2018 Free Agency and Trade Discussion continued

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[NaturalBuns]

Suns have to be realistic yes love takes the suns out of majority the 2019 FA market. Almost the entire league is going to have money next year not to mention LA.

Not going to beat all them with the big players in FA

[MrMiyagi]

Suns have to be realistic yes love takes the suns out of majority the 2019 FA market. Almost the entire league is going to have money next year not to mention LA.

Not going to beat all them with the big players in FA

Sure, but that doesn't mean Kevin Love is the answer.

[NaturalBuns]

Suns have to be realistic yes love takes the suns out of majority the 2019 FA market. Almost the entire league is going to have money next year not to mention LA.

Not going to beat all them with the big players in FA

Sure, but that doesn't mean Kevin Love is the answer.

Not saying he was that was more directed towards the tweet. We have had cap space before no star will sign until we show the core is a playoff team. More than likely though suns will sign someone next year to a 3-4 year deal because the market is tough

[bigfoot]

Warren and Love on the same team... I can see it already ...

Spoiler:

[BobbieL]

Go get Bobby Portis for the MIL pick. He's going to be odd man out in CHI by the looks of it, shame cos he's a starter/good 4th-5th option I think.

Saw it on Twitter, Warren for Portis makes sense for both teams, he'd be a great fit there and Portis fits like a glove at PF with his range and rebounding.

that be a perfect trade. i'm down.

question is who would Bulls add to make salary match? TJ = 11m/4yrs vs Portis = 2m/1yr.

perhaps the return of Robin Lopez expiring?

Omer Asik /Portis for Warren / Troy Daniels makes sense from a salary perspective

Suns don't gain much space in cap next year but Portis fits as a long term PF so may not need as much cap space

[BobbieL]

prob getting tons of hate for this, but mentioned it over on page 2....

if we're all of sudden talking trading a SF for PF-Love -- why not look at Ibaka. I know - trust me - I know Ibaka is crap. And he can't play nearly as well compared to OKC days. But neither can Love.

at least he costs 3-million less, one year younger, and can actually defend + block shots. Way better complementary piece next to Ayton/Ariza than Love. Ibaka just has 2 years on his deal so it's not like he's gonna hog up your cap space for five years.

TOR:: Warren + Dudley + Bender
PHX:: Ibaka + Wright + 2nd?

knight/wright/okobo
booker/bridges/daniels
ariza/jackson/filler
chriss/ibaka/filler
ayton/chandler/filler

This is an interesting thought actually. The difference between Love and Ibaka from a contract perspective is that Love has a player option, Ibaka is just a contract. Second, this would take you out of the free agent market - but so would love.

We "think" Ibaka is younger than Love but he could be older. Though you are right, he would be better defensively than Love. I wonder how they feel about Jakob Poetl. Maybe a chance of Chriss or Bender for Poetl. Lastly, this would be cheaper next year for the Raptors as they are replacing a 23m Ibaka with an 11m Warren and maybe Bender

This might have a possibility of happening more than Love actuall. But again, you are taking yourself out of the free agent market

I actually Warren/Daniels for Portis/Asik deal best of all. For old times sakes - lets throw in Chandler for Ro-Lo to the mix

[Saberestar]

prob getting tons of hate for this, but mentioned it over on page 2....

if we're all of sudden talking trading a SF for PF-Love -- why not look at Ibaka. I know - trust me - I know Ibaka is crap. And he can't play nearly as well compared to OKC days. But neither can Love.

at least he costs 3-million less, one year younger, and can actually defend + block shots. Way better complementary piece next to Ayton/Ariza than Love. Ibaka just has 2 years on his deal so it's not like he's gonna hog up your cap space for five years.

TOR:: Warren + Dudley + Bender
PHX:: Ibaka + Wright + 2nd?

knight/wright/okobo
booker/bridges/daniels
ariza/jackson/filler
chriss/ibaka/filler
ayton/chandler/filler

This is an interesting thought actually. The difference between Love and Ibaka from a contract perspective is that Love has a player option, Ibaka is just a contract. Second, this would take you out of the free agent market - but so would love.

