Game 70: Phoenix Sun (19-50) at Utah Jazz (38-30), Thursday, 3/15, 6PM MST

[Damkac]

Payton playing really bad lately. If he continues playing like that I do not want him even on a low salary for next season.

I want to bring back for next season Booker, Warren, Jackson and Bender. Just that. Bender has next season to try to show us that he can be a solid player in this league.

The rest of the roster is pure garbage. Bad to mediocre players.

I was going to say that. I wish we could get rid of everyone other that the 4 players you mentioned and build a real team around that core. If we would replace everyone with random G-League dudes would we really be worse than now?

And yes, I want Payton and his dumb hair gone.

So tired of those 20+ points losses. We need changes, starting with hiring a good coach.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Future All-Stars - Booker, Jackson
Replacement Level - Warren
Irrelevent - Payton, Bender, Chriss, Daniels, Reed, Ulis, Chandler, Dudley, Knight, Daniels, Len, Williams.

Having said that I'd like to see what the right coach could do with some of them.

[Son of Ra]

Can we just give Popovich, Snyder, Carlisle or any other of the top coaches a max contract?

[Revived]

But then we would've had to pay Bogdan's hefty $10M/year!!!
!!!

It’s $7M/yr and that contract is still better than Knight’s and maybe even Warren’s since Bogdan isn’t as one dimensional of a player as Warren.

The point you are missing is that Bogdan wouldnt agree to play for the Suns. He didnt want to be behind Bledsoe, Knight and Booker in the guard rotation.

He would’ve eventually came here no matter what unless he’s bold enough to pass on $30M PLUS more that he will make after that contract.

[Revived]

Games like this make it really hard to be hopeful of the future.

I know Jay Triano has his fans but I’m sure if we look up in Suns history, no Suns team has suffered more 25 pt+ blowouts in a season than Triano’s Suns this year. I’m sure he’s top 5-10 all time in losses by that large of a margin for the season.

I get it that the Suns are rebuilding but are these other rebuilding teams like the Kings, Mavs, Lakers etc suffering losss by this large of a margin as frequently as the Suns are?

[Saberestar]

Games like this make it really hard to be hopeful of the future.

I know Jay Triano has his fans but I’m sure if we look up in Suns history, no Suns team has suffered more 25 pt+ blowouts in a season than Triano’s Suns this year. I’m sure he’s top 5-10 all time in losses by that large of a margin for the season.

I get it that the Suns are rebuilding but are these other rebuilding teams like the Kings, Mavs, Lakers etc suffering losss by this large of a margin as frequently as the Suns are?

I want Sarver out, but that is not possible...so the next big epic fail is McDonough who has had five years and he had not make any progress at all.

Fire McDonough.

I could not believe that Sarver gave him an extension this past summer, it was ridiculous at that moment and even more right now.

[handsome salary]

I have the replay on for a couple of minutes this morning since there is no concern to even watch it live. Saw the ejections. Suns down 20. Turned it off.
Unless there is some true impact player another team is looking to get rid of quick, this organization is not going to attract a quality free agent with how this team is run and built. The league, sports media and nba fans all know the Suns are the absolute biggest joke of franchise. Trotting out former successful players for the 50th is depressing.

[thamadkant]

Finally saw the game..

Get Chriss out of the team, dumbest $hit I've ever seen.
Number 1, he goes for a dunk, sure Gobert had his hand on him, could have gone 50/50 foul.. but no foul, so he falls probably hoping he got a foul called on Gobert... nada.

Dudley, WTF... pushes an innocent bystander... then Chriss comes running from the back and rams Rubio.. who is about 100 pounds lighter than Dudley already and about 3 inches shorter... yah Chriss.. Dudley really really needed your "toughness"

Ship this bum out for a cheese grater couldnt care.





Now, I've realize the team is EVEN playing MORE for themselves as of late I've noticed. This has affected Payton and Booker to an extent, also Shaq playing more minutes has taken a toll on Payton's role.


Triano's just counting the days so he can go fishing.... he's just in it for the pay check at the moment, just a rotation manager at this point.

[thamadkant]

Why did Chriss get ejected? I was watching Ayton getting blown by on defense repeatedly.

He took off too early on a dunk and fell a little hard (no foul called - looked like a mistime/chair pull). The Duds got into it with Rubio (who wasn't even near the play) a little bit and Quese just came across and pushed Rubio to the floor.

https://streamable.com/lfv5s

I rewatched that play like 7 times and couldn't understand why Dudley got into it with Rubio and why Chriss came in for no reason. Seriously, no one touched Chriss and he just totally flunked that dunk attempt on his own

I think Dudley wanted to get ejected, when he saw the bum Chriss tries to dunk it too fanciful... he just had it and wanted to get kicked out so picked on Rubio... then Chriss comes running lol. Had Dudley not been kicked out and it was Chriss instead, Dudley would have probably tackled Ingles next play to get outta there... this team stinks.

