2018 FA & Trade Discussion 4: Whats The POINT ???

[Fo-Real]

A pretty good analysis from the Rozier thread on the Celtics Board:

This team definitely needs more undersized shooting guards.

Need a facilitator of the baskeball - somebody that you know, makes players around him better, gets them shots. I know thats a big ask but Rozier is just not that player.

This is a true statement.

[Kerrsed]

A pretty good analysis from the Rozier thread on the Celtics Board:

I'm shocked that so many people in the media and apparently around the league see Rozier as a point guard. He's not a playmaker. He's an undersized shooting guard.

He's a solid shooter but because of his inability to understand which shots are good for him, he's never been an efficient player. And probably never will be. Him shooting a better percentage from 3 than 2 tells you everything about his basketball IQ.

With everyone being healthy, he's not a good fit for this team at the moment. Around the draft I was advocating for a Rozier trade, you gotta sell high while you can.

Can you link me to that post?

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Its interesting to read the entire thread and see exactly how wide of a spectrum Boston fans feel about Rozier and their expectations on a return for him. I only saw 2 posters say what i would think is a reasonable return from us.

[Kerrsed]

Waiting for Thursday's game when Rozier lights up Caanan and see everyone change their tune!

I will always stay with my assertion, as Rozier lighting up Caanan is no big deal, that would be like me thinking im a great basketball player because i outperformed the gold metal winner from the Special Olympics. It really doesnt mean much if anything.

[BobbieL]

This team definitely needs more undersized shooting guards.

Need a facilitator of the baskeball - somebody that you know, makes players around him better, gets them shots. I know thats a big ask but Rozier is just not that player.

This is a true statement.

Its why I go back to Rubio - I am open to Dinwiddie too

[King4Day]

Just take **** Dieng. Get it done Jones you useless ****.

He'd be worthless on our bench. Holmes is cheaper and probably more productive. And imagine Butler left and we were stuck with Dieng?

Chandler wasn't worthless?
Anderson isn't worthless?
Ariza isn't worthless?

Thing is, Chandler was restricting Holmes' minutes. I just mean that adding Dieng would give us an expensive useless guy.

Anderson was a chance we took since Knight was really not a better option.

Ariza I would like to see if that trade idea could happen where we deal him for Wilson Chandler and TJ McConnell.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Draft Zion, sign Durant. EZ.

[bwgood77]

Draft Zion, sign Durant. EZ.

Didn't you say we wouldn't be drafting that high unless the Bucks are bad? Change your mind on that one this early?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Draft Zion, sign Durant. EZ.

Didn't you say we wouldn't be drafting that high unless the Bucks are bad? Change your mind on that one this early?

I have said stupid things, yes. Sometimes, hindsight is like, 20/5.

[NavLDO]

With Book saying what he did about team chemistry I have not seen it speculated about what he is talking about. Seems there is tension that he is hinting at and I would love to know who he means. Sadly my off the cuff guess is Tj and JJ.

Didn't even think about Warren, but good point. He has been a head-case in many different ways, and yeah, RIP Girlfriend. I think Jackson is the odd man out in Book's comments. There was some glowing Mikal Bridges praise from Booker after his breakout against Memphis and Book seemed to like playing more with Mikal last night. Book seemed to play harder and actually looked for him.

I don't know Booker... but if you listen closely, sometimes it is what he doesn't say as much as what he does say. And when he does praise or make take shots at people or things, we should listen. It's like when he took a shot at foreign players with no college experience (see Bender).

Safe to say Booker is NOT a fan of foreign guys. Also safe to say that there are some pretty sensitive players on the Suns who are affecting chemistry, confidence.

Lack of effort is sometimes a symptom of lack of chemistry.

I don't see a problem with Warren. He seems to go about and to his job. It seems like JJ doesn't really fit in well with Book or people. But they did hang out.

I think if anything it might be that Jackson or possibly TJ (but doesn't seem like him) are a little irritated that Ariza gets SO many minutes, and especially that Anderson does.

But the chemistry looks off with Anderson and a lot of those guys.

I just think he mainly means they need to work on and develop chemistry with all the new pieces.

Absolutely--spot on. Booker is not interested in 'middling' around...being mediocre for a year...especially at the expense of our long-term plans. If I'm Booker, and I just signed my Max deal, and know that I am the future star of this franchise, I want to start 'building' a winner...not trying to 'transplant' a few old pieces to make us mediocre. I'm sure he would welcome a top-flight All-Star, but none of these older Vets....Ariza, Anderson, Crawford...are doing a darn thing for us long-term. All they are doing is clogging up the roster, and preventing guys like Bridges from getting the meaningful development minutes they need.