NBA FINALS: RD 4 l Game 1- Milwaukee Bucks @ Phoenix Suns l Tuesday l 6:00 l ABC l Series (1-0)

[RunDogGun]

When Jae hits shots he is a game winner for us. He was huge in closing out the Clips in game 6.

In any case, I don't think its a coincidence the two teams in the finals both start guys that kinda suck talent wise (Jae and Tucker) but have clear benefits that they bring. Obviously Monty and Bud (aka people that know better than almost anyone on the planet) see their value.

Never once said that Crowder wasn't valuable. Why are people continually adding stuff I didn't say, and then try and argue it? Question for you, was Jae a liability offensively last night? When he falls to the floor trying to get a call, is he not out of position in transition defensively? Did Johnson play very well last night? The answer is yes.

Monty's subbing was pretty basic. If you look at the second quarter for example CP3+Booker+CamP=24 minutes, Bridges+CamJ=12 mins, Jae+Craig=12 mins, Ayton+Frank=12 mins. Its like he is just subbing guys on regular shifts, not who is playing best. At this stage, the finals, you play your best guys the most. At this moment in time, CamJ is one of our five best players. But if you have an argument to claim that false, lets hear it. But please don't tell me I don't see what I see after watching the game and seeing all the stats.

CamJ should get more minutes and more shots. Hopefully with all the wisdom Monty has, figures this out, since Cam is our best three point shooter, and a solid defender, today.

[suns12345]

When Jae hits shots he is a game winner for us. He was huge in closing out the Clips in game 6.

In any case, I don't think its a coincidence the two teams in the finals both start guys that kinda suck talent wise (Jae and Tucker) but have clear benefits that they bring. Obviously Monty and Bud (aka people that know better than almost anyone on the planet) see their value.

Never once said that Crowder wasn't valuable. Why are people continually adding stuff I didn't say, and then try and argue it? Question for you, was Jae a liability offensively last night? When he falls to the floor trying to get a call, is he not out of position in transition defensively? Did Johnson play very well last night? The answer is yes.

Monty's subbing was pretty basic. If you look at the second quarter for example CP3+Booker+CamP=24 minutes, Bridges+CamJ=12 mins, Jae+Craig=12 mins, Ayton+Frank=12 mins. Its like he is just subbing guys on regular shifts, not who is playing best. At this stage, the finals, you play your best guys the most. At this moment in time, CamJ is one of our five best players. But if you have an argument to claim that false, lets hear it. But please don't tell me I don't see what I see after watching the game and seeing all the stats.

CamJ should get more minutes and more shots. Hopefully with all the wisdom Monty has, figures this out, since Cam is our best three point shooter, and a solid defender, today.

I wasn't really replying to you, I was just talking about what I though about Jae if thats ok

I agree he is frustrating at times, so was commenting that it is interesting that guys like Tucker and Jae play heavy minutes in these scenarios regardless.

As for the rotation stuff, Monty is pretty rigid. His main adjustment in game seems to be leaving Booker in longer and thats about it. I think that could be criticised but its also been interesting how the Suns have broken the mold this playoffs a little bit. By that I mean, we haven't really adjusted to anyone, we've played our usual guys, ran our usual stuff and made other teams adjust to us. Part of that is having DA who really has been the small ball killer who can also cope with size, but nevertheless its been an interesting diversion from what most teams seem to do. And I guess if we hadn't been winning Monty would be criticised for it haha

[sunsbg]

Jae has to hit some shots then start thinking about the salsa dancing.

[Saberestar]

When Jae hits shots he is a game winner for us. He was huge in closing out the Clips in game 6.

In any case, I don't think its a coincidence the two teams in the finals both start guys that kinda suck talent wise (Jae and Tucker) but have clear benefits that they bring. Obviously Monty and Bud (aka people that know better than almost anyone on the planet) see their value.