We "think" Ibaka is younger than Love but he could be older. Though you are right, he would be better defensively than Love. I wonder how they feel about Jakob Poetl. Maybe a chance of Chriss or Bender for Poetl. Lastly, this would be cheaper next year for the Raptors as they are replacing a 23m Ibaka with an 11m Warren and maybe Bender

This might have a possibility of happening more than Love actuall. But again, you are taking yourself out of the free agent market

I actually Warren/Daniels for Portis/Asik deal best of all. For old times sakes - lets throw in Chandler for Ro-Lo to the mix

Ibaka? NO, please no.

I do not get why people value that much all the backups from the Raptors.

Wright has no upside at all, he is 26 and he has not played never a big role. He is just a decent G who is OK playing 15-20 mpg as Norman Powell or VanVleet.

[m1chal]

prob getting tons of hate for this, but mentioned it over on page 2....

if we're all of sudden talking trading a SF for PF-Love -- why not look at Ibaka. I know - trust me - I know Ibaka is crap. And he can't play nearly as well compared to OKC days. But neither can Love.

at least he costs 3-million less, one year younger, and can actually defend + block shots. Way better complementary piece next to Ayton/Ariza than Love. Ibaka just has 2 years on his deal so it's not like he's gonna hog up your cap space for five years.

TOR:: Warren + Dudley + Bender
PHX:: Ibaka + Wright + 2nd?

knight/wright/okobo
booker/bridges/daniels
ariza/jackson/filler
chriss/ibaka/filler
ayton/chandler/filler

This is an interesting thought actually. The difference between Love and Ibaka from a contract perspective is that Love has a player option, Ibaka is just a contract. Second, this would take you out of the free agent market - but so would love.

We "think" Ibaka is younger than Love but he could be older. Though you are right, he would be better defensively than Love. I wonder how they feel about Jakob Poetl. Maybe a chance of Chriss or Bender for Poetl. Lastly, this would be cheaper next year for the Raptors as they are replacing a 23m Ibaka with an 11m Warren and maybe Bender

This might have a possibility of happening more than Love actuall. But again, you are taking yourself out of the free agent market

I actually Warren/Daniels for Portis/Asik deal best of all. For old times sakes - lets throw in Chandler for Ro-Lo to the mix

I guess you did not watch many Raptors games last season. Ibaka seemed to be a shell of his former self. A hard pass.

[BobbieL]

prob getting tons of hate for this, but mentioned it over on page 2....

if we're all of sudden talking trading a SF for PF-Love -- why not look at Ibaka. I know - trust me - I know Ibaka is crap. And he can't play nearly as well compared to OKC days. But neither can Love.

at least he costs 3-million less, one year younger, and can actually defend + block shots. Way better complementary piece next to Ayton/Ariza than Love. Ibaka just has 2 years on his deal so it's not like he's gonna hog up your cap space for five years.

TOR:: Warren + Dudley + Bender
PHX:: Ibaka + Wright + 2nd?

knight/wright/okobo
booker/bridges/daniels
ariza/jackson/filler
chriss/ibaka/filler
ayton/chandler/filler

This is an interesting thought actually. The difference between Love and Ibaka from a contract perspective is that Love has a player option, Ibaka is just a contract. Second, this would take you out of the free agent market - but so would love.

We "think" Ibaka is younger than Love but he could be older. Though you are right, he would be better defensively than Love. I wonder how they feel about Jakob Poetl. Maybe a chance of Chriss or Bender for Poetl. Lastly, this would be cheaper next year for the Raptors as they are replacing a 23m Ibaka with an 11m Warren and maybe Bender

This might have a possibility of happening more than Love actuall. But again, you are taking yourself out of the free agent market

I actually Warren/Daniels for Portis/Asik deal best of all. For old times sakes - lets throw in Chandler for Ro-Lo to the mix

I guess you did not watch many Raptors games last season. Ibaka seemed to be a shell of his former self. A hard pass.

I didn't - okay good to know he is not Serge I-Block-a anymore .

