NBA FINALS: RD 4 l Game 2- Milwaukee Bucks @ Phoenix Suns l Thursday l 6:00 l ABC l Suns lead series (2-0)

[Barkley6]

We're really only playing the 2 Cam's largely to rest our starters or if we're in a really bad funk then they'll come in. But overall, I think Monty is content with riding our stars even if there's a few bad hero-ball possessions in a row. He trusts the fellas to play the right way

Its a mistake though, since CamJ could be a starter, and playing at high level on both ends of the court. He shouldn't be treated as just a filler. I also think its a mistake to give little time and little shots to our best playoff three point shooter. Hopefully Monty uses both Cams more in game three, which might throw Milw off, thinking Monty will just stick with the same rotations and timing of those rotations.

Maybe but it's working, we're in the Finals and again, it's working. I want the 2 Cam's to play more minutes too but I'm not gonna say it's a mistake since we're winning and it didn't feel like either G1 or G2 were ever in doubt.

If things go wayside then maybe we'll change things up but so far it's working.

If it ain't broke....

This entire playoffs no one has really found a way to stop BOTH CP3 and Booker. And as we get closer to a championship, I think they are only going to get better and more locked in.

[lilfishi22]

We have four players shooting in the 40s from three throughout these playoffs. They are CamJ (46%), Craig (45%), CP3(44%), and Saric (44%). Next highest is 35%. If we are going to shoot a lot of threes, it would be wiser for the guys in the mid 40% to be taking the bulk of those threes, right? When Mann was on fire in the last game of the Utah game, players got him the ball. I don't understand avoiding our best shooters, or simply just not putting them on the floor, unless they suck defensively, which Johnson and Craig do not.

I mean, it's working right now. Crowder showed up earlier than I expected (I thought maybe G3) and that's bought him more time. I do think that we were probably going to go with Cam a lot more in G6 against the Clippers if he had been available. Crowder was HOT trash that series.

[suns12345]

https://youtu.be/UKkCDP_mdxk
Gf and I pop up around 8:43. Had like 30 messages in a span of five minutes from people telling me they saw us on tv. A lot of friends/family weren’t aware of my travel plans since I made them last minute. RealGm knew first.

Best tickets ever since it was basically front row since the row ahead of us and even seats next to us were empty. I think they were empty because the arena didn’t want fans too close to players due to covid.

I briefly looked up your insta when you posted it, just incase you got on TV. Saw that clip and was pretty sure it was you.

[suns12345]

We have four players shooting in the 40s from three throughout these playoffs. They are CamJ (46%), Craig (45%), CP3(44%), and Saric (44%). Next highest is 35%. If we are going to shoot a lot of threes, it would be wiser for the guys in the mid 40% to be taking the bulk of those threes, right? When Mann was on fire in the last game of the Utah game, players got him the ball. I don't understand avoiding our best shooters, or simply just not putting them on the floor, unless they suck defensively, which Johnson and Craig do not.

I mean, it's working right now. Crowder showed up earlier than I expected (I thought maybe G3) and that's bought him more time. I do think that we were probably going to go with Cam a lot more in G6 against the Clippers if he had been available. Crowder was HOT trash that series.

I think guys like Craig can only shoot that percentage on low volume, and wide open catch and shoot threes.

Percentage isnt the most important indicator of being a good shooter (its obviously important - but its not a sole indicator of ability).

[RunDogGun]

I'm on board with a lot of what you're saying and it makes sense to me. To me, the only real argument is for Cam Johnson. CP3 is playing at an unbelievably high level and taking him off for extra rest has its downsides too. So really, it's just CamJ that has earned more minutes and Crowder who you could make an argument against playing him as much as we have.

That being said, I do think we will see more bench usage in the next couple of road games.

I hope so. I would hate to have the starters be gassed out and lose, giving Milw, a win, and momentum. But if we could have a balanced win with the bench playing at a high level with more minutes, we could close this out quickly. This could transfer over to next season, which lets face it, will be extremely tough. GSW will have Clay back, and two picks in the lotto. LAL will have their stars healthy, and probably multiple vets wanting to jump on that bandwagon. I think multiple team wins to close this out will be season building. Even if we run both Booker and CP3 38 minutes, CamP can still get 20 minutes. His speed and driving ability forces Milw in a different direction than CP3. Plus we can put pressure on Holiday full court, like CamP likes to do.

