Robert $arver

[RunDogGun]

Under Sarver's tenure we signed both Steve Nash (who became a two time MVP) and Grant Hill. Both signed for less than their worth.

During that time, we didn't have a lot of extra cash to sign any big free agents, and now that we are rebuilding, many of the big named FA are going to established teams, or big market teams. So if you are ignoring these facts, then have at your silliness. But if you forgot this, then I'm glad I was here to remind you.

[bwgood77]

Heard another McDonough interview, basically hinted (very loosely) that his plan 2 years ago was to get top 5 picks, but other things got in the way, and we might get it this year, even if it took 2 extra years.

He's hinted at the past he's the only GM trying to contend and rebuild at the same time, usually teams do one or the other, so he has been handicapped.

Sarver's fingerprints all over those directives.

I think it's pretty clear that Sarver is fairly impatient. He's said so himself. But having said that, so is the fanbase.

About team culture, I was reading this interesting thing on MMQB (Peter King) yesterday about how the Cleveland Browns are bringing in a Chief Strategy officer, to be between the GM/Owner and create a culture change...it got me thinking about the Suns and how there is so much pressure, that the GM just signs assets for asset accumulation...players saying they don't know what their roles are.

Many blame Hornacek for this, but (of the the last year or two) when you have three point guards and now three small forwards all deserving of playing time it makes sense that players and fans of certain players are going to be upset about minute distribution or being played out of position just because they deserve to be on the court.

I just really hope we make some moves soon and after that, things stay constant for a bit to develop continuity and rythmn over the next year and beyond.

[TeamTragic]

Heard another McDonough interview, basically hinted (very loosely) that his plan 2 years ago was to get top 5 picks, but other things got in the way, and we might get it this year, even if it took 2 extra years.

He's hinted at the past he's the only GM trying to contend and rebuild at the same time, usually teams do one or the other, so he has been handicapped.

Sarver's fingerprints all over those directives.

I think it's pretty clear that Sarver is fairly impatient. He's said so himself. But having said that, so is the fanbase.

About team culture, I was reading this interesting thing on MMQB (Peter King) yesterday about how the Cleveland Browns are bringing in a Chief Strategy officer, to be between the GM/Owner and create a culture change...it got me thinking about the Suns and how there is so much pressure, that the GM just signs assets for asset accumulation...players saying they don't know what their roles are.

Many blame Hornacek for this, but (of the the last year or two) when you have three point guards and now three small forwards all deserving of playing time it makes sense that players and fans of certain players are going to be upset about minute distribution or being played out of position just because they deserve to be on the court.

I just really hope we make some moves soon and after that, things stay constant for a bit to develop continuity and rythmn over the next year and beyond.

Does Sarver understand that his impatience is sabotaging this team? Nobody blames Hornacek for the players he puts on the floor however playing Tucker heavy minutes makes zero sense right now. Everyone is aware that he is limited to the what McD/Babby give him as far as a functioning team. Instead he is being blamed because he is an average coach.

I'm sure he is a great person but the best coaches in this league are ****. They get on you and motivate you to be a better player.

That is why Thibs should be brought it just to punish the players. Knight lacks discipline and so does Kieff. Len has been non-existant and Chandler doesn't understand why he is even there. There is massive confusion. Nobody knows their role and overall this franchise is dysfunctional from top to bottom.

Hit the reset button and work with Booker/Warren/Len and Bogdan when he is brought over. Everyone else (except maybe not Bledsoe) should be made available.

[bwgood77]

Hit the reset button and work with Booker/Warren/Len and Bogdan when he is brought over. Everyone else (except maybe not Bledsoe) should be made available.

Wanting to trade Archie now?

[LukasBMW]

Under Sarver's tenure we signed both Steve Nash (who became a two time MVP) and Grant Hill. Both signed for less than their worth.

During that time, we didn't have a lot of extra cash to sign any big free agents, and now that we are rebuilding, many of the big named FA are going to established teams, or big market teams. So if you are ignoring these facts, then have at your silliness. But if you forgot this, then I'm glad I was here to remind you.

Nash was recruited by Colangelo. Sarver admitted that he shadowed Jerry during the process and it was a learning experience. Sarver, Amare, and Colangelo made the trip to Dallas and Jerry Colangelo did most of the talking.

Grant Hill was expected to be completely washed up when we signed him. He hadn't been able to stay healthy for years. He left Orlando for the chance to win a ring and our training staff.

[TeamTragic]

Hit the reset button and work with Booker/Warren/Len and Bogdan when he is brought over. Everyone else (except maybe not Bledsoe) should be made available.

Wanting to trade Archie now?

Only if we get Adams in return

[RunDogGun]

Under Sarver's tenure we signed both Steve Nash (who became a two time MVP) and Grant Hill. Both signed for less than their worth.

During that time, we didn't have a lot of extra cash to sign any big free agents, and now that we are rebuilding, many of the big named FA are going to established teams, or big market teams. So if you are ignoring these facts, then have at your silliness. But if you forgot this, then I'm glad I was here to remind you.

Nash was recruited by Colangelo. Sarver admitted that he shadowed Jerry during the process and it was a learning experience. Sarver, Amare, and Colangelo made the trip to Dallas and Jerry Colangelo did most of the talking.

Grant Hill was expected to be completely washed up when we signed him. He hadn't been able to stay healthy for years. He left Orlando for the chance to win a ring and our training staff.

Nash was still Sarver's first big FA signing. Grant Hill was still a desired FA, and was offered more money elsewhere. So again, we have had large FAs both sign here and desire to sign here, even when we didn't have money to give them.

[letsgosuns]

Robert Sarver has not made one trade for a young superstar or signed a young superstar free agent his entire ownership tenure so far. Look at his moves. The biggest move he made was trading for a soon to be retired Shaquille O'Neal.

Steve Nash was 100% Colangelo and the comfort level Nash had with the foundation of the front office and team. Every one of those guys is gone now. Sarver had nothing to do with Nash coming to Phoenix. Sure he opened his pocketbook but Idk any owner in the league who would not have in that situation.

The Suns offer financially blew everyone else's away. It was not even close. Cuban did not want to come close to that contract offer from the Suns.

Grant Hill? Idk what is going through your mind if you think signing a guy that barely played for seven years was a big splash. He signed for less money? So what. He had just finished a seven year maximum contract and barely played during the contract. He was also considered the most disappointing free agent signing of all time since he basically never played for the Magic. Plus he was pretty old by the time he signed with the Suns. Anyway, he did not choose the Suns because Sarver convinced him. He chose the Suns because of Nash and the team was a contender.

Colangelo was always making things happen with trades or free agent signings and the Suns were competitive and had quality players at all times. Sarver has taken flyers on guys like Beasley, Tucker, and the Morris brothers. These are not only mediocre players, but low character guys with lots of off the court problems. Colangelo would never put up with the stuff they pulled.

In addition, Ken Kendrick never did anything with the Diamondbacks until this current offseason by finally signing arguably the top free agent on the market in Greinke. But Kendrick did something great prior to that. He hired a baseball legend in Tony La Russa to oversee everything. It is time for Sarver to do that. Fire everyone and I mean EVERYONE that put this team together and pay some basketball legends with championship pedigree to remake this team. It has to be done because this current incarnation of management is atrocious. Nothing else to say about them.