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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#101 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:42 pm

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NaturalBuns wrote:I hate knights game.

I wish the Suns never gave up those assets for him. Money could of been spent elsewhere

It's all well and good to say there were better options, but what were those options?

I'm pretty happy with it all.


I love pass first options so I was hopeful for Ennis, but he has seemed to disappear into obscurity anyway. As for the Lakers pick, who knows what that turns into. I'm sure the Lakers will get the #1 pick, draft Simmons, Kobe retires, and Russell improves, and they trot out Clarkson, Russell, Simmons, Randle and Hibbert next year and get the 13th pick....had we kept the pick people would be livid that again we had the 13th pick.
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#102 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 5, 2015 3:46 pm

Great and easy win, it was a MUST for us with them playing without Cousins, on the road and on a second night of back to back.

Bledsoe was the best player on the floor, he really has a better all around game this year. The game seems easy for him, and he controls everything when he is on the court. Defensively he was amazing last night too.

Chandler and Len dominated the paint and our advantage rebounding the ball is refreshing.

Now we need to win Detroit...Thank god we have Chandler to stay close to Drummond....25 points and 29 rebounds in his last game!
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#103 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 4:39 pm

batsmasher wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:I hate knights game.

I wish the Suns never gave up those assets for him. Money could of been spent elsewhere

It's all well and good to say there were better options, but what were those options?

I'm pretty happy with it all.


I love pass first options so I was hopeful for Ennis, but he has seemed to disappear into obscurity anyway. As for the Lakers pick, who knows what that turns into. I'm sure the Lakers will get the #1 pick, draft Simmons, Kobe retires, and Russell improves, and they trot out Clarkson, Russell, Simmons, Randle and Hibbert next year and get the 13th pick....had we kept the pick people would be livid that again we had the 13th pick.

But I was thinking last night about how I do miss the true pass first pg's we had with KJ, Kidd and Nash, where it just makes the game and the flow sometimes seem so effortless. Since we don't really have that, I guess having two guys that are pretty good passers somewhat makes up for it and they usually combine for as many or more assists than those other point guards would get. When their shots are on, it works well. When they are not, they really need to pass more. I don't really like it when our pgs our taking the majority of the shots, though I guess if you figure one is always operating as a SG, it's not as bad, though I'd like to see a little less of the PG taking down the ball, and then just dribbling a bit, and launching up a shot while the rest of the team watches.
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#104 » by jeff2020 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 4:55 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
batsmasher wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:I hate knights game.

I wish the Suns never gave up those assets for him. Money could of been spent elsewhere

It's all well and good to say there were better options, but what were those options?

I'm pretty happy with it all.


I love pass first options so I was hopeful for Ennis, but he has seemed to disappear into obscurity anyway. As for the Lakers pick, who knows what that turns into. I'm sure the Lakers will get the #1 pick, draft Simmons, Kobe retires, and Russell improves, and they trot out Clarkson, Russell, Simmons, Randle and Hibbert next year and get the 13th pick....had we kept the pick people would be livid that again we had the 13th pick.

But I was thinking last night about how I do miss the true pass first pg's we had with KJ, Kidd and Nash, where it just makes the game and the flow sometimes seem so effortless. Since we don't really have that, I guess having two guys that are pretty good passers somewhat makes up for it and they usually combine for as many or more assists than those other point guards would get. When their shots are on, it works well. When they are not, they really need to pass more. I don't really like it when our pgs our taking the majority of the shots, though I guess if you figure one is always operating as a SG, it's not as bad, though I'd like to see a little less of the PG taking down the ball, and then just dribbling a bit, and launching up a shot while the rest of the team watches.


When we are have our starting 5 in the game it seems Bledsoe and knight take 60% of th shots with kieff taking about 25% then split 15 between chandler and tucker. With that lineup I am fine with that. When TJ comes in along with price that seems to change. The ball movement is much crisper and a lot less sticking and ISO. I would love a pass first PG but the way this starting rotation is constructed I don't think that would help. Don't really want tucker and chandler who aren't that offensively talented taking shots away from the more talented offensive players. Unfortunately this is what it's gonna look like for a while and crossing my fingers it works
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#105 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 5:05 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
batsmasher wrote:It's all well and good to say there were better options, but what were those options?

I'm pretty happy with it all.


I love pass first options so I was hopeful for Ennis, but he has seemed to disappear into obscurity anyway. As for the Lakers pick, who knows what that turns into. I'm sure the Lakers will get the #1 pick, draft Simmons, Kobe retires, and Russell improves, and they trot out Clarkson, Russell, Simmons, Randle and Hibbert next year and get the 13th pick....had we kept the pick people would be livid that again we had the 13th pick.

But I was thinking last night about how I do miss the true pass first pg's we had with KJ, Kidd and Nash, where it just makes the game and the flow sometimes seem so effortless. Since we don't really have that, I guess having two guys that are pretty good passers somewhat makes up for it and they usually combine for as many or more assists than those other point guards would get. When their shots are on, it works well. When they are not, they really need to pass more. I don't really like it when our pgs our taking the majority of the shots, though I guess if you figure one is always operating as a SG, it's not as bad, though I'd like to see a little less of the PG taking down the ball, and then just dribbling a bit, and launching up a shot while the rest of the team watches.


