun]

But SlovDragon is talking about on the offensive end, why talk about defensive stance?

You must love having arguments/debates over the tiniest things.

Dude, don't pm me about any crap, and then do stuff like this. Madman went personal off me calling out his completely wrong assessment about an illegal offensive move by Perkins, stating how it's ok on defense. Then he goes into a story about what he was taught, that still has nothing to do with Perkin's illegal screens.

Now go back to your overreacting nonsense about us neglecting to develop our youth. You have to invent false things to argue over. Pot kettle hypocrite!

[Revived]

You must love having arguments/debates over the tiniest things.

Dude, don't pm me about any crap, and then do stuff like this. Madman went personal off me calling out his completely wrong assessment about an illegal offensive move by Perkins, stating how it's ok on defense. Then he goes into a story about what he was taught, that still has nothing to do with Perkin's illegal screens.

Now go back to your overreacting nonsense about us neglecting to develop our youth. You have to invent false things to argue over. Pot kettle hypocrite!

Easy tiger, calm down. Now you go back to your overreacting nonsense about us getting losing every game due to the refs and officiating.

[RunDogGun]

Dude, don't pm me about any crap, and then do stuff like this. Madman went personal off me calling out his completely wrong assessment about an illegal offensive move by Perkins, stating how it's ok on defense. Then he goes into a story about what he was taught, that still has nothing to do with Perkin's illegal screens.

Now go back to your overreacting nonsense about us neglecting to develop our youth. You have to invent false things to argue over. Pot kettle hypocrite!

Easy tiger, calm down. Now you go back to your overreacting nonsense about us getting losing every game due to the refs and officiating.

Where did I overreact about the officiating? It is a fact that we go to the line less than our opponents. If you want to disagree with that, go for it, but you'd be wrong. Our guards don't get equal treatment when they go to the hoop, compared to other teams that may or may not have stars. Again, not much to dispute. But maybe you are right, I should bring it up and say that is the reasons we lose games, like you wrongly assessed to me. Or better yet, make a stupid thread about a non existent issue like you did, and high five the other clueless fans that have no idea how to run a team.

Run along child, you give me gas.

[Scutt]

Or better yet, make a stupid thread about a non existent issue like you did, and high five the other clueless fans that have no idea how to run a team.

Run along child, you give me gas.

Its not a non existent issue, you are one of the few around here who seem to think it is. Most Suns fans have realized this team is not going anywhere, so there is no point not getting the young guys playing time.

1UPZ put it best a few pages back : "You cant have 27/28 year olds with limited ceiling playing majority of the minutes over the younger players when the team is a non-playoff team."

I remember you said you barley get to watch Suns games, and you mainly just get to look at box scores. That explains why you don't want to see Len, Goodwin, Warren, and Ennis get more time. Try watching a Suns game sometime! Green, Thomas, PJ, and the Morris bros are not fun and exciting to watch, and bottom line, they are NOT winning, yet you insist we keep rolling with these same players?

Do you still see this current roster "gelling" and becoming a legit playoff team, like you have been insisting the last few months? This current rotation isn't going to become a 4-7 seed, they will probably struggle for 8th and lose out to OKC. Why is being the 9th seed so important to you?

[RunDogGun]

Or better yet, make a stupid thread about a non existent issue like you did, and high five the other clueless fans that have no idea how to run a team.

Run along child, you give me gas.

Its not a non existent issue, you are one of the few around here who seem to think it is. Most Suns fans have realized this team is not going anywhere, so there is no point not getting the young guys playing time.

1UPZ put it best a few pages back : "You cant have 27/28 year olds with limited ceiling playing majority of the minutes over the younger players when the team is a non-playoff team."

I remember you said you barley get to watch Suns games, and you mainly just get to look at box scores. That explains why you don't want to see Len, Goodwin, Warren, and Ennis get more time. Try watching a Suns game sometime! Green, Thomas, PJ, and the Morris bros are not fun and exciting to watch, and bottom line, they are NOT winning, yet you insist we keep rolling with these same players?

Do you still see this current roster "gelling" and becoming a legit playoff team, like you have been insisting the last few months? This current rotation isn't going to become a 4-7 seed, they will probably struggle for 8th and lose out to OKC. Why is being the 9th seed so important to you?

I've been watching the Suns since 1978, clown! And I really don't care what Madman has to say, because he doesn't run this team, and very little of what he says is what the Suns do. I watched all our youngsters play the other night, and they weren't impressive at all.

I trust the coaching staff to at least know more than you, and the other whinny babies. Our youngsters are getting playing time, moreso than other teams, which has been pointed out to you and the other goofs. Oh well, probably put you on ignore, I haven't seen you post anything of quality. And I'm not shocked that you side with the other ones on my ignore list. But my fault for reading before I'm logged in, it just sucks when someone quotes you guys.

You must really get mad when the team NEVER does what you suggest.

[Revived]

Or better yet, make a stupid thread about a non existent issue like you did, and high five the other clueless fans that have no idea how to run a team.

Run along child, you give me gas.

Its not a non existent issue, you are one of the few around here who seem to think it is. Most Suns fans have realized this team is not going anywhere, so there is no point not getting the young guys playing time.

1UPZ put it best a few pages back : "You cant have 27/28 year olds with limited ceiling playing majority of the minutes over the younger players when the team is a non-playoff team."

I remember you said you barley get to watch Suns games, and you mainly just get to look at box scores. That explains why you don't want to see Len, Goodwin, Warren, and Ennis get more time. Try watching a Suns game sometime! Green, Thomas, PJ, and the Morris bros are not fun and exciting to watch, and bottom line, they are NOT winning, yet you insist we keep rolling with these same players?

Do you still see this current roster "gelling" and becoming a legit playoff team, like you have been insisting the last few months? This current rotation isn't going to become a 4-7 seed, they will probably struggle for 8th and lose out to OKC. Why is being the 9th seed so important to you?

Perfectly put.

I find it funny when someone complains over and over again about having to read post of posters who are on their ignore list due to not signing in first. Um, first of all there's an option called "sign me in automatically" on real GM which works on all computers and phones. Secondly, if that isn't an option for you then why not just sign in as soon as you log in?

I call BS. It's more about the posters not being able to get enough of the posters from his ignored list cause it's hard to have discussion when you have majority of the board on ignore with only 2-3 that you agree with as the visible posters