I do like the POrtis idea - probably wouldn't be too expensive next year either - maybe something like Warren had 4/50 range. One thing about the Warriors that was critical to managning the cap - they got Curry on a 4/44 deal that took them through three of the four finals. Warren is that contract for the Suns jut not sure h is the right fit.

[Barkley6]

Go get Bobby Portis for the MIL pick. He's going to be odd man out in CHI by the looks of it, shame cos he's a starter/good 4th-5th option I think.

Saw it on Twitter, Warren for Portis makes sense for both teams, he'd be a great fit there and Portis fits like a glove at PF with his range and rebounding.

that be a perfect trade. i'm down.

question is who would Bulls add to make salary match? TJ = 11m/4yrs vs Portis = 2m/1yr.

perhaps the return of Robin Lopez expiring?

Omer Asik /Portis for Warren / Troy Daniels makes sense from a salary perspective

Suns don't gain much space in cap next year but Portis fits as a long term PF so may not need as much cap space

I don't dislike the idea of adding Portis, but I think the issue here is that it doesn't actually clear the logjam at the F spot, which is the whole reason we are thinking of trading Warren in the first place.

Currently, the Forward rotation looks something like

SF: Jackson, Warren Bridges
PF: Ariza, Bender, Chriss

with Portis it would likely look like this:

SF: Jackson, Ariza, Bridges
PF: Portis, Bender, Chriss

Still 6 forwards, still a minutes crunch.

Kind of feel like this leaves us with the same problem, PLUS Portis looking for an extension next summer (when the cap will be higher, and teams with cap space will be driving up the market for good players) whereas Warren is already locked up on a reasonable contract.

[BobbieL]

that be a perfect trade. i'm down.

question is who would Bulls add to make salary match? TJ = 11m/4yrs vs Portis = 2m/1yr.

perhaps the return of Robin Lopez expiring?

Omer Asik /Portis for Warren / Troy Daniels makes sense from a salary perspective

Suns don't gain much space in cap next year but Portis fits as a long term PF so may not need as much cap space

I don't dislike the idea of adding Portis, but I think the issue here is that it doesn't actually clear the logjam at the F spot, which is the whole reason we are thinking of trading Warren in the first place.

Currently, the Forward rotation looks something like

SF: Jackson, Warren Bridges
PF: Ariza, Bender, Chriss

with Portis it would likely look like this:

SF: Jackson, Ariza, Bridges
PF: Portis, Bender, Chriss

Still 6 forwards, still a minutes crunch.

Kind of feel like this leaves us with the same problem, PLUS Portis looking for an extension next summer (when the cap will be higher, and teams with cap space will be driving up the market for good players) whereas Warren is already locked up on a reasonable contract.

The optimum solution would be to move TJ Warren for a PG. But I don't think the Jazz are moving Rubio yet. Possibly to the Nets for Dinwiddie and Lin (just to make the salaries match). The Nets will have a ton of cap space next year - I could see them possibly wanting Warren because it might be hard for them to build the roster through free agency. So they need to make trades.

Warren/Daniels for Dinwiddie/Lin to make the numbers work. Or substitute Carrol for Li

[Barkley6]

Omer Asik /Portis for Warren / Troy Daniels makes sense from a salary perspective

Suns don't gain much space in cap next year but Portis fits as a long term PF so may not need as much cap space

I don't dislike the idea of adding Portis, but I think the issue here is that it doesn't actually clear the logjam at the F spot, which is the whole reason we are thinking of trading Warren in the first place.

Currently, the Forward rotation looks something like

SF: Jackson, Warren Bridges
PF: Ariza, Bender, Chriss

with Portis it would likely look like this:

SF: Jackson, Ariza, Bridges
PF: Portis, Bender, Chriss

Still 6 forwards, still a minutes crunch.

Kind of feel like this leaves us with the same problem, PLUS Portis looking for an extension next summer (when the cap will be higher, and teams with cap space will be driving up the market for good players) whereas Warren is already locked up on a reasonable contract.