[RunDogGun]

We have four players shooting in the 40s from three throughout these playoffs. They are CamJ (46%), Craig (45%), CP3(44%), and Saric (44%). Next highest is 35%. If we are going to shoot a lot of threes, it would be wiser for the guys in the mid 40% to be taking the bulk of those threes, right? When Mann was on fire in the last game of the Utah game, players got him the ball. I don't understand avoiding our best shooters, or simply just not putting them on the floor, unless they suck defensively, which Johnson and Craig do not.

I mean, it's working right now. Crowder showed up earlier than I expected (I thought maybe G3) and that's bought him more time. I do think that we were probably going to go with Cam a lot more in G6 against the Clippers if he had been available. Crowder was HOT trash that series.

I think guys like Craig can only shoot that percentage on low volume, and wide open catch and shoot threes.

Percentage isnt the most important indicator of being a good shooter (its obviously important - but its not a sole indicator of ability).

So you are saying that after shooting 2-3 from three last night Craig would start missing because its just too many shots for him to handle? Or CamJ, would all of a sudden lose his shooting touch because of volume? I just never have heard of that. In fact, the more a shooter sees it go in, the more in the zone they get. Its why guys block a timeout or whistled shot from going in, to keep a shooter from seeing it go in.

Both have been our most consistent shooters from three, and because its over the whole playoffs, its enough of a sample size. Plus, as a shooter myself, once I get going, I usually have a rhythm, and the shots fall even better. They can still be catch and shoot threes, but what is great is Cam has also been great at driving to the hoop and making great things happen.

What I would really hate, is to have another team snatch these guys up promising them more minutes and a greater role, because we failed to do so.

[RunDogGun]

We have four players shooting in the 40s from three throughout these playoffs. They are CamJ (46%), Craig (45%), CP3(44%), and Saric (44%). Next highest is 35%. If we are going to shoot a lot of threes, it would be wiser for the guys in the mid 40% to be taking the bulk of those threes, right? When Mann was on fire in the last game of the Utah game, players got him the ball. I don't understand avoiding our best shooters, or simply just not putting them on the floor, unless they suck defensively, which Johnson and Craig do not.

I mean, it's working right now. Crowder showed up earlier than I expected (I thought maybe G3) and that's bought him more time. I do think that we were probably going to go with Cam a lot more in G6 against the Clippers if he had been available. Crowder was HOT trash that series.

Well he was getting set better last night. He only rushed one three, and missed, and only fell once, and that was in the corner. Unfortunately it looked like he hurt himself and landed in the Milw bench area. But the problem really is, will he take the time to get set, or will he rush the shot and brick it? We just don't know. But Johnson and Craig take rhythm threes, and overall play smarter, and as of now, are playing great on the defensive end too. I just don't know if Cam would have gotten more minutes had he been available game six, Monty just hasn't been rewarding CamJ with minutes he has clearly earned, and choosing a more physical yet less skilled player.

And I can't believe CamJ has also been doing his thesis during this year. The dude is just a smart human, and player.

[RunDogGun]

Its a mistake though, since CamJ could be a starter, and playing at high level on both ends of the court. He shouldn't be treated as just a filler. I also think its a mistake to give little time and little shots to our best playoff three point shooter. Hopefully Monty uses both Cams more in game three, which might throw Milw off, thinking Monty will just stick with the same rotations and timing of those rotations.

Maybe but it's working, we're in the Finals and again, it's working. I want the 2 Cam's to play more minutes too but I'm not gonna say it's a mistake since we're winning and it didn't feel like either G1 or G2 were ever in doubt.

If things go wayside then maybe we'll change things up but so far it's working.

If it ain't broke....

This entire playoffs no one has really found a way to stop BOTH CP3 and Booker. And as we get closer to a championship, I think they are only going to get better and more locked in.

CamJ isn't broke, so why try and limit his minutes? As we have seen, both CP3 and Book can stop themselves, by trying to hero ball it. I just don't understand not using our best and most consistent shooters. It was like the Detroit game, where Galloway was shooting insanely in the second quarter, gets 17 points, then gets less than three minutes the rest of the game and two shots. We lost that game. We just don't use our players. Now I can understand if the player difference was Ayton compared to Frank, But Johnson is on the same level and often better than Crowder. Why not feed our best three point shooter(s)? Why not run plays to get them open shots? It is like when Ayton is shooting 90%, we stop feeding him the ball, I just don't get it.

