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Iceman36 wrote:Just finished. Great team effort. Ayton is starting to become my favourite Suns player. We have to max him and keep him under all circumstances. Future looks bright for our beloved franchise!
Please guys, conquer that damn ring, so we can get finally away from that succesful franchise never winning a title talks!
TheLoon wrote:Saberestar wrote:Book&Ayton look tonight like Kobe&Shaq.
Calm down...love your optimism but that is a stretch
Saberestar wrote:TheLoon wrote:Saberestar wrote:Book&Ayton look tonight like Kobe&Shaq.
Calm down...love your optimism but that is a stretch
Well, I said that they looked like them in this particular game. That's not an stretch.
TheLoon wrote:Saberestar wrote:TheLoon wrote:
Calm down...love your optimism but that is a stretch
Well, I said that they looked like them in this particular game. That's not an stretch.
Listen...I love love Ayton and Book...but they don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe or Shaq...we can revisit in 10 years
RunDogGun wrote:Every coach preaches rebounding, at every level. What is kind of funny is the counter argument implies that Monty just failed to stress rebounding the other night, and that is why we allowed Toronto to get so many offensive boards.Barkley6 wrote:thamadkant wrote:
why?
rebounding is mostly player-side effort. Coaches always preach securing the boards, players need to put the extra effort to chase them though. Crowder was awake this game thats for sure, he was focusing on rebounds.
It's also adjustments based on the scouting report. Because the Pacers are a terrible shooting team, the Suns are able to sink off shooters and crash the boards on the defensive end more freely. Rather than scrambling on a closeout that takes your momentum away from the rim (this happens to Crowder a lot).
Also, even if rebounding was just individual effort, the fact that Monty preached it and they bought into what he was preaching is evidence that he's a good coach and they want to play well for him.
Monty is a good coach, great motivator, and nice guy, but he has a ton of work to do to get to a Pop level. I still feel that he lost us a chip. Now the counter is he is also one of the the reasons we had the chance to get one. But when you lose four in a row in the finals, the coaching staff failed to make adjustments.
SunsRback4Good wrote:TheLoon wrote:Saberestar wrote:Well, I said that they looked like them in this particular game. That's not an stretch.
Listen...I love love Ayton and Book...but they don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe or Shaq...we can revisit in 10 years
Who made you the prime minister of basketball? Let the man compare who he wants to compare with, he isn't hurting a soul with his comparisons so who cares???
Nothing really to debate in the first place. Coaches all preach defense and rebounding. It then is up to the players to do the work. I don't think Monty did much of anything that caused our guys to rebound more, since there wasn't much practice between games, and the players have to do all the effort. I just don't see how rebounding between two games is something you can put on a coach, unless he showed them some new way to rebound that the players never learned before. As a coach myself at a middle school level, I could see a difference after a full practice of working on rebounding skills, from guys/gals who put into practice what I taught them. But a pro level, I just don't see a coach getting that same result and or teaching players skills they don't already know. At that point, all he really did is tell them to rebound, and then the players are the ones actually doing it.Barkley6 wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Every coach preaches rebounding, at every level. What is kind of funny is the counter argument implies that Monty just failed to stress rebounding the other night, and that is why we allowed Toronto to get so many offensive boards.Barkley6 wrote:
It's also adjustments based on the scouting report. Because the Pacers are a terrible shooting team, the Suns are able to sink off shooters and crash the boards on the defensive end more freely. Rather than scrambling on a closeout that takes your momentum away from the rim (this happens to Crowder a lot).
Also, even if rebounding was just individual effort, the fact that Monty preached it and they bought into what he was preaching is evidence that he's a good coach and they want to play well for him.
Monty is a good coach, great motivator, and nice guy, but he has a ton of work to do to get to a Pop level. I still feel that he lost us a chip. Now the counter is he is also one of the the reasons we had the chance to get one. But when you lose four in a row in the finals, the coaching staff failed to make adjustments.
Coaches all preach effort on defense, but Monty is the one getting Booker to buy into it. I dont think anyone is expecting him to be at Pop level in year 3. Pop wasn't even the coach he was now in his 3rd year. Pop is also arguably one of the best all time. It's like saying Ayton isn't quite at Olajuwon level. Well...yeah.
But Monty is definitely in the top half of coaches in this league and after the Earl Watsons and Terry Porters of the world, I'm very very pleased to have Monty.
He made a good adjustment from the previous night against a team (Indiana) that is good on the boards. What else is there to debate?