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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#981 » by Stix » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:52 pm

Here are my guys and my justifaction in picking them and where they got picked:

1st Round:
PF - Kristaps Porzingis
It was somewhat of a reach, but I really wanted to start the draft off with a young high-upside guy. Doesn't get much better than KP. Your first pick really dictates how the rest of your draft shakes out, so I ended up with a very youthful squad, but I made sure the production would be there.

2nd Round:
PG - D'Angelo Russell
Ditto on D'lo... young high upside guy to go along with KP. This seemed to spark a youth movement for some people in the draft, since people started to catch onto what I was doing here.

3rd Round:
C - Jonas Valuncias
This was supposed to throw off some people, and make it seem like I wasn't going for youth. Albeit, JV is only 24, but I thought he was a lot older. I also figured people were using TASTIC's rankings, which I didn't agree with where he put JV, so he flew a bit under the radar. My anchor for FG%.

4th Round:
G - Dennis Schroeder
He fell to me. I would have taken him here even if this was a redraft league. My best value of the draft.

5th Round:
F - Marquese Chriss
I think we all remember this one. He had that huge game, and I couldn't pass on him. He and Booker will be the cornerstones of the Suns for years to come. He might not be ready to contribute a ton at the start but watch out next year. I addressed this issue later on.

6th Round:
SG - Gary Harris
Another good value on a guy that gives me everything I could want out of a SG. He is also only like 22. (see Dennis Schroeder)

7th Round:
SF - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
My steals anchor. I also thought I got great value here since I got him at relatively the same time as I got him in Premier league. Also young.

8th Round:
U - DeRon Williams
This is where my main strategy came into play, with 7 good keepers already, I chose to go for some vets after... although there weren't as many as I thought there would be after I made this pick. Oh well. Got good value on him anyway.

9th Round:
U - Seth Curry
Handcuff to Deron, and also might end up becoming a Keeper if one of the above doesn't pan out.

10th Round:
B - Terrence Jones
Just in case Chriss is inconsistant to start... T Jones will fill in until he figures it out.

11th Round:
B - Guillermo Hernangómez
Got this to handcuff KP, and he has a ton of upside, might end up being a keeper who knows?

12th Round:
B - Solomon Hill
Needed another SF since the only other one I have is RHJ (damn you ESPN!) He will get plenty of opportunity while Tyreke is out, and might even still put up number after that. Yes please. Also... UofA alum : :D

I'm pretty happy with the way things turned out for me. I got a lot of youth and upside, and might even compete THIS year. I also figured younger guys would be easier to work out in trades... no one wants to trade for an old guy in Dynasty.
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Re: RE: Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#982 » by bwgood77 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:53 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Realizing i was severly lacking in the Guard department, i had to go after who ever was left. It was a toss up between Monte Ellis and Eric Gordon. I had Gordon all typed up and was waiting on the next 2 people to pick so i could hit post, but changed my mind at the last second.


I can't believe you had Eric Gordon typed up and changed at the last minute. I really needed assists and he gets some, plus steals and 3s, and had a list of three (Deron Williams and Biyombo because I thought he had dropped to far) with 4 before me at the time and my 2nd and 3rd choices went, then Harrell went, and then you took Ellis. I had no idea what to do so I ended up reaching for Dellavedova. But the more I think about it, I think he might get more assists than Ellis anyway. They got about the same last year and Monta is now playing with Teague instead of Hill (who doesn't get many assists) and Dellavedova is playing with the Greek Freak instead of LeBron and Kyrie. I know Giannis is PG, but I bet Delly still gets 5-6 apg. But his points won't be nearly as good...or probably his steals.
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#983 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:09 am

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I think some teams may have gone a little overboard on the youth vs win now thing.

We're keeping 7 guys - so how long are you waiting for those young guys at 5-6-7 to be contributors before The Process repeats itself?
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Exactly what i was trying to point out.

Well, I think it depends on what they demonstrate. Like I said, I feel confident in 5 keepers, so I've got 2-3 spots that are "play-in". I'm most likely to keep Bender with one of those, so it's more like 1 or 2 spots. Covington is a nice 3s, rebounds and steals guy, but there are enough of those guys that I don't feel like I need to keep him. Pau is getting older, his numbers are definitely going to slide from last season, maybe more than I'm anticipating, but he could still play well enough to keep around. I also got a kind of handcuff in Kyle Anderson (Lee might produce more this season, but I think Anderson will be a big part of this core moving forward). Frazier will do pretty well early, but might lose his job to Holiday or Tyreke when they return or might solidify himself as a starter in Nawlins. Valentine might end up contributing this season, or he might not, but I think could put up numbers similar to Batum eventually. McCaw is a young player who might have Steph/KD/Klay/Draymond rub off on him similar to Rondo did with KG, Ray and Pierce.