Never once said that Crowder wasn't valuable. Why are people continually adding stuff I didn't say, and then try and argue it? Question for you, was Jae a liability offensively last night? When he falls to the floor trying to get a call, is he not out of position in transition defensively? Did Johnson play very well last night? The answer is yes.

Monty's subbing was pretty basic. If you look at the second quarter for example CP3+Booker+CamP=24 minutes, Bridges+CamJ=12 mins, Jae+Craig=12 mins, Ayton+Frank=12 mins. Its like he is just subbing guys on regular shifts, not who is playing best. At this stage, the finals, you play your best guys the most. At this moment in time, CamJ is one of our five best players. But if you have an argument to claim that false, lets hear it. But please don't tell me I don't see what I see after watching the game and seeing all the stats.

CamJ should get more minutes and more shots. Hopefully with all the wisdom Monty has, figures this out, since Cam is our best three point shooter, and a solid defender, today.

We are winning and playing very well, changes are made when you need it.

Cam Johnson is playing very well but no way I would change rotations at this point of the season, we are close to winning our first championship ever. He plays solid minutes off the bench.

Crowder shot bad the other night...but who cares? He is a threat from three because every team knows that he can get hot and score 4 consecutives threes in a quarter at any moment. Teams respect his shooting and that create space automatically.

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[RunDogGun]

When Jae hits shots he is a game winner for us. He was huge in closing out the Clips in game 6.

In any case, I don't think its a coincidence the two teams in the finals both start guys that kinda suck talent wise (Jae and Tucker) but have clear benefits that they bring. Obviously Monty and Bud (aka people that know better than almost anyone on the planet) see their value.

Never once said that Crowder wasn't valuable. Why are people continually adding stuff I didn't say, and then try and argue it? Question for you, was Jae a liability offensively last night? When he falls to the floor trying to get a call, is he not out of position in transition defensively? Did Johnson play very well last night? The answer is yes.

Monty's subbing was pretty basic. If you look at the second quarter for example CP3+Booker+CamP=24 minutes, Bridges+CamJ=12 mins, Jae+Craig=12 mins, Ayton+Frank=12 mins. Its like he is just subbing guys on regular shifts, not who is playing best. At this stage, the finals, you play your best guys the most. At this moment in time, CamJ is one of our five best players. But if you have an argument to claim that false, lets hear it. But please don't tell me I don't see what I see after watching the game and seeing all the stats.

CamJ should get more minutes and more shots. Hopefully with all the wisdom Monty has, figures this out, since Cam is our best three point shooter, and a solid defender, today.

I wasn't really replying to you, I was just talking about what I though about Jae if thats ok

I agree he is frustrating at times, so was commenting that it is interesting that guys like Tucker and Jae play heavy minutes in these scenarios regardless.

As for the rotation stuff, Monty is pretty rigid. His main adjustment in game seems to be leaving Booker in longer and thats about it. I think that could be criticised but its also been interesting how the Suns have broken the mold this playoffs a little bit. By that I mean, we haven't really adjusted to anyone, we've played our usual guys, ran our usual stuff and made other teams adjust to us. Part of that is having DA who really has been the small ball killer who can also cope with size, but nevertheless its been an interesting diversion from what most teams seem to do. And I guess if we hadn't been winning Monty would be criticised for it haha

But what I asked was if Jae was a liability on offense in game one of the finals. You didn't answer. Jae didn't shoot tonight like he did in game one, where he was shooting too fast purposely falling trying to draw a foul, except once. And one quick shot. The rest of his shots were either in rhythm, or he clearly made sure he was set.

It was strange that Monty gave even less minutes to Johnson tonight, and he took even less shots. He is still our best three point shooter in the playoffs, yet we continue to use that weapon less. And if you look at the deflections that Ghost posted Johnson had the most (5) in far less minutes than the other guys listed. I would think with Saric being out Johnson would get more minutes, not less minutes, especially when Crowder got into foul trouble.

[RunDogGun]

We are winning and playing very well, changes are made when you need it.

