has anyone noticed that Mikal has been playing awesome lately?
not kidding this team is way more overloaded with talents than the 03-04 suns before Nash coming back. This team is one decent point guard away from being a contender.
Game 54: Atlanta Hawks (16-35) @ Phoenix Suns (11-42) - 9:00 PM ET
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Man I gotta send a thank you letter to the NBA for screwing up leaguepass on such on consistent basis. If it weren't for their terrible streaming service, I might have watched last night's game in its entirety. The NBA.
It's FAN-tastic!
I can't believe how awful Ayton is defensively at times. Put your hands up. Move your feet. Hit people with your ass. JUMP! Jesus, man.
It's FAN-tastic!
I can't believe how awful Ayton is defensively at times. Put your hands up. Move your feet. Hit people with your ass. JUMP! Jesus, man.
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handsome salary wrote:Even the franchise player is saying a winning culture matters.Booker said afterward the Suns have become too comfortable with losing after doing it for so many years.
''It's been a common theme here for the past couple of years. We need to break it,'' he said. ''The city deserves more. Everybody supporting us deserves more.''
But what the **** do you do? Suns had their two young studs playing and they still lost at home to another bottom feeding team. Nobody associated with this team is a winner.
It’s gotta start taking a toll on him. He’s literally dominating games and being the best player on the court in so many of these games and the Suns are still losing or getting blown out night in and night out.
If he wasn’t getting paid $155M over the next 5 years, I’d almost feel bad for him.
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Did not read every page, might have mentioned somewhere but I noticed that there were a couple brief runs of both Ayton and Holmes playing together.
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bigfoot wrote:handsome salary wrote:Even the franchise player is saying a winning culture matters.Booker said afterward the Suns have become too comfortable with losing after doing it for so many years.
''It's been a common theme here for the past couple of years. We need to break it,'' he said. ''The city deserves more. Everybody supporting us deserves more.''
But what the **** do you do? Suns had their two young studs playing and they still lost at home to another bottom feeding team. Nobody associated with this team is a winner.
You blow it up ... keep just a couple players and bring in all new guys who have been in winning environments.
That's basically what they did. The only guys who played last night that were on the team last year were Booker and Jackson.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
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When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
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RaisingArizona wrote:Frank Lee wrote:I read through these posts and see Ayton referred to as an 'Elite' and a 'Premier' rebounder.... I have to disagree. The guy relies totally on his length and relatively good hands (which were somewhat clammy tonight) The fundamentals are not there. He'll fill up the box score on size alone, but I challenge you to find a rebound where he just yanked it down from others like it was the only ball on earth.
He does not fight for anything. Period.
He doesn't appear to be an elite competitor. It's a huge red flag for me. As the #1 pick who's being outshined by Doncic, you'd think he'd bring it every night.
Not just Doncic, he was being outshined by another rookie Trae Young last night as well.
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AtheJ415 wrote:Funky Tut wrote:If we can land Zion all is well, but have a feeling he will be given to NY
If he lands in NYK it will be further evidence of rigging.
Yep, if NYK gets a little lottery luck for the first time in 34 years ..."it's rigged"
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/New-York-Knicks/20/Lottery-History
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Trae's favorite player is Steve Nash also.
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bigfoot wrote:handsome salary wrote:Even the franchise player is saying a winning culture matters.Booker said afterward the Suns have become too comfortable with losing after doing it for so many years.
''It's been a common theme here for the past couple of years. We need to break it,'' he said. ''The city deserves more. Everybody supporting us deserves more.''
But what the **** do you do? Suns had their two young studs playing and they still lost at home to another bottom feeding team. Nobody associated with this team is a winner.
You blow it up ... keep just a couple players and bring in all new guys who have been in winning environments.

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ChrisInAZ wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Funky Tut wrote:If we can land Zion all is well, but have a feeling he will be given to NY
If he lands in NYK it will be further evidence of rigging.
Yep, if NYK gets a little lottery luck for the first time in 34 years ..."it's rigged"
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/New-York-Knicks/20/Lottery-History
It 1000% would be. I don't think it's a coincidence that Cle got a ton of picks after Lebron left, and I don't think it's a coincidence that many 1st overalls landed in local spots (Rose to Chicago, Lebron to Cle, Ayton to AZ, etc.). Thing is rigged if he ends up in NYC.
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It's not rigged. They have as good as chance as anyone anyway. If anyone with a reasonable head on their shoulders watched it, they'd realize it. Ernst & Young would risk their $35 billion per year in revenue and going under if they allowed this.
They would also need to somehow doctor 4 ping pong balls to come out....but not just come out over all other balls, but come out in a specific order and then change it up with every draw, which, if you watch, is impossible. And often times, teams win multiple times in a row.
They would also need to somehow doctor 4 ping pong balls to come out....but not just come out over all other balls, but come out in a specific order and then change it up with every draw, which, if you watch, is impossible. And often times, teams win multiple times in a row.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said:
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
"First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."