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Game 20: Phoenix Suns (16-3) @ Brooklyn Nets (14-5), Saturday, Nov 27, 5:30 PM

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Re: Game 20: Phoenix Suns (16-3) @ Brooklyn Nets (14-5), Saturday, Nov 27, 5:30 PM 

Post#101 » by TheLoon » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:59 am

I was never nervous...Durant was gonna do Durant things...but that Crowder put back was the dagger
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Post#102 » by SunsRback4Good » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:01 am

But but Suns only played weak teams they've had such an easy schedule. But but once they play the Jazz, Nets, Bucks, Warriors, Heat etc they'll come back down to earth. But but but....
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Post#103 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 am

Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared
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Post#104 » by Slim Charless » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:42 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:But but Suns only played weak teams they've had such a weak schedule. But but once they play the Jazz, Nets, Bucks, Warriors, Heat etc they'll come back down to earth. But but but....


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Post#105 » by sunsbg » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:29 am

Now this was a statement game beating a title contender on their floor while leading all game.

Booker and Bridges were fantastic in first half. Book's only misses from three were those rushed 2 for 1 at end of 1st qtr. Nice to see Mikal's D reflected in the box-score - 7 steals.

Crowder had one of those games where he misses everything, but then he goes for a win clinching put-back. Ayton was a ghost overall. One of those games you wonder if he's sick or something. No energy, no focus. Outplayed by 50yo Aldridge and Bembry was scoring inside whenever he wanted. Great that CP3 controlled the game as usual and compensated for the lack of scoring from DA and JC.
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Post#106 » by sunsbg » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:52 am

Also worth noting, it's so much better to watch games vs Harden with the new officiating. The guy tried at least twice to simulate a foul on a 3, but was not rewarded. Book with one play in 3rd trying to jump into Bembry to draw a foul with just a few secs on the clock resulting in a TO was another example of not rewarding foul-fishing.
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Post#107 » by Bogyo » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:10 am

sunsbg wrote:Also worth noting, it's so much better to watch games vs Harden with the new officiating. The guy tried at least twice to simulate a foul on a 3, but was not rewarded. Book with one play in 3rd trying to jump into Bembry to draw a foul with just a few secs on the clock resulting in a TO was another example of not rewarding foul-fishing.


Partially this is why I asked in another thread if Harden is still a top 10 player. And I think the right answer is no.
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Post#108 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:27 am

If Booker's pull up 3 is this good and consistant in playoffs we can win it all, I know he works on it all the time. Was so happy to see him attacking the rim when he got the opportunity as that's also a key against the best teams, he can get his mid-range anytime so seeking out efficient ways to score will help us when it's game 6 or 7 next time.

I was wrong about McGee now that he's acclimated he's worth everything we've paid him. Bridges 7 steals on track for All-Defensive and made the right call in which player was less risk to lock away long term.

We played so well in this road trip apart from some tiredness late in games we were playing Suns basketball, very Spurs like. Is this the least hyped 16 game win streak in NBA history, especially from an NBA finalist?

I'm not putting too much stock into the GSW games coming up (we beat Milwaukee twice last year) teams tend to learn more from losses than wins so there's something positive no matter the result.
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Post#109 » by Saberestar » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:38 am

This game was fun. We were on the driver's seat all game long and with CP3 and Book on the court I am always comfortable at the end of games.

This team hasn't have any holes, we have it all and we show it night in and night out. To me there is no question that we are favorites to win the West.

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Post#110 » by SunsRback4Good » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:42 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If Booker's pull up 3 is this good and consistant in playoffs we can win it all, I know he works on it all the time. Was so happy to see him attacking the rim when he got the opportunity as that's also a key against the best teams.

I was wrong about McGee now that he's acclimated he's worth everything we've paid him.

Bridges 7 steals on track for All-Defensive and made the right call in which player was less risk to lock away long term.

Is this the least hyped 16 game win streak in NBA history, especially from an NBA finalist?

Probably, since our streak ballooned to 10+ games I hadn't notice any activity about it on GB aside from few threads in which one was " who is better suns or warriors but that had nothing to do with the streak. Suns never seem to receive recognition no matter what they accomplish. Ask yourself this question, if the warriors, nets, lakers, Knicks, 76ers, Heat, bulls or celtics won this many games, how many threads on GB + ESPN would be talking nonstop about that glorious achievement? While Phoenix is quietly being slept on which is same reminder as last year. But like Bridges stated when asked why nobody talks about Phoenix more he responded " we only worry about our team I don't care if ESPN or other media outlets ignore us" <<< something along those lines.

