What are your thoughts on Tyson Chandler?

[sunsfever68]

When we decided to trade for Knight and Morris developed into a solid big man, we were doomed not to make the lottery and get a high high pick to get a superstar through the draft.

We have our budding star in Len who will get mentored now by Chandler.

We overspent a little on Chandler, especially later in the last 2 years for a declining Tyson, but he's going to help a lot on and off the court.


We're 1 more star away from being a contender. How we acquire that star is going to be tough. Ideally we do it through free agency.

I really want Paul George on this team. I would give up Warren/Goodwin/Bogdanovic +picks for him.


Bledsoe/Knight/George/Morris/Chandler. That's nasty

[Damkac]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1409806&start=20

A few teams are already adopting this, but I think it will catch like wild fire:

Frontcourt Depth (Reducing the minutes of starting PFs and Centers)

In the modern NBA, so much of being a plus contributor at the 4/5 has to do with energy/force. The way bigs have to play now is extremely demanding (sprinting from end to end, screening, posting up, banging for boards, protecting the rim, etc.). As teams get smarter they will lessen the minutes their Bigs play and instead rotate five or six Bigs in each game to give bursts of energy. I also expect the great Bigs to be rested more frequently to preserve energy. Even if the reserve Bigs aren't nearly as talented as the starters, they merely need to do the grunt work well. If you can coach your bench Bigs to screen/defend/rebound at a high level for five minute stretches at a time it could be a major boon.

The Spurs ability to spell Timmy with Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, and others has been pivotal to his health in the post-season, and has boosted his efficiency as he's aged.

There is a reason why players like Paul George and Lebron don't want to play down. It is incredibly taxing on the body. As teams begin to better understand how to keep players healthy and how to increase efficiency we will probably see Bigs get reduced minutes across the league.

Reading this post I instantly thought about Chandler and Len. I hope minutes will be split about equally between them. Playing no more than about 25 minutes a game should help keep them healthy and rested during games.

[LukasBMW]

As much as the hype suggests that the NBA is now a "run and gun" "3 point shooting" league, I'd argue that the way to win still revolves around high percentage shots and defense.

I'll take ANY post oriented 4 over ANY "stretch 4" every day of the week.

I think the spacing argument is valid, but if we had a true post threat - a guy who can post up and not only hit a turn around jumper (like Keef) but also spin on the block and attack the rim (like Barkley or Garnet), I think spacing wouldn't matter.

We can still clear out the lane if we want to isolate TJ Warren or run pick and rolls for our guards.

My biggest gripe with guys like Keef and even LMA is that while they can hit the 17 footer with regularity, I'd rather have them operate on the low block. Points in the paint is how you win basketball games.

[plonden]

My biggest gripe with guys like Keef and even LMA is that while they can hit the 17 footer with regularity, I'd rather have them operate on the low block. Points in the paint is how you win basketball games.

Where does the center go if the power forward is on the low block? Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph work so well together because both players can operate out of the high and low blocks. If both players are on or near the low block it cuts of driving lanes and allows for easy doubles.

[LukasBMW]

My biggest gripe with guys like Keef and even LMA is that while they can hit the 17 footer with regularity, I'd rather have them operate on the low block. Points in the paint is how you win basketball games.

Where does the center go if the power forward is on the low block? Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph work so well together because both players can operate out of the high and low blocks. If both players are on or near the low block it cuts of driving lanes and allows for easy doubles.

Happened all the time in the 90's.

Think of Barkley and Mark West.

Barkley lived on the low block and West couldn't hit anything outside of 5 feet.

[blacksun]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1409806&start=20

A few teams are already adopting this, but I think it will catch like wild fire:

Frontcourt Depth (Reducing the minutes of starting PFs and Centers)

In the modern NBA, so much of being a plus contributor at the 4/5 has to do with energy/force. The way bigs have to play now is extremely demanding (sprinting from end to end, screening, posting up, banging for boards, protecting the rim, etc.). As teams get smarter they will lessen the minutes their Bigs play and instead rotate five or six Bigs in each game to give bursts of energy. I also expect the great Bigs to be rested more frequently to preserve energy. Even if the reserve Bigs aren't nearly as talented as the starters, they merely need to do the grunt work well. If you can coach your bench Bigs to screen/defend/rebound at a high level for five minute stretches at a time it could be a major boon.

The Spurs ability to spell Timmy with Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, and others has been pivotal to his health in the post-season, and has boosted his efficiency as he's aged.

There is a reason why players like Paul George and Lebron don't want to play down. It is incredibly taxing on the body. As teams begin to better understand how to keep players healthy and how to increase efficiency we will probably see Bigs get reduced minutes across the league.

Reading this post I instantly thought about Chandler and Len. I hope minutes will be split about equally between them. Playing no more than about 25 minutes a game should help keep them healthy and rested during games.

Very interesting. Curious to see if the Suns will adapt this strategy because a 5 man 4-5 rotation of Chandler/Len/Morris/Tele/Leuer is really solid.

[bwgood77]

He's probably been maybe our best true center, well, maybe ever. Alvin Adams was an all around better player, but for interior presence and rebounding, it's nice. Our teams in the mid 90s and 00s could have used him. Hopefully our team jells enough to where we are competitive and fun to watch and compete and that Len learns enough from him to be THAT guy on our next contender.

[Revived]

He's been somewhat of a disappointment production wise this season imo. But I'd like to think he's had some positive impact on Len.

[RunDogGun]

He's probably been maybe our best true center, well, maybe ever. Alvin Adams was an all around better player, but for interior presence and rebounding, it's nice. Our teams in the mid 90s and 00s could have used him. Hopefully our team jells enough to where we are competitive and fun to watch and compete and that Len learns enough from him to be THAT guy on our next contender.

I just think Chandler hasn't been healthy enough to make a difference. Maybe his legs just aren't strong enough, or he has been playing through injuries all season. Overall, if he can help the development of Len, I think he is worth it, even if we trade him before the deadline.

[bwgood77]

He's probably been maybe our best true center, well, maybe ever. Alvin Adams was an all around better player, but for interior presence and rebounding, it's nice. Our teams in the mid 90s and 00s could have used him. Hopefully our team jells enough to where we are competitive and fun to watch and compete and that Len learns enough from him to be THAT guy on our next contender.

I just think Chandler hasn't been healthy enough to make a difference. Maybe his legs just aren't strong enough, or he has been playing through injuries all season. Overall, if he can help the development of Len, I think he is worth it, even if we trade him before the deadline.

Well oh yeah, if he is tradeable. He looked MUCH better on November 7th,when I made the post you are quoting than he has since.

[saintEscaton]

No team would hamstring their financial flexibility to take on Chandler's unmovable 4 year $50 mill contract. We were the only suckas desperate enough to give him that money.Our medical staff is the closest thing to the Fountain of Youth and he's already wearing down. He's no longer that missing defensive anchor a contender would be willing to shell out in order to chase a title with a closing window of opportunity. He's already checked out knowing he's cashed in on his last paycheck before retirement at 37. Plus I don't think we will actively shop him because that would cast a bad light on McD and could hurt us with future FAs who would see it as a betrayal of trust.