Cam Johnson is playing very well but no way I would change rotations at this point of the season, we are close to winning our first championship ever. He plays solid minutes off the bench.

Crowder shot bad the other night...but who cares? He is a threat from three because every team knows that he can get hot and score 4 consecutives threes in a quarter at any moment. Teams respect his shooting and that create space automatically.

Well we have to make changes to the rotations, because Saric went down with an injury, hence my comment about minutes. I don't understand why I am getting so much pushback. I am suggesting we give more minutes and shots to a player that is our best three point shooter for the whole playoffs. Man that must just be crazy talk, huh? Who in the right mind would want our best shooter, who is also a very good defensive player (most deflections in game one, even though he played 13 less minutes than the next guy) and played good defense on Giannis, to get more minutes and shots?

I care that Jae shot poorly, because he wasn't shooting to make shots, but instead draw fouls, fell to the floor multiple times, and was out of position in transition. This is the finals! Obviously the coaches didn't like it, because Jae did try that crap tonight. He got set, and took better shots. He only took one really quick not set three, and only fell once, although he looked like he hurt himself doing it.

Either way, it seems silly to give even less minutes to Johnson, when he is shooting so well, and is playing very good defense.

Tonight Johnson got less minutes and less shots after playing a great game one, with the most deflections. I thought we would reward a player for that kind of stuff.

[RunDogGun]

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So Johnson gets one deflection for every four minutes he played, Jae gets one every eight minutes, and Johnson gets rewarded with less minutes. Sounds about right.

[Saberestar]

We are winning and playing very well, changes are made when you need it.

Cam Johnson is playing very well but no way I would change rotations at this point of the season, we are close to winning our first championship ever. He plays solid minutes off the bench.

Crowder shot bad the other night...but who cares? He is a threat from three because every team knows that he can get hot and score 4 consecutives threes in a quarter at any moment. Teams respect his shooting and that create space automatically.

Well we have to make changes to the rotations, because Saric went down with an injury, hence my comment about minutes. I don't understand why I am getting so much pushback. I am suggesting we give more minutes and shots to a player that is our best three point shooter for the whole playoffs. Man that must just be crazy talk, huh? Who in the right mind would want our best shooter, who is also a very good defensive player (most deflections in game one, even though he played 13 less minutes than the next guy) and played good defense on Giannis, to get more minutes and shots?

I care that Jae shot poorly, because he wasn't shooting to make shots, but instead draw fouls, fell to the floor multiple times, and was out of position in transition. This is the finals! Obviously the coaches didn't like it, because Jae did try that crap tonight. He got set, and took better shots. He only took one really quick not set three, and only fell once, although he looked like he hurt himself doing it.

Either way, it seems silly to give even less minutes to Johnson, when he is shooting so well, and is playing very good defense.

Tonight Johnson got less minutes and less shots after playing a great game one, with the most deflections. I thought we would reward a player for that kind of stuff.

We are 2-0 in the Finals. Monty is doing a terrific job, results over narrative.

Monty is giving to all our starters more minutes per game in the playoffs and they are getting the job done.

All our starters are meshing perfectly, they have balance. Is is a legendary starting five.

Cam Payne and Cam Johnson are probably playing less minutes that they deserve because their nice playing, but that is the beauty of a great team.

[RunDogGun]

Ugh, we aren't maximizing our players, last night we lived off shooting that hasn't been consistent all playoffs. We could easily die from it as well. We need to make better plays, better movement, and utilize our bench better. All we have done so far is take care of home court. It is ridiculous to just be complacent and only trust our starters, especially when we have equally capable starters on the bench. Craig could start for us, CamJ can and has started for us in the bubble, with basically the same unit, and he is even better this year. CamP has started in the playoffs and has done an amazing job. We need to maximize our players and bench giving rest to our starters, while still keeping starters on the floor. Right now our biggest issue is how we play when Ayton is not on the court. We keep losing players as games go by, we have to adjust and produce in other areas.