And didn't you say you think Milw will win game three? Why have our starters play huge minutes again and lose? Try something different to counter their home game and crowd, by getting our best shooters more minutes and shots.

[suns12345]

I mean, it's working right now. Crowder showed up earlier than I expected (I thought maybe G3) and that's bought him more time. I do think that we were probably going to go with Cam a lot more in G6 against the Clippers if he had been available. Crowder was HOT trash that series.

I think guys like Craig can only shoot that percentage on low volume, and wide open catch and shoot threes.

Percentage isnt the most important indicator of being a good shooter (its obviously important - but its not a sole indicator of ability).

So you are saying that after shooting 2-3 from three last night Craig would start missing because its just too many shots for him to handle? Or CamJ, would all of a sudden lose his shooting touch because of volume? I just never have heard of that. In fact, the more a shooter sees it go in, the more in the zone they get. Its why guys block a timeout or whistled shot from going in, to keep a shooter from seeing it go in.

Both have been our most consistent shooters from three, and because its over the whole playoffs, its enough of a sample size. Plus, as a shooter myself, once I get going, I usually have a rhythm, and the shots fall even better. They can still be catch and shoot threes, but what is great is Cam has also been great at driving to the hoop and making great things happen.

What I would really hate, is to have another team snatch these guys up promising them more minutes and a greater role, because we failed to do so.

Good grief, firstly, i only referred specifically to Craig, I think we can get CamJ more looks off screens or whatever it may be as he is capable of hitting those type of shots.

My point though - which you ignored - is that guys like Craig only shoot wide open catch and shoot threes. As a shooter you would know, some guys don't have the footwork, balance, confidence, whatever else to knockdown more difficult threes off the dribble or on the move. I think its pretty obvious that Craig is only comfortable in those wide open scenarios and his offensive game is fairly limited.

Now, im not saying Craig would miss more if he got more shots, but I am saying that you only generate a certain limited number of wide open threes a game, so if we wanted Craig to take more threes, he would need to start hunting more difficult shots, and likely shoot a worse percentage.

[Keith_myath]

Just remember, folks; this is Frank's team. Frank is taking us to glory.

2 finals appearances for 2 wins. It's not a coincidence.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Matt Petersen (@TheMattPetersen) Tweeted:
NBA Finals shooting stats so far:

DRIVES

Suns: 55 pts, 53.8 FG%
Bucks: 40 pts, 40.5 FG%

CATCH AND SHOOT

Suns: 75 pts, 45.6 FG%
Bucks: 59 pts, 40.8 FG%

PULL UP

Suns: 66 pts, 42.6 FG%
Bucks: 44 pts, 35.8 FG%

PAINT TOUCH PTS

Suns: 37 pts, 68.2 FG%
Bucks: 37 pts, 53.3 FG%

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[RunDogGun]

Good grief, firstly, i only referred specifically to Craig, I think we can get CamJ more looks off screens or whatever it may be as he is capable of hitting those type of shots.

My point though - which you ignored - is that guys like Craig only shoot wide open catch and shoot threes. As a shooter you would know, some guys don't have the footwork, balance, confidence, whatever else to knockdown more difficult threes off the dribble or on the move. I think its pretty obvious that Craig is only comfortable in those wide open scenarios and his offensive game is fairly limited.

Now, im not saying Craig would miss more if he got more shots, but I am saying that you only generate a certain limited number of wide open threes a game, so if we wanted Craig to take more threes, he would need to start hunting more difficult shots, and likely shoot a worse percentage.

Oh, I am sorry, i thought when you said "low volume" that you meant "low volume". Most of our guys take catch and shoot threes. It is part of the plan. It is why they stand by the three point line waiting for the guards to drive and dish. I am fine with Craig taking in rhythm catch and shoot threes, and he is more than capable to "have the percentage he has(45% for the playoffs)" increasing the "volume" of those threes, unless his knee affects his stance and shot.

[Qwigglez]

backwards cap guy or forward cap guy?

So you were both wearing purple Booker jerseys?

Yessir!

Looking STAUNCH! Way to represent RealGM!

Thanks! Really wanted to bring a sign to say something but then forgot last minute

I briefly looked up your insta when you posted it, just incase you got on TV. Saw that clip and was pretty sure it was you.

Ha! Even had people on Twitter hit me up and post screenshots asking if that was me. Mind you, these are folks that watched me stream on Twitch playing Pokemon Go, so it's crazy to see they were paying attention even to recognize that it was me.