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Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST

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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#341 » by denial » Thu Jan 9, 2020 1:23 am

LesGrossman wrote:.another guy believes Tyler Johnson is the anti christ and even if he steps on the floor for one minute its damnation... Jerome everyone has their haters...To me, the role of Monty in all this is understated.


Agree it’s on coach. If he would stop playing ty Johnson we would start winning. Thankfully, he figured out Jerome was a bust. Now he needs to bench tyjo permanently. Antichrist or not. When he plays, suns lose. It’s really that simple.
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#342 » by denial » Thu Jan 9, 2020 1:37 am

Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.

By contrast, we have won 3 out of 7 that Ayton has played in, so Ayton has a win percentage of 42%. And everyone is down on him.
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#343 » by denial » Thu Jan 9, 2020 1:46 am

denial wrote:Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.


We do have a backup point guard who, unlike tyjo, has been in several winning games since 11/24: Javon Carter
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#344 » by denial » Thu Jan 9, 2020 1:47 am

denial wrote:
denial wrote:Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.


We do have a backup point guard who, unlike tyjo, has been in several winning games since 11/24: Javon Carter


Another suns backup pg with several wins since 11/24, unlike tyjo: Eli Okobo
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#345 » by RunDogGun » Thu Jan 9, 2020 5:12 pm

denial wrote:Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.

By contrast, we have won 3 out of 7 that Ayton has played in, so Ayton has a win percentage of 42%. And everyone is down on him.

Well to be fair, Johnson wasn't our number one pick, and is not a starter playing starter minutes. The impact on a game from a deep bench player is not the same as a starter getting starter minutes.

I have never been a fan of Johnson, I expressed my displeasure in trading for him, but I just don't think he has an effect on the game like other players.
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#346 » by LesGrossman » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:19 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
denial wrote:Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.

By contrast, we have won 3 out of 7 that Ayton has played in, so Ayton has a win percentage of 42%. And everyone is down on him.

Well to be fair, Johnson wasn't our number one pick, and is not a starter playing starter minutes. The impact on a game from a deep bench player is not the same as a starter getting starter minutes.

I have never been a fan of Johnson, I expressed my displeasure in trading for him, but I just don't think he has an effect on the game like other players.

Please dont be silly. A curse does not depend on minutes played. One second is enough! Not only will the game automatically be lost but whoever cheered for him will lose his soul. And it'll start with you.
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#347 » by denial » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:37 pm

LesGrossman wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
denial wrote:Since nov 24 2019, we have lost every game that Tyler Johnson has played in. Every win since that time tyjo was dnpcd.

I’m surprised to see that before nov 24 he actually got a lot of minutes and wasn’t always bad. But since November 24 it’s been tyjo=lose, 100% of the time.
To be fair I’ll mention that we have also lost games that he didn’t play in. But we have won zero that he has played in since 11/24.

By contrast, we have won 3 out of 7 that Ayton has played in, so Ayton has a win percentage of 42%. And everyone is down on him.

Well to be fair, Johnson wasn't our number one pick, and is not a starter playing starter minutes. The impact on a game from a deep bench player is not the same as a starter getting starter minutes.

I have never been a fan of Johnson, I expressed my displeasure in trading for him, but I just don't think he has an effect on the game like other players.

Please dont be silly. A curse does not depend on minutes played. One second is enough! Not only will the game automatically be lost but whoever cheered for him will lose his soul. And it'll start with you.


Minutes played in games by Tyler Johnson since 11/24, of which the Suns have won ZERO. And in almost all cases, the Suns lost due to a wild run where the other team killed us over a 5-10 minute stretch. Stretches during which a certain player happened to be playing. All it take is 5 minutes to lose an NBA game. Ask any Suns fan.

minutes, W/L
16, L (11/24/2019)
18, L
15, L
4, L
16, L
15, L
9, L
15, L
9, L
9, L (1/7/2020)

Contrast with games he has not played in since 11/24

minutes, W/L
0, W (12/2/2019)
0, L
0, W
0, W
0, W
0, L
0, L
0, L
0, L
0, L
0, W
0, W
0, W (1/3/2020)

Pattern since 11/24:
- When he plays we never win
- When he doesn't play, we win more than 50%

Indisputable
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Re: Game 37: Sacramento Kings (14-23) @ Phoenix Suns (14-22), Tues, Jan 7, 7pm MST 

Post#348 » by denial » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:55 pm

Suns players, besides Tyler Johnson, who have not had a win since 11/24, according to basketball-reference:

- Jared Harper (whoever that is)

Johnson has played in 10 games since 11/24, losing all 10. No other player who has played any minutes in that span has not had a win.
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