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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#101 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:44 am

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SunsReadyToRoll wrote:What is your point? I was talking about the first quarter not predicting the whole game.


Point? TJ was just reacting to that crazy first quarter score.


Ahhh, I get it now. :lol:
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#102 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:46 am

JTrain wrote:It will be close. I think Westbrook comes back when they are something like 7-16. Durant will probably be another 10 games after that. It depends how the team does with just Westbrook.

I think they slip in at 6 or 7 probably. But it wouldn't shock me if they didn't, especially if those guys take longer than that to get back in.


Yeah I was thinking Westbrook was out longer. Didn't know he was only out 3 more weeks. It'll be tough still. They should blow up the team and give us Ibaka.


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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#103 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:27 am

As good as Ibaka is, I never envisioned him as being the marquee big man we needed to make us a contender.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#104 » by DRK » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:As good as Ibaka is, I never envisioned him as being the marquee big man we needed to make us a contender.


Well he can hit the three ball, and also patrol the paint and swat shots.

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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#105 » by JTrain » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:32 am

Hold on... if a foul is called, the clock stops on the whistle and any shot continuation is untimed, correct?

The Hornets got fouled with 0.2 seconds left going the rim, and the ball release was after that (the clock continued and hit 0 just before the release). Why did they not review it?
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#106 » by Sunsss » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:41 am

JTrain wrote:Hold on... if a foul is called, the clock stops on the whistle and any shot continuation is untimed, correct?

The Hornets got fouled with 0.2 seconds left going the rim, and the ball release was after that (the clock continued and hit 0 just before the release). Why did they not review it?

They didn't call a foul.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#107 » by JTrain » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:42 am

SportsCenter was confusing me.
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Post#108 » by spanishninja » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:51 am

welp Warriors lost again. along with the Kobe record this has been a good night.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#109 » by Revived » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:59 am

A lot of our fellow WCF foes are winning such close games against ECF teams, I hate it.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#110 » by Revived » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:03 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Honestly, how can anyone deny if Frye was doing what he's doing in in Orlando but in Phoenix this year, we're a much better team.

A) This was his first good game B) They still lost C) Still isn't worth even close to $8M/per year.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#111 » by Zelaznyrules » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:17 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Honestly, how can anyone deny if Frye was doing what he's doing in in Orlando but in Phoenix this year, we're a much better team.

A) This was his first good game B) They still lost C) Still isn't worth even close to $8M/per year.


I think he's easily worth 8 million to the right team. And an offense based on penetration from multiple players is the right team. But if letting him go is just the first step in moving towards a more traditional team, I'm all for it.
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Post#112 » by Revived » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:23 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Honestly, how can anyone deny if Frye was doing what he's doing in in Orlando but in Phoenix this year, we're a much better team.

A) This was his first good game B) They still lost C) Still isn't worth even close to $8M/per year.


I think he's easily worth 8 million to the right team. And an offense based on penetration from multiple players is the right team. But if letting him go is just the first step in moving towards a more traditional team, I'm all for it.

Ha, I wish. We won't ever be a traditional team with Hornacek as HC with his dual PG lineup thing.

Not saying that Hornacek is wrong, we did win 48 games last season with that system. But I don't think we'll ever see a traditional team under this HC.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#113 » by Zelaznyrules » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:32 am

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SF88 wrote:A) This was his first good game B) They still lost C) Still isn't worth even close to $8M/per year.


I think he's easily worth 8 million to the right team. And an offense based on penetration from multiple players is the right team. But if letting him go is just the first step in moving towards a more traditional team, I'm all for it.

Ha, I wish. We won't ever be a traditional team with Hornacek as HC with his dual PG lineup thing.

Not saying that Hornacek is wrong, we did win 48 games last season with that system. But I don't think we'll ever see a traditional team under this HC.


I'm not so sure about Hornacek. I think we ended up with the two point guard lineup because there was a firesale on an up and coming guard so we took what was available. I think the same thing is true with the Thomas signing.