I mean, you'll get 4-5 new players each season to "course correct" should your experiments fail. Even with how deep this league it, there are still some fine end of the fantasy rotation guys available. And maybe if the NBA expands with two more teams, Archie Goodwin will become an incredibly valuable fantasy player. :wink:
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Re: RE: Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#984 » by Kerrsed » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 am

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Kerrsed wrote:Realizing i was severly lacking in the Guard department, i had to go after who ever was left. It was a toss up between Monte Ellis and Eric Gordon. I had Gordon all typed up and was waiting on the next 2 people to pick so i could hit post, but changed my mind at the last second.


I can't believe you had Eric Gordon typed up and changed at the last minute. I really needed assists and he gets some, plus steals and 3s, and had a list of three (Deron Williams and Biyombo because I thought he had dropped to far) with 4 before me at the time and my 2nd and 3rd choices went, then Harrell went, and then you took Ellis. I had no idea what to do so I ended up reaching for Dellavedova. But the more I think about it, I think he might get more assists than Ellis anyway. They got about the same last year and Monta is now playing with Teague instead of Hill (who doesn't get many assists) and Dellavedova is playing with the Greek Freak instead of LeBron and Kyrie. I know Giannis is PG, but I bet Delly still gets 5-6 apg. But his points won't be nearly as good...or probably his steals.



Yup, i had zero SG's and 2 PG's (CP3 and Murray, who will take some time). I almost grabbed Gordon at #112 becaus him in a Dantoni offense is absolutely perfect for him. Once i saw Mudiay was still on the board i started thinking that Mudiay could get me more assists (which i was really lacking in) than Gordon, and there would be a real good chance that Gordon would be around for my next pick (#120). Like i said, i had it all typed up, picture and everything, but started 2nd guessing his minutes and his injury history. Last second changed it to Ellis, but left the tab open with the typed up Gordon pick, as i figured he could continue to slide and i still had a chance at getting him.

Once my next pick rolled around, i started looking at my team and saw i still needed assists, but needed blocks more. I started looking at everyones rosters and trying to predict what postion they were gunning for, and figured i had a real good chance at Gordon continuing his slide. I mean, he's old, big injury risk, and is coming off the bench. All the other guys fitting those requirements were either sliding or not getting picked, so i went with a guy i am really high on this year, Noah. Sure the guy isnt a major scoring threat, but i have enough of those guys. I think with him being in his hometown, playing under Horney, and being the healthiest he has been in a while, he will revitalize his career. So im going to take the C that can get me 10 rebounds/4 assists/ and a block or two on any given night. When Noah;s on point, he is a rare breed of player that majorly helps teams in roto.

Now this is like 3 days since i was originally going to take Gordon. Tab is STILL OPEN. Told myself, he is the one. Just like Kevin Costner in Draft Day, i had a sticky note that said, "Eric Gordon No Matter What". Hell, i even already had him photoshopped into my team pick. But he was swooped up just 4 picks after i took Noah, then hours after that news broke that PatBev might be getting surgery and Gordon is the new starter in HOU. Well, s**t on me!
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Re: RE: Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#985 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:14 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Realizing i was severly lacking in the Guard department, i had to go after who ever was left. It was a toss up between Monte Ellis and Eric Gordon. I had Gordon all typed up and was waiting on the next 2 people to pick so i could hit post, but changed my mind at the last second.


I can't believe you had Eric Gordon typed up and changed at the last minute. I really needed assists and he gets some, plus steals and 3s, and had a list of three (Deron Williams and Biyombo because I thought he had dropped to far) with 4 before me at the time and my 2nd and 3rd choices went, then Harrell went, and then you took Ellis. I had no idea what to do so I ended up reaching for Dellavedova. But the more I think about it, I think he might get more assists than Ellis anyway. They got about the same last year and Monta is now playing with Teague instead of Hill (who doesn't get many assists) and Dellavedova is playing with the Greek Freak instead of LeBron and Kyrie. I know Giannis is PG, but I bet Delly still gets 5-6 apg. But his points won't be nearly as good...or probably his steals.



