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Frank Lee · Post #101 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:37 pm

We had a good rivalry with the Sonics... in the DJ days. He was cold blooded. Used to come out early to shoot solo...before games. We'd heckle him , getting there early to snag never used down low seats we had scoped out games before. Sat in the same ones the whole yr, right on the rail of the ice rink (go roadrunners) ... DJ would drain shots, we'd chime in, he'd never look at us while shooting, but would make a chicken beak jester with his hand... then the F-er would gaze us down with those sullen icy eyes as he walked off... knowing he'd be back to take our souls. (that was our take)

Then we got him :clap:

...Then we lost him :banghead:

the end

Post #102 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:39 pm

Frank Lee wrote:We had a good rivalry with the Sonics... in the DJ days. He was cold blooded. Used to come out early for 45 mins a shoot before games. We'd heckle him , getting there early to snag never used down low seats we had scoped out games before. Sat in the same ones the whole yr, right on the rail of the ice rink (go roadrunners) ... DJ would drain shots, we chime in, he'd never look at us while shooting, but would make a chicken beak jester with his hand... then the F-er would gaze us down with those sullen icy eyes as he walked off... knowing he'd be back to take our souls. (that was our take)

Then we got him ...Then we lost him

the end

Had an exciting series back in the early 2000s too..in the first round. We lost the series, but I got to see the crazy Chapman shot live.

Frank Lee · Post #103 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:43 pm

damn you ... I always have to edit... usually add...you jump in so damn fast. DONT YOU WORK or something :lol:

I miss the madhouse days... and the $6.00 GAs... that was '78-79.

bigfoot · Post #104 » by **bigfoot** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:55 pm

Frank Lee wrote:We had a good rivalry with the Sonics... in the DJ days. He was cold blooded. Used to come out early to shoot solo...before games. We'd heckle him , getting there early to snag never used down low seats we had scoped out games before. Sat in the same ones the whole yr, right on the rail of the ice rink (go roadrunners) ... DJ would drain shots, we'd chime in, he'd never look at us while shooting, but would make a chicken beak jester with his hand... then the F-er would gaze us down with those sullen icy eyes as he walked off... knowing he'd be back to take our souls. (that was our take)

Then we got him ...Then we lost him

the end

I really hated Sikma in those days. He always seemed to kill us when the Suns played the Sonics.

phrazbit · Post #105 » by **phrazbit** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:22 pm

The breakout year with Nash I remember the Sonics were the other big surprise team in the league.

We had a couple thrilling games against them in the regular season.

Post #106 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:46 pm

Frank Lee wrote:damn you ... I always have to edit... usually add...you jump in so damn fast. DONT YOU WORK or something

I miss the madhouse days... and the $6.00 GAs... that was '78-79.

It's funny, I usually only check here and there during the day, but usually check more often at night. But I do find that I often will check RIGHT when someone posts and respond quickly and they probably think I'm on here 24/7.

Post #107 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:11 am

Time to sign up and give YOUR thought to our current season!

chaplin1 · Post #108 » by **chaplin1** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:11 pm

I've been a lurker for several years, since the mid-2000s I'd expect, and know some of the people here from ASFN, where I'm active, but never posted here.

I do get most of my "news" about the Suns, especially breaking news, from here, so for that I'm appreciative. And it's much more active here as far as frequency of posting.

As for the team, I'm more of a "jury is out" kind of person. On paper, we should have a playoff team, I firmly believe that, but the question really is if it can come together, and for that we have to rely on Hornacek. I really believe that Tyson Chandler will make a huge difference with this team. My biggest question mark is by far Brandon Knight and whether he will work, not only with Bledsoe, but with the team as a whole. He hasn't done much so far, but it's early and only preseason, where I don't think anything means anything. Basically a way to play players that won't play regularly and give fans a cheaper way to see the team play. That's pretty much it.

Post #109 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:36 pm

Hey Chap! Good to see some new posters.
On paper, I think we look like a fringe playoff team. I think it's all about team chemistry. If we vibe right, then I believe we can have a fun season winning 50-52 games. If players are selfish, then maybe we break .500. I'm not convinced this is the final product however for the season. I think once players are eligible for trade, we may see a different product on the court by February.
I'm really enjoying watching the young guys play (Len, Booker, and Warren). I think those guys have tremendous upside. I have my concerns with Knight as well, but I want to give him a fair opportunity this season to see what he's got.

Tahleron · Post #110 » by **Tahleron** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:23 am

I see a team that can battle it out for the 8th spot (and as it stands right now, would be the favourite), but that could well be around the .500 mark. I though Utah would be, but i'm not sure their defense can hold up to the disaster than is the Burke and Burks back court.

