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Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST

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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#361 » by Saberestar » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:52 am

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DaleyBlind wrote:The **** Kings won again, whilst we continue to be a **** show. I’m so down on this team right now.

We need to win the next game against the Bulls. It is a MUST.

They will have LaVine back and we play at Chicago, so it is not gonna be an easy game, but this is the only team in the league that we can clearly outplay now because they have so many absences.

Dunn, Valentine, Portis and Markkanen are down with injuries.

If we lose the game against the Bulls I seriously think that the chemistry on the team will be garbage and difficult to manage. We need to avoid that and get some momentum, the season is long and we need some wins here and there for confidence.


Even if Dunn is back, he is one of the few players in the league worse on D than Booker, so I'm not sure who they can put on Book. Parker has the very worst RPM and Holiday really stinks.

Yeah, and that is why tomorrow we must win.

The next four games after the Bulls are at Milwakee, at Detroit and then at home against the Pacers and the Clippers. All of them TOUGH games.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#362 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:07 am

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Saberestar wrote:We need to win the next game against the Bulls. It is a MUST.

They will have LaVine back and we play at Chicago, so it is not gonna be an easy game, but this is the only team in the league that we can clearly outplay now because they have so many absences.

Dunn, Valentine, Portis and Markkanen are down with injuries.

If we lose the game against the Bulls I seriously think that the chemistry on the team will be garbage and difficult to manage. We need to avoid that and get some momentum, the season is long and we need some wins here and there for confidence.


Even if Dunn is back, he is one of the few players in the league worse on D than Booker, so I'm not sure who they can put on Book. Parker has the very worst RPM and Holiday really stinks.

Yeah, and that is why tomorrow we must win.

The next four games after the Bulls are at Milwakee, at Detroit and then at home against the Pacers and the Clippers. All of them TOUGH games.


Yeah, just realized I said "Dunn" but meant Lavine. Not sure what's up with Dunn. I wonder if Shaq will play.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#363 » by RunDogGun » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:03 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:If we are getting rid of Ariza anyway my wish list for the season is to use Trevor and assets (bucks pick and salary dump players like Bender and Daniels and whoever) to wind up with Dragic and Bobby Portis for the rest of the season. Dragic plays hard, can shoot off ball or facilitate and lead, he would be perfect next to booker. Portis brings nastiness, rebounding, weak side shot blocking and he can stick the mid range and three, he would be a force next to Ayton. Could move Tj back to natural 3 (Bridges going back to bench is the downside), starters Dragic/ Booker/ Tj/ Portis/ Ayton might work. Just spitballin as Frank would say.


Goran plays hard when he is happy where he is at. I am uncertain he will be happy to return to the Suns after being traded twice.

I am ok with us starting Booker and Bridges in the backcourt for a few games.


Important thing about Dragic is his connection with Igor... Pay attention on this remark of his after Igor was asked if he is going to keep coaching Slovenia after winning Euro title on press conference... I copied video at specific time...

Also, you can watch the whole section after 30:10 (that I found the most interesting), that will tell something about (Igor's) team atmosphere... This post is slowly becoming Igor's praise, so I guess I could add (remind) that Booker recently said that Igor is basketball genius ;)

https://youtu.be/Hya6jsTzon4?t=2093

If Igor is enough to keep Dragic content and focused, then it could work. However, Goran has mentally checked out twice on us for some reason. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but three times is an enemy assault.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#364 » by Fo-Real » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:10 pm

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Goran plays hard when he is happy where he is at. I am uncertain he will be happy to return to the Suns after being traded twice.

I am ok with us starting Booker and Bridges in the backcourt for a few games.


Important thing about Dragic is his connection with Igor... Pay attention on this remark of his after Igor was asked if he is going to keep coaching Slovenia after winning Euro title on press conference... I copied video at specific time...

Also, you can watch the whole section after 30:10 (that I found the most interesting), that will tell something about (Igor's) team atmosphere... This post is slowly becoming Igor's praise, so I guess I could add (remind) that Booker recently said that Igor is basketball genius ;)

https://youtu.be/Hya6jsTzon4?t=2093

If Igor is enough to keep Dragic content and focused, then it could work. However, Goran has mentally checked out twice on us for some reason. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but three times is an enemy assault.


