Game 27: Brooooooklyn Nets (16-12) @ Phoenix Suns (17-9) l Tuesday l 8:00pm l TNT

[bwgood77]

I thought Monty was right to keep Ayton in the game and keep switching. Yeah, we got burned, but we now have some film to work with and figure out how to adjust. Ayton did the right thing staying close and chasing him off the 3 point line, and not fouling. We just had no way to help without giving up an open three.

Not really sure what to do about that. The Spurs approach of just doubling Harden every time won't work when Irving and Durant are also on the court.

I hated the loss - like FoReal, lost that 1st half glow - but I'm trusting this process. On to the next.

I don't think so...he never plays nearly 35 minutes and when he is chasing guards and wings around 100% of the time, 30 minutes into playing time, he will not have the stamina...no bigs will..they are not conditioned to chase guards for nearly a full quarter...he is not only used to mostly guarding slow bigs who don't move much, but not playing that # of minutes.

He has only played more minutes than that in 6 games, about half of them in OT, but all of them that played bigs mostly...a few games against Denver, Cleveland and Dallas all of which require a lot less running around chasing guards/wings than a small ball lineup.

Switching is fine if you are normally guarding a big guy, conserving energy...but onto Harden repeatedly at the end of a game where you play 35 minutes is too much to ask.

When switching on Harden earlier he kept with him and blocked a layup attempt.

Then they don't exploit our size on the mismatch offensively.

[bwgood77]

This game made me so mad so im not gunna get into all my complaints. Why I didnt post anymore last night lol.

But I will say one thing though...

Its funny that at the start of this thread people hoped that KD would be playing as a measuring stick to how good the suns are.

Well we lost without the nets having KD AND Irving. So...

Where does that measure us?

I think we play better for 4 quarters with those guys and stay more engaged...just guessing but often role players step up when stars are out, like ours did when Booker was out.

Harden always does well with a 5 out lineup where he can drive. With a not great lineup last year he took Houston to the 4 seed in the tough west on his back...with over the hill PJ Tucker and Eric Gordon as the next best players.

[King4Day]

I think if the Nets had bigger runs (8-0 or 10-0 runs), we would have been better prepared to fight back. But it was such a gradual, slow comeback, that it snuck up on us

[Ghost of Kleine]

That hurt, was on a high I cant even describe in the first half. We just let down and never recaptured THAT GLOW (Bruce Leroy)!!! It happens!!

Great " Last Dragon " reference man! The Shogun of Harlem was definitely Brooklyn's role in this. Where's Vanity when you need some motivation huh?...lol

[KLEON]

This game made me so mad so im not gunna get into all my complaints. Why I didnt post anymore last night lol.

But I will say one thing though...

Its funny that at the start of this thread people hoped that KD would be playing as a measuring stick to how good the suns are.

Well we lost without the nets having KD AND Irving. So...

Where does that measure us?

I think we play better for 4 quarters with those guys and stay more engaged...just guessing but often role players step up when stars are out, like ours did when Booker was out.

Harden always does well with a 5 out lineup where he can drive. With a not great lineup last year he took Houston to the 4 seed in the tough west on his back...with over the hill PJ Tucker and Eric Gordon as the next best players.

This makes it 2 times I agree with you ever

[KLEON]

We lost this game because our good luck charm( The Tank) didn't start or played

[King4Day]

We lost this game because our good luck charm( The Tank) didn't start or played

Yea what happened? Was he hurt? I don't really get why he didn't play this one after a string of solid games. Unless it was to give him extra rest?

[suns12345]

We lost this game because our good luck charm( The Tank) didn't start or played

I called it. L incoming without Frank lol

Couldn't watch last night, glad I didnt in the end.

I'd take 6/7 on this home stand, however hoping games like this and the denver ones dont come back to bite us come playoff seeding time.

[lilfishi22]

this one is definitely on Monty. Everyone deserves some amount of blame but most of it goes to Monty imo.

