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Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST

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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#321 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:20 am

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MathiasPW wrote:Official review says it's incorrect and that's it?

If you criticize a ref you get fined for 15k+ but these guys change crucial plays and release a statement saying "bad call". Wow.

I don't think penalizing refs is a good solution to mistakes, but at least allow reviews or challenges by the coach to reduce the impact of these mistakes. It's not that hard.


You should be able to use your Timeouts as challenges instead if you want. Wouldnt break the flow of the game at all. Players would need to stay at mid court tho and no talking to coaches if a challenge is called.

Great idea.
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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#322 » by bwgood77 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:34 am

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MathiasPW wrote:Official review says it's incorrect and that's it?

If you criticize a ref you get fined for 15k+ but these guys change crucial plays and release a statement saying "bad call". Wow.

I don't think penalizing refs is a good solution to mistakes, but at least allow reviews or challenges by the coach to reduce the impact of these mistakes. It's not that hard.


You should be able to use your Timeouts as challenges instead if you want. Wouldnt break the flow of the game at all. Players would need to stay at mid court tho and no talking to coaches if a challenge is called.

Great idea.


Yeah, they should do it just like the NFL. You get like 2 challenges per half..I think in the NFL if you lose your first challenge though, you forfeit your 2nd one...but maybe you just forfeit the timeout and if you win the challenge you don't lose the timeout.

Or if they just give you one per half or even per game, you would have to make sure to save it until the end, or a crucial bad foul that fouls an important player out...so you wouldn't have many challenges unless in big game moments if there might be a bad call. Not sure I trust the NBA refs as much as the NFL ones though in reversing bad calls.
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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#323 » by Hesh » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:27 am

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Kerrsed wrote:ZERO contact. Magic broadcast shown it like 4 different times from 4 different angles, Bridges flew past him, he TRIED to jump into Bridges and made no contact. Such BS.


From what I saw, I'm pretty sure Augustine stuck his leg out and Bridges' leg slightly clipped it


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oh wow, so there was no contact, and it could've cost us the game :o

I didn't even know these reports existed lol
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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#324 » by MathiasPW » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:58 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
You should be able to use your Timeouts as challenges instead if you want. Wouldnt break the flow of the game at all. Players would need to stay at mid court tho and no talking to coaches if a challenge is called.

Great idea.


Yeah, they should do it just like the NFL. You get like 2 challenges per half..I think in the NFL if you lose your first challenge though, you forfeit your 2nd one...but maybe you just forfeit the timeout and if you win the challenge you don't lose the timeout.

Or if they just give you one per half or even per game, you would have to make sure to save it until the end, or a crucial bad foul that fouls an important player out...so you wouldn't have many challenges unless in big game moments if there might be a bad call. Not sure I trust the NBA refs as much as the NFL ones though in reversing bad calls.
Also like the idea. And it's not like they don't interrupt the game flow already with those hour-long reviews of clear path fouls or whatever. These challenges would be way more crucial for the final result.
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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#325 » by cberry78 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:54 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Great idea.


Yeah, they should do it just like the NFL. You get like 2 challenges per half..I think in the NFL if you lose your first challenge though, you forfeit your 2nd one...but maybe you just forfeit the timeout and if you win the challenge you don't lose the timeout.

Or if they just give you one per half or even per game, you would have to make sure to save it until the end, or a crucial bad foul that fouls an important player out...so you wouldn't have many challenges unless in big game moments if there might be a bad call. Not sure I trust the NBA refs as much as the NFL ones though in reversing bad calls.
Also like the idea. And it's not like they don't interrupt the game flow already with those hour-long reviews of clear path fouls or whatever. These challenges would be way more crucial for the final result.

How about 1 review per half, plus an additional one in the final 1 or 2 minutes of each half (potentially 4 reviews per team per game). If the challenge is overturned the other team gets the ball at mid-court with a full 24 seconds on the clock. Time outs are way to important to the time management of a game for them to be taken away when the coaches/players truly feel a ref made a bad call.
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Re: Game 35: Suns at Magic, Wednesday, December 26th, 5PM MST 

Post#326 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:43 pm

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MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, they should do it just like the NFL. You get like 2 challenges per half..I think in the NFL if you lose your first challenge though, you forfeit your 2nd one...but maybe you just forfeit the timeout and if you win the challenge you don't lose the timeout.

Or if they just give you one per half or even per game, you would have to make sure to save it until the end, or a crucial bad foul that fouls an important player out...so you wouldn't have many challenges unless in big game moments if there might be a bad call. Not sure I trust the NBA refs as much as the NFL ones though in reversing bad calls.
Also like the idea. And it's not like they don't interrupt the game flow already with those hour-long reviews of clear path fouls or whatever. These challenges would be way more crucial for the final result.

How about 1 review per half, plus an additional one in the final 1 or 2 minutes of each half (potentially 4 reviews per team per game). If the challenge is overturned the other team gets the ball at mid-court with a full 24 seconds on the clock. Time outs are way to important to the time management of a game for them to be taken away when the coaches/players truly feel a ref made a bad call.

You get 3 reviews per game. You can only ask for a review on your own time out. No team can have scored since the play in question. If the review is upheld play begins at the point of the changed call, time is reset and any intervening calls are eliminated (like fouls). Reversal can be made only if the review clearly indicates. Reviews are not made by the refs on the court, but in a video room somewhere. Refs on the court get too emotionally invested with complaining, questioning, make up calls etc.

Even if they only allow reviews on made calls and not no-calls, it would be an improvement. At least a team could contest phantom fouls.

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