Suns 4th most relevant team in AZ

Funky Tut · Post #1 » by **Funky Tut** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 5:09 am

Suns are now the 4th most relevant team in AZ IMO.

1. Cardinals- Superbowl caliber team, fantastic FO, good future

2.Diamondbacks- Just signed a top tier FA pitcher in Zac Greinke, fresh new uni's, a competent FO, and an already good offensive and defensive team that just lacked pitching.

3. Coyotes- Fantastic young players already making a difference, should be in the mix for a playoff spot, bright future.

4. Suns- Yuck, stuck in NBA mediocrity, cannot lure top end FA's to the team, chemistry problems, coaching problems, looks like they have taken a step back as a team. Have some good young prospects but looks like another season without the playoffs.

Post #2 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 5:57 am

It is interesting to think about, and I know many long time Suns fans don't pay attention any more and some say the only thing good about the team is Hornacek...but they don't watch due to disinterest. So I do wonder if Hornacek got fired and some other coach came in, and did worse, if the fan base would sink more.

I didn't think the fan bases of the DBacks and Coyotes were very strong, but I am not in Phx, so I don't know.

Obviously the Cards are the fan favorite now, which is crazy based on history pre-2007 or so. That is great to see. I am pulling for the Cards to win it all...would be fun.

RaisingArizona · Post #3 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:16 am

Whatever team is winning will get the fan support here. Yes, you can make projections but anything can happen and change rather quickly in sports. I wouldn't necessarily put the Coyotes or Diamondbacks over the Suns either. I don't remember them making the playoffs lately either. On paper they might have better future prospects but we all know on paper analysis doesn't always come to fruition.

Funky Tut · Post #4 » by **Funky Tut** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:32 am

All of the teams listed above the Suns currently have a brighter future, but that is subject to change. There is just not a lot of interest in the Suns right now, every home game has a ton empty seats, the product on the court is not that exciting. When I have a Suns game on and my wife who is not that interested in basketball says, "Wow, look at all those empty seats, sad" its pretty telling. I have been a Suns fan since 93' and I am so disinterested in this team, I long for the days when we were relevant. We are a franchise that has usually put a good product on the court, but we are fading fast and starting to become an irrelevant NBA franchise.

RaisingArizona · Post #5 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:43 am

I understand what you're saying. It definitely appears that the Diamondbacks and Coyotes are on the upswing. There's a lot of us here that think we're better than 8-12. I think we have some nice pieces here but obviously we have a few glaring holes as well. Cardinals are the only team guaranteed to make the playoffs in the near future. The rest of the teams still have a lot to prove.

DirtyDez · Post #6 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:49 am

The Diamondbacks just dropped their nuts on the table and outbid two major market teams for the top available free agent. They still have the prospects to land another TOTR starter. Things are looking very good for the Snakes but they still need bullpen help.

LukasBMW · Post #7 » by **LukasBMW** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:58 am

The Suns might even be behind the Rattlers now. LOL

Funky Tut · Post #8 » by **Funky Tut** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:59 am

DirtyDez wrote:The Diamondbacks just dropped their nuts on the table and outbid two major market teams for the top available free agent. They still have the prospects to land another TOTR starter. Things are looking very good for the Snakes but they still need bullpen help.

I think an issue is that the NBA lacks parity compared to other sports, that is my biggest gripe about professional basketball, there is just no damn parity in the NBA. It is the same super free agents going to large market teams with the exception of Lebron going to the Cadavers only because he's from Ohio, Cleveland has always been a door mat NBA franchise. There is a ton of parity in baseball, KC winning the WS, D-backs signing a top end free agent etc.

Post #9 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Dec 6, 2015 6:48 pm

Funky Tut wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:The Diamondbacks just dropped their nuts on the table and outbid two major market teams for the top available free agent. They still have the prospects to land another TOTR starter. Things are looking very good for the Snakes but they still need bullpen help.

I think an issue is that the NBA lacks parity compared to other sports, that is my biggest gripe about professional basketball, there is just no damn parity in the NBA. It is the same super free agents going to large market teams with the exception of Lebron going to the Cadavers only because he's from Ohio, Cleveland has always been a door mat NBA franchise. There is a ton of parity in baseball, KC winning the WS, D-backs signing a top end free agent etc.

I agree. That's one thing I hate about the NBA as well. It's like watching the same thing every year for 5 years until you get somewhat of a reset.

Another thing about the DBacks as opposed to the Suns. It's a lot harder to make the playoffs in baseball, so if the team is judged solely on making the playoffs, it is harder to get there.

Funky Tut · Post #10 » by **Funky Tut** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 12:06 am

I would say that GS winning the title was a little bit of parity considering they have been ass for the majority of the years I have been watching basketball. But its the league with probably the least amount of parity and the league where a superstar most likely does not go to a small market team.

Post #11 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 12:27 am

Funky Tut wrote:I would say that GS winning the title was a little bit of parity considering they have been ass for the majority of the years I have been watching basketball. But its the league with probably the least amount of parity and the league where a superstar most likely does not go to a small market team.

I think more in the sense that even before the season starts everyone talks about who will get the 7-8th seeds because six teams are usually a given, and those Lowe seeds VERY rarely win. That would never happen in other sports, and there are always surprise teams.

Revived · Post #12 » by **Revived** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:37 pm

Sounds about right.

letsgosuns · Post #13 » by **letsgosuns** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:57 pm

The Diamondbacks are definitely ahead of the Suns. No question. They have five all stars: Corbin, Goldschmidt, Greinke, Pollock, and Miller.

Suns do not even have one all star.

This is like a complete role reversal of the 1990's and 2000's. Cardinals appear to be the best run organization in Arizona. The Diamondbacks are second since Kendrick brought in La Russa and Stewart. Idk much about the Coyotes because I have never followed hockey. But the Suns are clearly last of the four major sports.

Funky Tut · Post #14 » by **Funky Tut** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:55 pm

letsgosuns wrote:The Diamondbacks are definitely ahead of the Suns. No question. They have five all stars: Corbin, Goldschmidt, Greinke, Pollock, and Miller.

Suns do not even have one all star.

This is like a complete role reversal of the 1990's and 2000's. Cardinals appear to be the best run organization in Arizona. The Diamondbacks are second since Kendrick brought in La Russa and Stewart. Idk much about the Coyotes because I have never followed hockey. But the Suns are clearly last of the four major sports.

Coyotes are loaded with young talent and are above .500. They have a very real chance of making the playoffs.