Yup, i had zero SG's and 2 PG's (CP3 and Murray, who will take some time). I almost grabbed Gordon at #112 becaus him in a Dantoni offense is absolutely perfect for him. Once i saw Mudiay was still on the board i started thinking that Mudiay could get me more assists (which i was really lacking in) than Gordon, and there would be a real good chance that Gordon would be around for my next pick (#120). Like i said, i had it all typed up, picture and everything, but started 2nd guessing his minutes and his injury history. Last second changed it to Ellis, but left the tab open with the typed up Gordon pick, as i figured he could continue to slide and i still had a chance at getting him.

Once my next pick rolled around, i started looking at my team and saw i still needed assists, but needed blocks more. I started looking at everyones rosters and trying to predict what postion they were gunning for, and figured i had a real good chance at Gordon continuing his slide. I mean, he's old, big injury risk, and is coming off the bench. All the other guys fitting those requirements were either sliding or not getting picked, so i went with a guy i am really high on this year, Noah. Sure the guy isnt a major scoring threat, but i have enough of those guys. I think with him being in his hometown, playing under Horney, and being the healthiest he has been in a while, he will revitalize his career. So im going to take the C that can get me 10 rebounds/4 assists/ and a block or two on any given night. When Noah;s on point, he is a rare breed of player that majorly helps teams in roto.

Now this is like 3 days since i was originally going to take Gordon. Tab is STILL OPEN. Told myself, he is the one. Just like Kevin Costner in Draft Day, i had a sticky note that said, "Eric Gordon No Matter What". Hell, i even already had him photoshopped into my team pick. But he was swooped up just 4 picks after i took Noah, then hours after that news broke that PatBev might be getting surgery and Gordon is the new starter in HOU. Well, s**t on me!


I got Gordon pretty late in premier. **** I might have Monta Ellis too. Can't remember.
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#986 » by Kerrsed » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:21 am

Also, another thing i did (Which i wasnt going to let anyone know until after the draft), i used the Yahoo Premier League for help.

I cleared my watch list, and started tagging the guys that i drafted in there, so i could have all the stats right there in front of my, making it a lot easier to keep track of what categories i was set in and which ones i was falling behind in. Then i would add 3 targets to my watch list, and if one got drafted, i took him off the list and replaced him with someone else. Since we couldnt really keep track and see the stuff like that in the ESPN, it made it very very helpful. Im a visual learner, lol.

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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#987 » by Stix » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:53 am

Don't like Eric Gordon all that much, he often injured and Mike D loves those short rotations. I think he will be wearing a suit and tie by the all star break.. Also add to that Harden is a ballhog so most of his looks might just be spot up Js. Good for threes, but no thanks.
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#988 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:01 am

Kerrsed wrote:Also, another thing i did (Which i wasnt going to let anyone know until after the draft), i used the Yahoo Premier League for help.

I cleared my watch list, and started tagging the guys that i drafted in there, so i could have all the stats right there in front of my, making it a lot easier to keep track of what categories i was set in and which ones i was falling behind in. Then i would add 3 targets to my watch list, and if one got drafted, i took him off the list and replaced him with someone else. Since we couldnt really keep track and see the stuff like that in the ESPN, it made it very very helpful. Im a visual learner, lol.

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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#989 » by Qwigglez » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:47 am

Here was my strategy...
I wanted to build for the future but also have a competitive team every year. Taking Greek Freak wasn't a reach at all IMO, I was left choosing him or Westbrook and I was wary of taking Westbrook because of injury concern even though he helped me win a cash league last year.
For my 2nd pick I knew Booker wasn't going to last til my 3rd round pick so I had to take him. After taking Greek Freak in the 1st I had my eyes set on Booker the entire time and I am so glad nobody else took him. Booker will be putting up McCollum like numbers this year so he should be a 3rd-4th round pick in standard leagues anyway. ;)
With my 3rd pick I was considering taking Jonas V but looking at Tastic's ranking I figured I could snag him with my 4th rounder. I also changed my mind last minute and instead of taking Al Horford went with Batum. I did this because Batum and Greek Freak both put up stats in multiple categories so I thought this was a good strategy.
My 5th pick I took Zach Lavine. I was really considering taking Chriss. Like, I wanted to take him but I thought he would last til my next pick and I didn't want to make such a huge reach. Then of course he puts up this stellar game so Zero steals my pick twice now! I like Lavine though and I feel like he can put up some solid numbers this year. He looks great in preseason so far. I just wish he (and Booker) would post some more boards/assists and even steals.
Trey Lyles was my 6th rounder but really I had trouble in this round. I didn't know who to take and I really don't like the situation he has in Utah. I'm hoping Favors gets moved because Lyles would fit in perfectly with Gobert I think. Regardless, I like his upside. Not sure he will contribute a lot this year so I'm likely going to stash him on my bench and keep him for the future.
7th round pick: Darren Collison. After seeing him continue to fall after BW changed his last pick last pick I knew BW had his sights set on him in this round. I wanted to mess with Bdub but also I needed assists badly since my guards are Lavine and Booker. He's a bit older than the rest of my keepers but he's in a contract year.
After deciding my 1st seven picks would likely be my keepers I wanted to take players that can contribute immediately so I took Dirk. I think I got a huge steal since last year he posted top 40-45 stats. JJ Redick was another guy I felt was overlooked and being in a contract year I think he'll post some career numbers. Also, in case Lavine doesn't get the minutes he deserves Redick can take over his spot. Z-Bo was added to give me some boards/points on solid FG%.