When we hired Jeff we weren't on our way to the finals, we were a horrible team with no future that needed to start somewhere. Now we have assets that others might covet. I really think that if the Clippers had a fire sale that made D. Jordan available and if Detroit decided to bail on Drummond we could just as easily gone to the other extreme. Granted, teams don't usually have fire sales involving big guys but you get the point. You could be right about him but it's too early to tell IMO.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#114 » by Revived » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:47 am

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I think he's easily worth 8 million to the right team. And an offense based on penetration from multiple players is the right team. But if letting him go is just the first step in moving towards a more traditional team, I'm all for it.

Ha, I wish. We won't ever be a traditional team with Hornacek as HC with his dual PG lineup thing.

Not saying that Hornacek is wrong, we did win 48 games last season with that system. But I don't think we'll ever see a traditional team under this HC.


I'm not so sure about Hornacek. I think we ended up with the two point guard lineup because there was a firesale on an up and coming guard so we took what was available. I think the same thing is true with the Thomas signing.

When we hired Jeff we weren't on our way to the finals, we were a horrible team with no future that needed to start somewhere. Now we have assets that others might covet. I really think that if the Clippers had a fire sale that made D. Jordan available and if Detroit decided to bail on Drummond we could just as easily gone to the other extreme. Granted, teams don't usually have fire sales involving big guys but you get the point. You could be right about him but it's too early to tell IMO.

I'll try to find the link later but I think Hornacek said something to the tune of "When I became HC of this team, I knew I wanted to run a 2 PG offense just like back when I played here with KJ" or something to the tune of that.

As for PGs assets, the PG position is the strongest position in the NBA. Yes there are still teams who would love to have Dragic, Bledsoe or Thomas on their teams but not many imo.

I'm hoping Atlanta is one of them with Teague being inferior to our guards and hopefully leads to a trade for Horford or Millsap.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#115 » by NTB » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:08 am

Referees were awful at Kings - Mavs game... They made the Mavericks comeback.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#116 » by Zelaznyrules » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:42 pm

SF88 wrote:I'll try to find the link later but I think Hornacek said something to the tune of "When I became HC of this team, I knew I wanted to run a 2 PG offense just like back when I played here with KJ" or something to the tune of that.

As for PGs assets, the PG position is the strongest position in the NBA. Yes there are still teams who would love to have Dragic, Bledsoe or Thomas on their teams but not many imo.

I'm hoping Atlanta is one of them with Teague being inferior to our guards and hopefully leads to a trade for Horford or Millsap.


You're right, he did say something along those lines. But it was after he ended up with two point guard starters, I'm not sure how much it really means. I am sure though that he'd love to have two point guards like KJ and himself. That's not quite what he has though. Jeff could play the point but he made himself into one of the best shooters in the game, neither Eric nor Goran are anywhere close to being that kind of guard.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#117 » by JTrain » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:53 pm

SF88 wrote:I'll try to find the link later but I think Hornacek said something to the tune of "When I became HC of this team, I knew I wanted to run a 2 PG offense just like back when I played here with KJ" or something to the tune of that.


"It's not like last year necessarily Jeff came to his interview and said, 'I want two point guards'. People say he has this system. That's not really what happened. What really happened was, we got the players and then he devised the system."

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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#118 » by Revived » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:12 am

An easy schedule to start the season just got even easier

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... t-date-set

We won't have to worry about Blake Griffin dropping 40 pts on us.

If Hornacek can get his team to stop playing down to the level of the bad teams they play, the Suns should have a pretty good record come mid December.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#119 » by spanishninja » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:18 am

SF88 wrote:An easy schedule to start the season just got even easier

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... t-date-set

We won't have to worry about Blake Griffin dropping 40 pts on us.

If Hornacek can get his team to stop playing down to the level of the bad teams they play, the Suns should have a pretty good record come mid December.


I mean, I SUPPOSE he might still make it to the game if the court date is in the morning and he just jets it from Vegas to LA right afterwards, but an even better assurance would be a suspension :)
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#120 » by Flying Colors » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:37 am

84 points given up during the first half? Man Denver is imploding, they are to going to burn everything down and send everyone off at this rate, we might be able to snag a good player on the cheap, what do you guys think?
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