Post #111 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:20 am

chaplin1 wrote:I've been a lurker for several years, since the mid-2000s I'd expect, and know some of the people here from ASFN, where I'm active, but never posted here.

I do get most of my "news" about the Suns, especially breaking news, from here, so for that I'm appreciative. And it's much more active here as far as frequency of posting.

As for the team, I'm more of a "jury is out" kind of person. On paper, we should have a playoff team, I firmly believe that, but the question really is if it can come together, and for that we have to rely on Hornacek. I really believe that Tyson Chandler will make a huge difference with this team. My biggest question mark is by far Brandon Knight and whether he will work, not only with Bledsoe, but with the team as a whole. He hasn't done much so far, but it's early and only preseason, where I don't think anything means anything. Basically a way to play players that won't play regularly and give fans a cheaper way to see the team play. That's pretty much it.

So if you happened to watch tonight's game, what are your thoughts going into the season?

skcs23 · Post #112 » by **skcs23** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:26 am

Not much of a lurker per-se but i float around a few of the forums on RealGM as a whole. I have a question regarding Mizra will he get much court time come reg season or will he just sit on the pine?

Post #113 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:30 am

skcs23 wrote:Not much of a lurker per-se but i float around a few of the forums on RealGM as a whole. I have a question regarding Mizra will he get much court time come reg season or will he just sit on the pine?

I think it mostly comes down to whether he can outplay Leuer, and so far he hasn't. That and whether or not we end up trading Kieff.

skcs23 · Post #114 » by **skcs23** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:35 am

I think it mostly comes down to whether he can outplay Leuer, and so far he hasn't. That and whether or not we end up trading Kieff.

So it will be Leur ahead of him? What is the depth chart looking like at the moment for the Suns Kieff and then the others behind him?

Post #115 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:41 am

skcs23 wrote:
I think it mostly comes down to whether he can outplay Leuer, and so far he hasn't. That and whether or not we end up trading Kieff.

So it will be Leur ahead of him? What is the depth chart looking like at the moment for the Suns Kieff and then the others behind him?

I think Telly was ahead on depth going into the season, but if you look at the numbers, Leuer has certainly outplayed him. I think they get equal minutes. Maybe Kieff getting 25 minutes at PF, and another 5 at C, maybe not all the time, but at times...our Centers are injury prone and both will be more effective with fewer minutes due to pace, and just keeping them fresh. That leaves 23 minutes for other PF's. I expect Tucker to get some minutes at 4, so I'd say Telly and Leuer will get roughly equal minutes, and it will depend on who gets hot for more minutes. I expect each gets 10-15 minutes a game on avg.

skcs23 · Post #116 » by **skcs23** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:00 am

Cheers for the summary, IF Kieff was to be dealt they would replace him with another PF i am guessing? So the minutes for both would not really change?

chaplin1 · Post #117 » by **chaplin1** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:58 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
So if you happened to watch tonight's game, what are your thoughts going into the season?

Didn't get to watch the game--I was in DC for my father's funeral, but I followed the box score, and as I said, the jury is still out with me. I am not a big fan of the preseason as a whole simply because you can't really determine anything. I liked how we came out on top and actually appeared to be dominating at times, especially at the ends of games.

But it's the same thing we've had issues with in the past. We wouldn't have to mount huge comebacks if we didn't get ourselves into a hole in the first place. I think Hornacek HAS to tinker with the lineup and not be sold on day 1's lineup being THE lineup. My main question mark, as it should be, is Brandon Knight. I didn't know much about him before he was traded, and with the injuries, I can't say I know much more now. So it will be interesting to see where he and Bledsoe go.

As for Bledsoe himself, I am pretty much sold on him. I like him a lot. He takes a lot of flack on message boards because of his shortcomings, but IMO his positives far outweigh his negatives. And most of his negatives are teachable solves. Some guys simply can't shoot and will never learn to shoot (Dwight Howard), but Bledsoe certainly can learn to distribute better and he can definitely learn to lower his turnovers.

Right now, I'm preferring TJ to start over PJ, even though PJ is the veteran. Not that TJ is better than PJ, but I would love PJ on that 2nd unit--right now all our self-proclaimed "leaders" are in the starting lineup. I don't necessarily mind that, but it would be nice to have one of them on the bench. It won't be Bledsoe or Chandler, so that leaves TJ. Plus, I don't think it's a bad idea to have a lockdown defender on the 2nd unit.

But all in all, I just want to wait for the season to start before making some solid opinions.

Post #118 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Feb 2, 2016 2:57 am

chaplin1 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
So if you happened to watch tonight's game, what are your thoughts going into the season?

Didn't get to watch the game--I was in DC for my father's funeral, but I followed the box score, and as I said, the jury is still out with me. I am not a big fan of the preseason as a whole simply because you can't really determine anything. I liked how we came out on top and actually appeared to be dominating at times, especially at the ends of games.