When we are have our starting 5 in the game it seems Bledsoe and knight take 60% of th shots with kieff taking about 25% then split 15 between chandler and tucker. With that lineup I am fine with that. When TJ comes in along with price that seems to change. The ball movement is much crisper and a lot less sticking and ISO. I would love a pass first PG but the way this starting rotation is constructed I don't think that would help. Don't really want tucker and chandler who aren't that offensively talented taking shots away from the more talented offensive players. Unfortunately this is what it's gonna look like for a while and crossing my fingers it works


I guess when you put it that way it seems better. But I'd still probably go with more easy shots at the rim with Tyson. They don't always have to be lobs and dunks, but nonetheless, even if they are taking 60% of the shots, I'd like to see more of them from the guards at the rim as well.
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#106 » by jeff2020 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 5:17 pm

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jeff2020 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I love pass first options so I was hopeful for Ennis, but he has seemed to disappear into obscurity anyway. As for the Lakers pick, who knows what that turns into. I'm sure the Lakers will get the #1 pick, draft Simmons, Kobe retires, and Russell improves, and they trot out Clarkson, Russell, Simmons, Randle and Hibbert next year and get the 13th pick....had we kept the pick people would be livid that again we had the 13th pick.

But I was thinking last night about how I do miss the true pass first pg's we had with KJ, Kidd and Nash, where it just makes the game and the flow sometimes seem so effortless. Since we don't really have that, I guess having two guys that are pretty good passers somewhat makes up for it and they usually combine for as many or more assists than those other point guards would get. When their shots are on, it works well. When they are not, they really need to pass more. I don't really like it when our pgs our taking the majority of the shots, though I guess if you figure one is always operating as a SG, it's not as bad, though I'd like to see a little less of the PG taking down the ball, and then just dribbling a bit, and launching up a shot while the rest of the team watches.


When we are have our starting 5 in the game it seems Bledsoe and knight take 60% of th shots with kieff taking about 25% then split 15 between chandler and tucker. With that lineup I am fine with that. When TJ comes in along with price that seems to change. The ball movement is much crisper and a lot less sticking and ISO. I would love a pass first PG but the way this starting rotation is constructed I don't think that would help. Don't really want tucker and chandler who aren't that offensively talented taking shots away from the more talented offensive players. Unfortunately this is what it's gonna look like for a while and crossing my fingers it works


I guess when you put it that way it seems better. But I'd still probably go with more easy shots at the rim with Tyson. They don't always have to be lobs and dunks, but nonetheless, even if they are taking 60% of the shots, I'd like to see more of them from the guards at the rim as well.


Oh I agree 100% the shot selection has got to get better. I hate the 20 foot 2 point jumpers knight seems to love. Overalls bledsoes shot selection isn't that bad. I really love bledsoes game just wish he was a little better passer. And with Tyson he has just never been a guy to throw the ball to on the offensive end in his whole career. Unless he gets a lob or dunk his offensive game is non existent. Come to think of it I'm not sure I've ever seen attempt a jump hook. If tucker is on would like to see him get a few more looks on his corner 3s or short jumpers but other than that I don't think we have any other options with that lineup. Now insert booker when he's ready or warren and the shot distribution will look a ton different. No surprise last night in the 1st quarter when tucker picked up a quick 2 fouls and TJ came in our offense clicked instantly. But as long as tucker is in that starting lineup there's just no way around knight and Bledsoe dominating shots
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#107 » by Damkac » Thu Nov 5, 2015 8:46 pm

It's nice to beat a competitor in the playoffs race. I value wins against Utah, NO, Sac doubly.
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#108 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Nov 6, 2015 5:23 am

bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
batsmasher wrote:It's all well and good to say there were better options, but what were those options?

I'm pretty happy with it all.

Just face it, Suns RealGM message board 2015-2016 is the year of dissatisfaction. Or maybe that's just our board's disposition.


Yes, a few people that don't post any more (good posters) have PM'd to say they don't want to post because it has become so depressing and miserable here. I can somewhat understand because to me, being a fan makes me want to find things to be excited about as opposed to always looking for things to complain about. The Chargers, for example, are having a terrible year due to a ton of close losses, mostly to good teams, and although heartbreaking, that's just part of being a fan. I don't spend too much time complaining about them because what happens is out of my control. Sure I will complain here and there but I won't sound like a broken record with it...it's kind of pointless.


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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#109 » by Qwigglez » Fri Nov 6, 2015 5:41 am

I'm gonna start posting highlights of individual players once the games are done on here. Since I'm always watching them, I suppose other fans would enjoy them too.
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I like that Morris was looking for Warren on those early buckets he got. It looks like they got some good chemistry going, still waiting for Warren to start over Tucker.
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Re: Game 5: Suns vs. Kings 

Post#110 » by bwgood77 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 3:21 pm

grumpysaddle wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Just face it, Suns RealGM message board 2015-2016 is the year of dissatisfaction. Or maybe that's just our board's disposition.


Yes, a few people that don't post any more (good posters) have PM'd to say they don't want to post because it has become so depressing and miserable here. I can somewhat understand because to me, being a fan makes me want to find things to be excited about as opposed to always looking for things to complain about. The Chargers, for example, are having a terrible year due to a ton of close losses, mostly to good teams, and although heartbreaking, that's just part of being a fan. I don't spend too much time complaining about them because what happens is out of my control. Sure I will complain here and there but I won't sound like a broken record with it...it's kind of pointless.


I still lurk, but mostly what I see posted here is... Image
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On the bright side, at least we no longer have Shannon Brown.
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