Suns fire GM Ryan McDonough
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After three straight losses for a combined 60+ points all I can say is screw Ryan McDonough. Sarver had every right to can his ass.
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Fox had 21pts 8rbs 6asts tonight. Issac with 18 and 12 on Monday. Jackson out here looking like a **** gleaguer. Yeah McD if you're reading this youre a weaselly little **** and sucked at your job.
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Yeah, damn. Firing looks justified now. Those draft misses set us back the most. Drafting two pfs in the lottery and not having one of them pan out is rough. Also completely missed on Len and JJ. Basically I never want us to draft at #4 again

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6 general managers and 8 head coaches since Sarver got control of the franchise 14 years ago. Unbelievable. Only by dumb luck can this franchise now succeed at anything. The ownership does not have the intellect or talent to make it happen.
Let us not forget Sarver was voted worst owner just two years back - https://valleyofthesuns.com/2016/10/20/phoenix-suns-sarver-worst-nba/
Let us not forget Sarver was voted worst owner just two years back - https://valleyofthesuns.com/2016/10/20/phoenix-suns-sarver-worst-nba/
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Fired over the phone. Ouch.
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Nice Marion dunk at the very end.
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He 100% needed to be fired and his firing was completely justfied but I did feel a bit bad for him just from a personal standpoint. Good to see he's not shying away from public about what had happened but staying classy while doing so.
His reasoning behind the Ariza signing being akin to Philly signing Reddick is pretty much in line with how some of us viewed it and even though he hasn't quite had the impact JJ had with Philly, I still don't think it's close to a bad signing. If I could choose, I would've thrown the same contract at Tyreke Evans but it is what it is
His reasoning behind the Ariza signing being akin to Philly signing Reddick is pretty much in line with how some of us viewed it and even though he hasn't quite had the impact JJ had with Philly, I still don't think it's close to a bad signing. If I could choose, I would've thrown the same contract at Tyreke Evans but it is what it is
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TheLogician wrote:Fired over the phone. Ouch.
Absolute dick move by Sarver.
Man up and tell him face to face at least.
Players will not sign with a team that has such an impulsive, controlling d-bag at the top.
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I'll miss McD. He wasn't perfect, far from it, but he seemed like a good guy. It can't be easy working for Sarver. He could be viewed very differently depending on how his picks pan out.

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RaisingArizona wrote:I'll miss McD. He wasn't perfect, far from it, but he seemed like a good guy. It can't be easy working for Sarver. He could be viewed very differently depending on how his picks pan out.
Honestly, I have no problems with Sarver. In public interviews, he's come across as knowledgeable, responsible and forthcoming. I feel like the caricature of him being an impulsive cheapskate is old and stale.
... And frankly, if Sarver wanted Fox and Bridges over Jackson and Shai, then McD needed to be canned. Obviously, I've always thought McD came across as sensible in his interviews, too. But I feel like I've called the drafts better than McD myself... I can't imagine how pissed I'd be as an owner who felt that way.
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RaisingArizona wrote:I'll miss McD. He wasn't perfect, far from it, but he seemed like a good guy. It can't be easy working for Sarver. He could be viewed very differently depending on how his picks pan out.
Probably, maybe but the guy wasn't good at trades, player management or roster building. Even if he hit on more than half of his picks, it's still tough to keep him on board
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TASTIC wrote:TheLogician wrote:Fired over the phone. Ouch.
Absolute dick move by Sarver.
Man up and tell him face to face at least.
Players will not sign with a team that has such an impulsive, controlling d-bag at the top.
He was giving him the Tyler Ulis treatment that McD gave him. They performed about the same. Some good stuff at times, but mostly bad.
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bwgood77 wrote:TASTIC wrote:TheLogician wrote:Fired over the phone. Ouch.
Absolute dick move by Sarver.
Man up and tell him face to face at least.
Players will not sign with a team that has such an impulsive, controlling d-bag at the top.
He was giving him the Tyler Ulis treatment that McD gave him. They performed about the same. Some good stuff at times, but mostly bad.
Getting Booker at 13 though is a fantastic pick and McD can hang his hat on that. The other picks (besides Ayton) though, yeesh...
Ulis was never really good - only put up empty stats on losing, horrible teams. The fact he's not on a roster any more shows how bad he is/was...
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TASTIC wrote:bwgood77 wrote:TASTIC wrote:Absolute dick move by Sarver.
Man up and tell him face to face at least.
Players will not sign with a team that has such an impulsive, controlling d-bag at the top.
He was giving him the Tyler Ulis treatment that McD gave him. They performed about the same. Some good stuff at times, but mostly bad.
Getting Booker at 13 though is a fantastic pick and McD can hang his hat on that. The other picks (besides Ayton) though, yeesh...
Ulis was never really good - only put up empty stats on losing, horrible teams. The fact he's not on a roster any more shows how bad he is/was...
He looked pretty good as a rookie. He is on a G league roster. McD not doing much. Booker was a nice pick. Nothing else really was very good, except lucking out to get the #1 pick and getting Ayton. Some terrible trades though....some ok ones but not great, and we didn't put them to good use, except maybe Bridges but it was expensive.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
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Ulis never really had high end PG potential. He had some good PG skills but he was too small, couldn't defend and couldn't shoot so he was always kind of limited and that's what we expected from a guy who was picked in the 2nd round.