The organization has dibs on 50 percent of that blame at worst if not more. Sometimes you lose confidence in the ones steering the ship, and sometimes its because that ship keeps HITTING THE GODDAMN ROCKS!! :lol: I think overall Dragic is a decent dude who dislike bull and chaos and reacts poorly to depressing and **** situations. I would still trust him in this instance for the remaining year and 3/4ish of his contract to help.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#365 » by RunDogGun » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:13 pm

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RunDogGun wrote:It actually happens more often than we expect. Even in the win against the Spurs, if we hadnt shot 50+%, we dont win that game because we shot 8 free throws on our home court, while the Spurs shot 24.

I still dont know why this continues to happen, but it has to weigh on the minds of the players. The league needs to fix the problem. Either they have fair games where fouls are called the same on both ends, or this league is a joke and not far off from WWE, but the players dont know its scripted.


Sometimes I consider whether or not it's worth it to even keep watching. I love the Suns. I love basketball, but I hate when a game is not called fairly. And I hate that it's a known thing in this league that the superstar players get extra special treatment. The Devil's Advocate argument to my point would be that the fans are paying money to see the best players. But, I'd imagine the fans are also paying money to see a game in which the play is called fairly, and neither team has an advantage due to officiating. Unfortunately thats not the case.


I went back and watched the game this morning. There was really only two calls I questioned by refs and the Sixers were victims of quite a few tick-tack calls in the first half.

1) Butler's block on Holmes at the end of the 1st half. Clearly Butler side-swiped Holmes in the head during the block. The Sixers then immediately got a 3-pointer off the block. Big swing at the end of half which brought them back to within 5.

2) The second obvious bad call was the block on Bridges when Embiid ran him over. That was an obvious charge and took Bridges out of the game for a bit.

Still, the refs miss calls. We really lost the game because of 11 missed free throws and our bench play by our guards, Canaan and Crawford. Canaan laid a big fat turd on the court. TJ McDonnell dominated Canaan and it really shows he's not even a backup quality PG.

There many obvious missed calls. Embid committed multiple offensive fouls, which were easy for the refs to see. Multiple pushes in the back. He cleared guys out with elbows,a hook with the elbow, and he straight out shoved Warren out of the way to get the room to score. All of those plays, he got an and1.
Your number one point, the shooter was fouled on that three, and i think he made the freethrow, so it was a six point turn around, which is the game right there.

I totally understand that refs are human, but this crap is ridiculous. If it is this obvious that our players will get the shaft of the calls, why would any player want to come here? Or stay?

Just looking at Tyson's per36 in personal fouls from our team to the Lakers, with 7 games for us and 6 games for them. 8.5 pfs/36min for us and 5.3 pfs/36 mins for them. I bet he is enjoying the difference.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#366 » by Qwigglez » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:45 pm

I watched the game and thought we didn't look that bad. We missed quite a few open shots that should go in more often than not. The refs really iced our players in the 3rd quarter with all the fouls being called.
Looking at the box score I thought Embiid destroyed Ayton, but Embiid scored most of his points on Holmes so I feel better about that. Embiid is really dangerous because he can attack the paint from 15 feet out because of his ball-handling abilities. I don't think Ayton will ever be that creative with his handles.

Overall though I'm not that mad about the loss. Give us a PG and we'd win this game.
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Re: Game 16: Phoenix Suns at Philadelphia 76ers, Monday, 11/19, 5PM, MST 

Post#367 » by stoo » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:33 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
stoo wrote:
Important thing about Dragic is his connection with Igor... Pay attention on this remark of his after Igor was asked if he is going to keep coaching Slovenia after winning Euro title on press conference... I copied video at specific time...

Also, you can watch the whole section after 30:10 (that I found the most interesting), that will tell something about (Igor's) team atmosphere... This post is slowly becoming Igor's praise, so I guess I could add (remind) that Booker recently said that Igor is basketball genius ;)

https://youtu.be/Hya6jsTzon4?t=2093

If Igor is enough to keep Dragic content and focused, then it could work. However, Goran has mentally checked out twice on us for some reason. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but three times is an enemy assault.


The organization has dibs on 50 percent of that blame at worst if not more. Sometimes you lose confidence in the ones steering the ship, and sometimes its because that ship keeps HITTING THE GODDAMN ROCKS!! :lol: I think overall Dragic is a decent dude who dislike bull and chaos and reacts poorly to depressing and **** situations. I would still trust him in this instance for the remaining year and 3/4ish of his contract to help.


I predict Goran comes late this season, and having a few great ones
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