Booker was hot and never found it again after sitting for like 7-8min in the 2nd. While our bench guys were getting going, this really isn't the kind of game you leave the bench guys out there to see what they can do. Against the Magic or whatever, sure sit your star guys a little longer than usual and gives those bench guys some burn but this is not the game to get cute. There was just a lack of adjustment when the Nets started to crawl back and it was almost like the guys just did whatever they can without instruction to try and keep the lead but there was no leadership or direction to change when the lead was whittling away.

But I'm taking this loss in stride and I think the team will too. We're still learning and even the Nets have some bad losses (put up 146 in regulation and still lost to the Wizards twice, L in double OT against the Cavs twice). Every defeat, every failure, there's opportunity to learn and opportunity to get better. There were a ton of failures and there were a ton to learn from.

[lilfishi22]

We lost this game because our good luck charm( The Tank) didn't start or played

Yea what happened? Was he hurt? I don't really get why he didn't play this one after a string of solid games. Unless it was to give him extra rest?

From starting to getting zero minutes. Mind boggling

[King4Day]

When I used to mod at PSD, anytime we'd come off a bad loss, I would create the next game thread soon-after so we can put the loss behind us.
Can someone do this when they have time? Let's talk about New Orleans!

[WeekapaugGroove]

This game made me so mad so im not gunna get into all my complaints. Why I didnt post anymore last night lol.

But I will say one thing though...

Its funny that at the start of this thread people hoped that KD would be playing as a measuring stick to how good the suns are.

Well we lost without the nets having KD AND Irving. So...

Where does that measure us?

As far as the measuring stick aspect the Nets shot 20-40 from 3. I don't care who's on the floor it's hard to beat anyone when they shoot like that. Now some of that was the suns fault with lazy rotations so I'm not just totally tossing it into the 'make/miss' league bucket.

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[MrMiyagi]

I blame myself for this loss. I went to bed at half-time since we were up by 20. I failed the team.

[bwgood77]

When I used to mod at PSD, anytime we'd come off a bad loss, I would create the next game thread soon-after so we can put the loss behind us.
Can someone do this when they have time? Let's talk about New Orleans!

You can always find our last Pelicans game there game thread, press reply, copy all of the post with the lineups, etc, then post in the OP of a new thread. We can't expect too much out of our great game thread starter, and I can't always provide backup.

Any anyone can do this obviously.

Unfortunately one of the few times we have two full days off it's after a loss like this.

[Mulhollanddrive]

How do we win a championship?

We're all happy to be at this level now where we can compete with every single team, but how do we beat them 4 times.

I think we're 1 impact player or element short and it's up to Monty and Jones to find it.

[spanishninja]

heh, it looks like the Nuggets lost to the Wizards in a way worse than we lost last night. Not only did they blow a 20+ lead but were also down 10+ in the fourth.

[Keith_myath]

How do we win a championship?

We're all happy to be at this level now where we can compete with every single team, but how do we beat them 4 times.

I think we're 1 impact player or element short and it's up to Monty and Jones to find it.

We don't have that reliable guy who can score double figures regularly off the bench.

Johnson and Saric are the most regular, but even they're only sometimes. Johnson is also reliant on being passed the ball; he's not a double figure scorer off the dribble. Saric is reliant on your pick n pop type plays.

Booker was dominant in the first quarter because he drove. After that he didn't, which blows my mind why he wouldn't try it late when hero balling. Instead he went across the key and tried to back down a player before hitting a turnaround jumper. Not his forte, nor is it a good shot for a SG late in the game.

CP3 can drive and create a mid range shot. Exceptional at that.

After that, there isn't much on the list that can create their own shot off the dribble near or around the rim. I do't include Payne because he's become unreliable.

Our list is deep if the shots are falling. When it's dry, then we're in dire trouble. This is where JJ needs to make a move. A PnR player who can go strong to the basket, a PnP player who is a more reliable shot from mid range to 3, or a player who can drive to the basket and score or draw a foul. Whose available that fits that need? Nader, Carter, Jones, Alexander, Galloway and Payne are all disposable.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Watching the game again we were -12 in the last 3 minutes.

Our clutch time is very inconsistant (Booker) while Harden is the best iso player maybe ever.

[Calvin Klein]

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