Game 22: Suns @ Bulls

Sunsss · Post #101 » by **Sunsss** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:01 am

I don't know what to say to this team. They could've easily quit after the 3rd, but here we are.

Cutter · Post #102 » by **Cutter** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:01 am

Like I said, Bledsoe for MVP. :lol:

Post #103 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:03 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Cutter wrote:I seriously have my doubts that Bledsoe is they type of PG who can lead the Suns to deep playoff runs. He's athletic and can score, but it questionable how much better he makes his teammates.

Yes, the roster has plenty of issues.

I'm going to disagree here. The roster has issues, but Bledsoe isn't one of them. He does need to stop with the turnovers, but outside of that he has definitely improved this year. I'm not sure you need a traditional, pure PG to go on a deep playoff run. The truth is there aren't many of those in the league, and the best one over the past decade is Chris Paul, who is notoriously lacking in playoff success.

For the most part I like Bledsoe, and even Knight, but I think more passing and less hero ball would help, but outside of them, we have very young guys who I think can be good pieces, like our last three draft picks, but as good as Leuer and Telly have been, I don't know that we realistically should expect the talent on this team to be a certain playoff caliber team RIGHT NOW. Especially with the decline of Tucker, the Kieff issue, and the Chandler injury. I think despite all that, we have played, for the most part, well, except for end of the game miscues.

kennydorglas · Post #104 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:05 am

I dont get the love for 'passers'... look around in this league... how much 'true PG' types are there?

Cutter · Post #105 » by **Cutter** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:05 am

That was a foul by Butler. A little home cooking by the refs I suppose.........

RaisingArizona · Post #106 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:06 am

So Butler gets star treatment now?

Cutter · Post #107 » by **Cutter** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:07 am

I love the fact that Hornacek has Len in at the end, and is not going small ball.

RaisingArizona · Post #108 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:09 am

Len just commits too many silly fouls.

OzzyAZ · Post #109 » by **OzzyAZ** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:10 am

I'm gonna go out on limb and predict a really close loss for the Suns

Grots · Post #110 » by **Grots** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:11 am

ginobiliflops wrote:So Butler gets star treatment now?

Been getting it since mid-last-season. He started flopping around like Harden.

I was watching one game last year. Had like 10 seconds left in a tied game. Butler just dribbles straight into the paint and flops around and wins the game on free throws. I've disliked him ever since.

Cutter · Post #111 » by **Cutter** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:12 am

Dagger by Butler.

Post #112 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:12 am

Booker leading the team in assists...nice to see. Future Steph Curry with his shooting and ability to pass.

kennydorglas · Post #113 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:12 am

No foul on Knight? really?

Sunsss · Post #114 » by **Sunsss** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:13 am

We should be going under screen on Rose.

GeraldsGreenery · Post #115 » by **GeraldsGreenery** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:13 am

Another loss....SMH :banghead:

RaisingArizona · Post #116 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:13 am

Knight gets tackled... Just played on. Fml

AtheJ415 · Post #117 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:14 am

bwgood77 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yes, the roster has plenty of issues.

I'm going to disagree here. The roster has issues, but Bledsoe isn't one of them. He does need to stop with the turnovers, but outside of that he has definitely improved this year. I'm not sure you need a traditional, pure PG to go on a deep playoff run. The truth is there aren't many of those in the league, and the best one over the past decade is Chris Paul, who is notoriously lacking in playoff success.

For the most part I like Bledsoe, and even Knight, but I think more passing and less hero ball would help, but outside of them, we have very young guys who I think can be good pieces, like our last three draft picks, but as good as Leuer and Telly have been, I don't know that we realistically should expect the talent on this team to be a certain playoff caliber team RIGHT NOW. Especially with the decline of Tucker, the Kieff issue, and the Chandler injury. I think despite all that, we have played, for the most part, well, except for end of the game miscues.

Yeah, and I agree with the hero ball tendency, but I also see it as them developing in all areas, including end of game scenarios. Knight is 23, and I don't think there's a better 2 guard in the league than him that age or younger (maybe Beal). I put everything with this team in the context of "for his age" since we are not contending. So, for instance, I don't particularly focus on the playoffs or a playoff caliber standard. I just look at it relative to how our guys are performing for their age. I think Knight and Bledsoe will get there, but with Booker playing so well Knight could be moved.

The problem is with no true superstar, our best players have to take these shots. It's not going to be pretty, and I'd rather they run more set plays, but that's a coaching issue as much as personnel. To me we should have more wins right now, but we have a crazy amount of unforced turnovers coming from this team, and it's not the guards entirely, it's the veterans many times (Tucker, Tele, etc.).

Grots · Post #118 » by **Grots** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:15 am

oh no, a close game

Sunsss · Post #119 » by **Sunsss** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:15 am

Please put Bledsoe on Rose and go under screen.

kennydorglas · Post #120 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Dec 8, 2015 3:15 am

Booker might never miss a 3 again