Game 13: Suns (2-10) at Thunder (7-5), 6PM MST

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How many times has he repeated this kind of BS? He said after the last game or the one before "I'm never going to come out passive again" and then the one before that he said something like "Yeah that version of me you saw in the beginning of the game, you won't see him again I promise you that".

His words mean absolutely nothing. The reporters need to call him out on this BS instead of looking for headlines.

I like this a hell of a lot better than him saying he doesn't know what the coach means and he's been plenty aggressive.

Way better indeed. That was concerning. Hopefully he's more humble than he came across.

It’s just times that we have to buckle up,” the rookie 7-footer said. “Everybody, including the coaching staff, needs to see what we have and see what’s working for us instead of just throwing stuff out there that’s not really helping. Can’t pamper nobody. Just got to really go out there and play and whatever works for us, leave it out there on the floor. That’s it.”

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/11/12/phoenix-suns-cant-stop-paul-george-oklahoma-city-thunder-roll/1985107002/

It's not a good look on him to be basically questioning the play calls of the coaching staff as a 19 year old rookie. He should really just focus on his own play and let the coaching staff do their job.

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How many times has he repeated this kind of BS? He said after the last game or the one before "I'm never going to come out passive again" and then the one before that he said something like "Yeah that version of me you saw in the beginning of the game, you won't see him again I promise you that".

His words mean absolutely nothing. The reporters need to call him out on this BS instead of looking for headlines.

I like this a hell of a lot better than him saying he doesn't know what the coach means and he's been plenty aggressive.

That's true but I don't particularly like him calling out the coaching staff in some of his comments after the game.

Ayton hasn't done **** in the NBA to be calling out anyone let alone the coach

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He helped Jazz to become what they were last season, right? This year, they don't look anything special so far. Including Mitchell.

Also there are videos on y'tube of him teaching young kids, but i think they are not in english.. But my point is, i think he is an excellent development coach, but it is also hard to debate this if we don't have an inside look of their locker room. So we don't exactly know, if the message does not come across to the players, or there is simply lack of proper communication. We can only guess and speculate.

Yeah, I keep seeing Jazz fans saying they really need Igor back to help get their players going and motivate them.

They want him in the Dan Antoni Baby sitter role, not HC like our foolish management and you seem to think he is capable of being. You have a bunch of babies searching their ways in the toughest league in the world, lets hire a rookie coach who knows not a thing about being a head coach in the toughest league in the world to lead them. What genius thought The blind leading the blind would be a great idea.

Igor has to go, Ayton has already tuned him out, do you really want to see another high draft picked ruined in his second year like Chriss and JJ, both all rookie second teamers. Outstanding rookies regressing big time in the second seems to be the common curse for Suns Rookies, a problem Bucks' young players seem to be able to avoid, maybe Kidd knows something about helping young guys overcoming the sophomore wall before career gets derailed that Suns management doesn't

Igor is the nicest guy around. Ask any player he coached. And i know that first hand. I'm sorry but if an 20yo kid tunes out his coach after 12 games into his pro career, then i'm sure, it's not a coach problem but his own character.

I mean if you guys want Igor to be gone so much, send him to the Mavs and you'll see what happens. Just don't cry you want him back afterwards

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A coach is responsible for motivating. If his players don't play hard, you sit their ass and find ones that will. Not that hard to do.

This is really it. Right from the jump ball. If you dont see a player giving his all, you sit him. You tell the team that no position is guaranteed. Players will get the message quickly. We are already losing games. I am reminded of the movie Miracle. Bring in a guy from the G-league, who has shown the most effort and skill, and give him starter minutes.

Since the coaching staff doesn't count against the cap, bring in some solid assistant coaches to work certain players.

You know who isn't playing with effort? Booker and Ayton and even Ariza. If you sit them, who else do you play? This is the same issue when people say, this guy isn't playing well, sit him or that guy isn't playing well sit him. At some point, you run out of people to play and when the whole team is sucking or you have 2 guys on whole team playing with real effort....what do you do? Not play anyone?

We have to just accept that this team isn't complete, it's unbalanced and we have real depth issues so we are forced to play who we are forced to play. This is a young team playing through some growing pains and if Pops coached this team and only played competent, NBA level guys who play with 100% effort every game....he would only play Bridges, TJ and Holmes. But you can't play basketball with two guys. Even if they aren't playing with effort, even if they are barely NBA rotation players, you still need to field a 5 man team. And when you have a young team with an unbalanced roster, you just have to play who you have and that's the biggest challenge for coaches on young teams.

Well that isnt fair to take what I wrote and imply I mean to sit everyone but those who are giving 100%. However, I do think those giving 100% should get the bulk of minutes. Booker and Ayton losing minutes to Bridges and Holmes should send a message. I am sure a coach of Koko's experience could voice this to the whole team without singling out anyone verbally in front of everyone.

But your exaggeration is shown in the movie Hoosiers, maybe the team should watch it together.

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This is really it. Right from the jump ball. If you dont see a player giving his all, you sit him. You tell the team that no position is guaranteed. Players will get the message quickly. We are already losing games. I am reminded of the movie Miracle. Bring in a guy from the G-league, who has shown the most effort and skill, and give him starter minutes.

Since the coaching staff doesn't count against the cap, bring in some solid assistant coaches to work certain players.

You know who isn't playing with effort? Booker and Ayton and even Ariza. If you sit them, who else do you play? This is the same issue when people say, this guy isn't playing well, sit him or that guy isn't playing well sit him. At some point, you run out of people to play and when the whole team is sucking or you have 2 guys on whole team playing with real effort....what do you do? Not play anyone?

We have to just accept that this team isn't complete, it's unbalanced and we have real depth issues so we are forced to play who we are forced to play. This is a young team playing through some growing pains and if Pops coached this team and only played competent, NBA level guys who play with 100% effort every game....he would only play Bridges, TJ and Holmes. But you can't play basketball with two guys. Even if they aren't playing with effort, even if they are barely NBA rotation players, you still need to field a 5 man team. And when you have a young team with an unbalanced roster, you just have to play who you have and that's the biggest challenge for coaches on young teams.

Well that isnt fair to take what I wrote and imply I mean to sit everyone but those who are giving 100%. However, I do think those giving 100% should get the bulk of minutes. Booker and Ayton losing minutes to Bridges and Holmes should send a message. I am sure a coach of Koko's experience could voice this to the whole team without singling out anyone verbally in front of everyone.

But your exaggeration is shown in the movie Hoosiers, maybe the team should watch it together.

Just having a blanket statement of sitting whoever isn't playing with effort isn't fair either to Igor. He play guys I'm sure he doesn't think deserves minutes becuse he's forced to just due to the make up of the roster. They have 3 players who I would consider competent (Ariza/Bridges/TJ) to man the 3 and 4 spots. That's just not enough so you end up having to play Anderson and perhaps the best way to get the most from Anderson is to start him, I don't know.