Really enjoyed my first dynasty draft in any sport. Thought I did a good job of not reaching too hard.
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#990 » by MathiasPW » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:54 am

Lol wut!? I don't have an active Center as Miles Turner is listed as PF...
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#991 » by Phystic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:06 am

Really wanted Gobert or Drummond, but both got swooped up right before my pick. Think it was Drummond that BW really pulled a fast one on me too.
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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#992 » by Kerrsed » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:13 am

MathiasPW wrote:Lol wut!? I don't have an active Center as Miles Turner is listed as PF...


You do have Festus Ezeli, who is injured, thus allowing you to place him on the IR and picking up another C for the meantime.
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Post#993 » by Phystic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:15 am

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MrMiyagi wrote:I think it's a pretty good pick that late. If we keep 7 or 8 players, I think that having one player who can possibly contribute to all 8 categories but it won't be until year 3 is worth a pick in the 9th round of a 16 team draft. Especially considering Brandon Ingram and Dario Saric went in rounds 4 and 5 respectively. McCaw/Anderson are really the picks that I maybe should have reconsidered. I feel like Durant, Hayward, Bledsoe, Carmelo and Gasol the Younger are my keepers for sure, so there are 2-3 spots up for grabs. Plus I'm not going to be heartbroken dropping guys I gambled on in rounds 9-12 should a waiver-wire gem emerge.


I feel like I need to be offended by this, seeing as both of those were my picks :lol:

Haha, I noticed that too after I had found what rounds they went. Both will have much greater opportunity this season than Bender will likely have, but I take it you took them more for what their production could be down the line than their production this season. Ben Simmons is another pick that might not be for this season, though when he recovers he'll be much further along than Bender.


Ya I picked them to get a couple of potentially high upside guys. They don't necessarily have the star potential of some of the bigger name rookies and sophs. But I think Ingram and Okafor could be All-Stars in the league during their careers and Saric could be a decent starter. Figured it was worth the chance.

I didn't plan on going win now at any point, but I didn't really plan on going essentially all youth. I definitely got lost in this draft. Oh well.
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Post#994 » by MathiasPW » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:04 am

Kerrsed wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:Lol wut!? I don't have an active Center as Miles Turner is listed as PF...


You do have Festus Ezeli, who is injured, thus allowing you to place him on the IR and picking up another C for the meantime.

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Post#995 » by MathiasPW » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:07 am

Celebrated too soon. He is listed as Out, not Injured.

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Re: Dynasty Draft Complete 

Post#996 » by MrMiyagi » Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:00 am

MathiasPW wrote:Celebrated too soon. He is listed as Out, not Injured.

ESPN is bad, man, very bad.

You can place Out players on IR. You have to click on Manage IR up top on My Team
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Post#997 » by MathiasPW » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:07 am

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MathiasPW wrote:Celebrated too soon. He is listed as Out, not Injured.

ESPN is bad, man, very bad.

You can place Out players on IR. You have to click on Manage IR up top on My Team

I found that out way before you told me, so, for the record, you didn't help me and still owe me one for the Gallinari pick
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Post#998 » by MathiasPW » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:11 am

MathiasPW wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:Celebrated too soon. He is listed as Out, not Injured.

ESPN is bad, man, very bad.

You can place Out players on IR. You have to click on Manage IR up top on My Team

I found that out way before you told me, so, for the record, you didn't help me and still owe me one for the Gallinari pick

I was also able to take Bosh into the 2nd IR spot, which I believe to be a very shrewd move. Free option for a top player in case he manages to get back.
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