Before I cared what the media said about my team or how often they were talked about but now I could care less and just want a damn championship. And truthfully it's coming this year folks. This is our year as our bench has gotten better with mcgee/shamet acquisitions, an extra year for both Cams & bridges to improve. Also, love seeing Crowder take it inside as opposed to only shooting threes.

You cannot game plan against a team who share the ball beautifully and hardly commit turnovers. We're a replica of those mid 2000s spurs team with an insane team chemistry.
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Re: Game 20: Phoenix Suns (16-3) @ Brooklyn Nets (14-5), Saturday, Nov 27, 5:30 PM 

Post#111 » by bigfoot » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:57 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:If Booker's pull up 3 is this good and consistant in playoffs we can win it all, I know he works on it all the time. Was so happy to see him attacking the rim when he got the opportunity as that's also a key against the best teams.

I was wrong about McGee now that he's acclimated he's worth everything we've paid him.

Bridges 7 steals on track for All-Defensive and made the right call in which player was less risk to lock away long term.

Is this the least hyped 16 game win streak in NBA history, especially from an NBA finalist?

Probably, since our streak ballooned to 10+ games I hadn't notice any activity about it on GB aside from few threads in which one was " who is better suns or warriors but that had nothing to do with the streak. Suns never seem to receive recognition no matter what they accomplish. Ask yourself this question, if the warriors, nets, lakers, Knicks, 76ers, Heat, bulls or celtics won this many games, how many threads on GB + ESPN would be talking nonstop about that glorious achievement? While Phoenix is quietly being slept on which is same reminder as last year. But like Bridges stated when asked why nobody talks about Phoenix more he responded " we only worry about our team I don't care if ESPN or other media outlets ignore us" <<< something along those lines.

Before I cared what the media said about my team or how often they were talked about but now I could care less and just want a damn championship. And truthfully it's coming this year folks. This is our year as our bench has gotten better with mcgee/shamet acquisitions, an extra year for both Cams & bridges to improve. Also, love seeing Crowder take it inside as opposed to only shooting threes.

You cannot game plan against a team who share the ball beautifully and hardly commit turnovers. We're a replica of those mid 2000s spurs team with an insane team chemistry.


Let's just hope our big 3 players are willing to sacrifice on their contracts as Manu and Parker did in order to keep the team together.
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Post#112 » by bhawk » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:21 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared


It's been a lot of games this season. Ayton rarely contests or trys for offensive rebounds. He doesn't follow the balls like he should. Just sluffs off and gets back on D. If the dude played more agressive and with more energy and heart, he would be SO good. Just don't see it so far. He has regressed.

I do think his contract is part of this and his early thigh contusion. He is playing not to get hurt. First couple of games before the injury, I was like LET'S GO! He was dominant for a couple of those early games. Now, he can't get hurt, so he has backed off.
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Post#113 » by NapoleonII » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:26 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:If Booker's pull up 3 is this good and consistant in playoffs we can win it all, I know he works on it all the time. Was so happy to see him attacking the rim when he got the opportunity as that's also a key against the best teams.

I was wrong about McGee now that he's acclimated he's worth everything we've paid him.

Bridges 7 steals on track for All-Defensive and made the right call in which player was less risk to lock away long term.

Is this the least hyped 16 game win streak in NBA history, especially from an NBA finalist?

Probably, since our streak ballooned to 10+ games I hadn't notice any activity about it on GB aside from few threads in which one was " who is better suns or warriors but that had nothing to do with the streak. Suns never seem to receive recognition no matter what they accomplish. Ask yourself this question, if the warriors, nets, lakers, Knicks, 76ers, Heat, bulls or celtics won this many games, how many threads on GB + ESPN would be talking nonstop about that glorious achievement? While Phoenix is quietly being slept on which is same reminder as last year. But like Bridges stated when asked why nobody talks about Phoenix more he responded " we only worry about our team I don't care if ESPN or other media outlets ignore us" <<< something along those lines.

Before I cared what the media said about my team or how often they were talked about but now I could care less and just want a damn championship. And truthfully it's coming this year folks. This is our year as our bench has gotten better with mcgee/shamet acquisitions, an extra year for both Cams & bridges to improve. Also, love seeing Crowder take it inside as opposed to only shooting threes.

You cannot game plan against a team who share the ball beautifully and hardly commit turnovers. We're a replica of those mid 2000s spurs team with an insane team chemistry.


I think we're a hybrid of the 2013/14 Spurs and Kobe's 2009/10 Lakers, but built for this era. We got those Spurs communication, unselfish play and beautiful ball movement, but the Lakers' sort of versatility, size, and a top shooting guard in his prime.