[thamadkant]

Have no idea how Gobert is allowed to get away with all the moving screens and holds. He's the new Draymond Green.

because he's a smart player and doesnt bitch to the refs every second like Chriss does as if he's earned years it in the league.

Look at Josh Jackson, referees have been kind to some games as a rookie, because now he talks to them nicely after calls he doesnt like.

Gobert is no way near like Green.

[lilfishi22]

He took off too early on a dunk and fell a little hard (no foul called - looked like a mistime/chair pull). The Duds got into it with Rubio (who wasn't even near the play) a little bit and Quese just came across and pushed Rubio to the floor.

https://streamable.com/lfv5s

I rewatched that play like 7 times and couldn't understand why Dudley got into it with Rubio and why Chriss came in for no reason. Seriously, no one touched Chriss and he just totally flunked that dunk attempt on his own

I think Dudley wanted to get ejected, when he saw the bum Chriss tries to dunk it too fanciful... he just had it and wanted to get kicked out so picked on Rubio... then Chriss comes running lol. Had Dudley not been kicked out and it was Chriss instead, Dudley would have probably tackled Ingles next play to get outta there... this team stinks.

Kind of thought perhaps Dudley thought Chriss was down so he went for an intentional foul to stop the play. Then he decided he'd give Rubio a little more for some reason then of course Chriss decides to up the ante for no reason other than being an immature fool

[thamadkant]

I rewatched that play like 7 times and couldn't understand why Dudley got into it with Rubio and why Chriss came in for no reason. Seriously, no one touched Chriss and he just totally flunked that dunk attempt on his own

I think Dudley wanted to get ejected, when he saw the bum Chriss tries to dunk it too fanciful... he just had it and wanted to get kicked out so picked on Rubio... then Chriss comes running lol. Had Dudley not been kicked out and it was Chriss instead, Dudley would have probably tackled Ingles next play to get outta there... this team stinks.

Kind of thought perhaps Dudley thought Chriss was down so he went for an intentional foul to stop the play. Then he decided he'd give Rubio a little more for some reason then of course Chriss decides to up the ante for no reason other than being an immature fool

yeah just saw his twitter reply about it.

I still think he's had enough and wanted to get kicked out lol, I would too, this team sucks


Still, Chriss is the one idiot in this scuffle.... Dudley gave a hard foul.... but Chriss charged a much smaller man from the back... the one who got pushed to begin with.. what a dumbass.

[charley barkles]

Right now is probably the lowest I’ve ever felt about the Suns

Nah we still have Booker and Jackson and probably a top 3 pick. That gives some hope for the future.

Remember 4 or 5 years ago when Lance Blanks was running things and he fired Gentry and hired Lindsay Hunter (which caused Majerle to quit and probably never return to the organization) and we had a lineup of Telfair, Shannon Brown, Beasley, Scola, Morris brothers, Hadaddi, Jermaine O'Neal, and Kendall Marshall was our prized lottery pick? Goran Dragic was our only likeable player... but I feel like he was hurt or something.

That was the lowest in my memory. I've been a fan since 1990, so others can probably think of lower times before that with the drug scandals and such...

[Blonde]

Right now is probably the lowest I’ve ever felt about the Suns

Nah we still have Booker and Jackson and probably a top 3 pick. That gives some hope for the future.

Remember 4 or 5 years ago when Lance Blanks was running things and he fired Gentry and hired Lindsay Hunter (which caused Majerle to quit and probably never return to the organization) and we had a lineup of Telfair, Shannon Brown, Beasley, Scola, Morris brothers, Hadaddi, Jermaine O'Neal, and Kendall Marshall was our prized lottery pick? Goran Dragic was our only likeable player... but I feel like he was hurt or something.

That was the lowest in my memory. I've been a fan since 1990, so others can probably think of lower times before that with the drug scandals and such...

Most of the guys you just named were actually NBA players who weren’t routinely getting blown out by 30. That’s more than you can say for this team. And honestly, Chriss is less likeable than any of those guys. And we were still recently off a western conference finals appearance.

Now, we’ve gotten worse 5 years in a row and haven’t seen the playoffs in nearly 8. Our future looks better now than it did then, but it gets tiresome waiting for that future year after year only to be further dissapointed. This is the worst team the Suns have ever put on the floor.