But it's the same thing we've had issues with in the past. We wouldn't have to mount huge comebacks if we didn't get ourselves into a hole in the first place. I think Hornacek HAS to tinker with the lineup and not be sold on day 1's lineup being THE lineup. My main question mark, as it should be, is Brandon Knight. I didn't know much about him before he was traded, and with the injuries, I can't say I know much more now. So it will be interesting to see where he and Bledsoe go.

As for Bledsoe himself, I am pretty much sold on him. I like him a lot. He takes a lot of flack on message boards because of his shortcomings, but IMO his positives far outweigh his negatives. And most of his negatives are teachable solves. Some guys simply can't shoot and will never learn to shoot (Dwight Howard), but Bledsoe certainly can learn to distribute better and he can definitely learn to lower his turnovers.

Right now, I'm preferring TJ to start over PJ, even though PJ is the veteran. Not that TJ is better than PJ, but I would love PJ on that 2nd unit--right now all our self-proclaimed "leaders" are in the starting lineup. I don't necessarily mind that, but it would be nice to have one of them on the bench. It won't be Bledsoe or Chandler, so that leaves TJ. Plus, I don't think it's a bad idea to have a lockdown defender on the 2nd unit.

But all in all, I just want to wait for the season to start before making some solid opinions.

So what are your solid opinions at this point?

WV-Sun · Post #119 » by **WV-Sun** » Tue Feb 2, 2016 4:03 am

Ok here I am. Been a longtime lurker and longtime Suns fan. Born and raised in West Virginia and currently living here but lived in Phoenix for 10 wonderful years and still miss it every day. Phoenix is my home away from home. My opinion is this: I think Bledsoe has tremendous upside but I'm worried about his durability. Knight seems to be a better fit playing off the ball but I'm not sure the coaching staff can convince him of that either way I think he is a good piece long-term. We have some great young talent in Booker, Warren and Len. Jury is still out on Goodwin but I think he has the potential. Kief is a cancer and needs to be traded and I'm highly ticked it still hasn't happened yet. I believe Phx has some valuable trade assets in Kief and Tucker although I would be fine keeping Tucker because he is that player who contributes in every way. Bottom line I think Phx has a good core of talent both experienced and young. I think the 3 headed PG experiment backfired and since that point the locker room has been divided. I was very high on Hornacek but unfortunately in my opinion he lost the team and it was time for a change. I'm not the biggest McD fan because of some very questionable decisions he has made but I do think Phx has drafted as well as anybody so its a catch 22. Sarver nope. But I'm more concerned about getting the right coach and I'm actually hoping for a defensive minded coach because of the players we currently have. I'm a big fan of D'Antoni but I'm concerned if that's the direction we go it will mean massive overhaul to the roster. The Suns need a defensive coach who can develop talent but who is a proven winner! I hope they don't go the cheap route and spend the money on a guy who can win immediately. Anyways that's my opinion on the situation and take it for what it's worth, my opinion. Glad to be a member! Let's Go Suns!

Post #120 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:45 pm

WV-Sun wrote:Ok here I am. Been a longtime lurker and longtime Suns fan. Born and raised in West Virginia and currently living here but lived in Phoenix for 10 wonderful years and still miss it every day. Phoenix is my home away from home. My opinion is this: I think Bledsoe has tremendous upside but I'm worried about his durability. Knight seems to be a better fit playing off the ball but I'm not sure the coaching staff can convince him of that either way I think he is a good piece long-term. We have some great young talent in Booker, Warren and Len. Jury is still out on Goodwin but I think he has the potential. Kief is a cancer and needs to be traded and I'm highly ticked it still hasn't happened yet.

I believe Phx has some valuable trade assets in Kief and Tucker although I would be fine keeping Tucker because he is that player who contributes in every way. Bottom line I think Phx has a good core of talent both experienced and young. I think the 3 headed PG experiment backfired and since that point the locker room has been divided. I was very high on Hornacek but unfortunately in my opinion he lost the team and it was time for a change. I'm not the biggest McD fan because of some very questionable decisions he has made but I do think Phx has drafted as well as anybody so its a catch 22.

Sarver nope. But I'm more concerned about getting the right coach and I'm actually hoping for a defensive minded coach because of the players we currently have. I'm a big fan of D'Antoni but I'm concerned if that's the direction we go it will mean massive overhaul to the roster. The Suns need a defensive coach who can develop talent but who is a proven winner! I hope they don't go the cheap route and spend the money on a guy who can win immediately. Anyways that's my opinion on the situation and take it for what it's worth, my opinion. Glad to be a member! Let's Go Suns!

So are you a WV basketball fan? They seem to be neck and neck in the rankings right now with AZ.