Booker is a near-replica of second half career Kobe - he will kill a team in spurts, 13-15 points a quarter, but has to balance not taking over too much, provides decent D, insane mid-range and closing ability.

Bridges is our young Kawhi, a workhorse on D, someone who can't run an offense but will hit threes with excellent D, run in transition, cut all game, and making winning basketball plays.

Ayton is our size, our rebounding and (in the playoffs last year especially) a defensive anchor like Bynum, a finisher and also a decent free-throw shooter and mid-range for a big ala Pau Gasol.

CP3 is sort of the PG version of Tim Duncan, like we know he's only got 2-3 years left, but he'll have flashes of his prime which is all this team needs, and his personality just wills victory and is the heart and soul of the team.

The rest of team provides vet leadership, 3 point shooting, and a cohesive group to compliment our main guys.
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Post#114 » by sasquatchBob » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:06 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared


I was thinking the same. Probably did some partying in NY :D
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lilfishi22 wrote:Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared


It's been a lot of games this season. Ayton rarely contests or trys for offensive rebounds. He doesn't follow the balls like he should. Just sluffs off and gets back on D. If the dude played more agressive and with more energy and heart, he would be SO good. Just don't see it so far. He has regressed.

I do think his contract is part of this and his early thigh contusion. He is playing not to get hurt. First couple of games before the injury, I was like LET'S GO! He was dominant for a couple of those early games. Now, he can't get hurt, so he has backed off.


He's been pretty disappointing with lack of offensive rebounds in the last two after being among the league leaders prior to that. I know he's not always in position to get them like many other Cs given much of our game plan is to move him out to screen for Book or Paul, but his lack of defensive rebounds was surprising given he is usually strong there. I understand with all of our switching and him getting switched onto perimeter players, especially with a team playing smaller like the Nets, being out of position due to the switching,but it was definitely a down game for him. Sometimes it does seem to happen on occasion when he's not involved in the offense early. For awhile it seems like they were involving him more to start the game but I understand with Booker hot, you gotta go with him. But he needs to be engaged regardless like he has been more often, even if not as involved in the offense early.
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Post#116 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:08 pm

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lilfishi22 wrote:Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared


It's been a lot of games this season. Ayton rarely contests or trys for offensive rebounds. He doesn't follow the balls like he should. Just sluffs off and gets back on D. If the dude played more agressive and with more energy and heart, he would be SO good. Just don't see it so far. He has regressed.

I do think his contract is part of this and his early thigh contusion. He is playing not to get hurt. First couple of games before the injury, I was like LET'S GO! He was dominant for a couple of those early games. Now, he can't get hurt, so he has backed off.

Frustrating thing is that he did contest for rebounds. Last season he was one of the best in the league on the offensive boards having ranked #5 in total offensive rebounds and #6 on offensive rebounding percentage. This season he's dropped to #26 in total offensive rebounds (he did miss a bunch of games) and #14 on offensive rebounding percentage. McGee is actually #23 and #2 respectively but he's always been a good rebounder in low minutes.
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lilfishi22 wrote:Ayton really disappointed in this game. It didn't seem like he played with energy tonight. He normally gets a bunch of points just off rebounds and hustle but he didn't do much of that and his field goals were mostly forced post ups which were out of the flow of the offense.

It's disappointing because this is one of those games where he could've had a huge game. There wasn't anyone that could match him in the paint but he just disappeared


It's been a lot of games this season. Ayton rarely contests or trys for offensive rebounds. He doesn't follow the balls like he should. Just sluffs off and gets back on D. If the dude played more agressive and with more energy and heart, he would be SO good. Just don't see it so far. He has regressed.

I do think his contract is part of this and his early thigh contusion. He is playing not to get hurt. First couple of games before the injury, I was like LET'S GO! He was dominant for a couple of those early games. Now, he can't get hurt, so he has backed off.

Frustrating thing is that he did contest for rebounds. Last season he was one of the best in the league on the offensive boards having ranked #5 in total offensive rebounds and #6 on offensive rebounding percentage. This season he's dropped to #26 in total offensive rebounds (he did miss a bunch of games) and #14 on offensive rebounding percentage. McGee is actually #23 and #2 respectively but he's always been a good rebounder in low minutes.


It also helps when you can't switch out onto other players so you basically stand around the rim all the time. Much of the same reason Gobert leads the NBA, Capela is so good, etc.

It was a bit frustrating I will say in regards to Ayton is that we went like 6 minutes without scoring and didn't get him the ball once.
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Post#119 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:43 pm

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