The optimum solution would be to move TJ Warren for a PG. But I don't think the Jazz are moving Rubio yet. Possibly to the Nets for Dinwiddie and Lin (just to make the salaries match). The Nets will have a ton of cap space next year - I could see them possibly wanting Warren because it might be hard for them to build the roster through free agency. So they need to make trades.

Warren/Daniels for Dinwiddie/Lin to make the numbers work. Or substitute Carrol for Li

Yeah, not trading Warren for Dinwiddie. That's terrible value for him. Warren is a 20 and 5 guy. Dinwiddie is serviceable, but TJ has more value than that. TJ is also younger.

I think people forget that TJ is only 24. He's improved every year he's been in the league (upped his scoring by an average of 4.5ppg each season). If he could add a semi-reliable 3pt shot, he could easily score 24ppg, especially with defenses focusing on Booker and Ayton.

Unless it's part of a package for a star player or a significant upgrade at the PG spot, I think TJ gets another season in Phoenix.

For reference, at the same age:

Joe Johnson - 17/5/3 on 46/48/75 shooting splits.
TJ Warren - 19/5/1 on 50/22/76 shooting splits.

Not DRAMATICALLY different. Obviously the 3pt percentage stands out, but TJ has never had a Nash like PG to set him up (The season previous, without Nash, JJ shot 30% from 3 EDIT: The following season, without Nash, JJ's 3pt% went back down to 36%).

I just don't think you give up on TJ yet.

[BobbieL]

I don't dislike the idea of adding Portis, but I think the issue here is that it doesn't actually clear the logjam at the F spot, which is the whole reason we are thinking of trading Warren in the first place.

Currently, the Forward rotation looks something like

SF: Jackson, Warren Bridges
PF: Ariza, Bender, Chriss

with Portis it would likely look like this:

SF: Jackson, Ariza, Bridges
PF: Portis, Bender, Chriss

Still 6 forwards, still a minutes crunch.

Kind of feel like this leaves us with the same problem, PLUS Portis looking for an extension next summer (when the cap will be higher, and teams with cap space will be driving up the market for good players) whereas Warren is already locked up on a reasonable contract.

The optimum solution would be to move TJ Warren for a PG. But I don't think the Jazz are moving Rubio yet. Possibly to the Nets for Dinwiddie and Lin (just to make the salaries match). The Nets will have a ton of cap space next year - I could see them possibly wanting Warren because it might be hard for them to build the roster through free agency. So they need to make trades.

Warren/Daniels for Dinwiddie/Lin to make the numbers work. Or substitute Carrol for Li

Yeah, not trading Warren for Dinwiddie. That's terrible value for him. Warren is a 20 and 5 guy. Dinwiddie is serviceable, but TJ has more value than that. TJ is also younger.

I think people forget that TJ is only 24. He's improved every year he's been in the league (upped his scoring by an average of 4.5ppg each season). If he could add a semi-reliable 3pt shot, he could easily score 24ppg, especially with defenses focusing on Booker and Ayton.

Unless it's part of a package for a star player or a significant upgrade at the PG spot, I think TJ gets another season in Phoenix.

For reference, at the same age:

Joe Johnson - 17/5/3 on 46/48/75 shooting splits.
TJ Warren - 19/5/1 on 50/22/76 shooting splits.

Not DRAMATICALLY different. Obviously the 3pt percentage stands out, but TJ has never had a Nash like PG to set him up (The season previous, without Nash, JJ shot 30% from 3 EDIT: The following season, without Nash, JJ's 3pt% went back down to 36%).

I just don't think you give up on TJ yet.

Well, I am not sure how many minutes Warren will get as there is a glut of forwards so trying to create an opportunity to improve the guard rotation. Also, would open 10m of cap space next summer. If that is a goal for McD.

I see the skill set TJ has on the offensive end. Good mid-range game. Three point shooting still needs to get better as does defense. He might be best used as a super sixth man to get points. If his three ball percentage improved - even the corner, would help his game.

[bigfoot]

The optimum solution would be to move TJ Warren for a PG. But I don't think the Jazz are moving Rubio yet. Possibly to the Nets for Dinwiddie and Lin (just to make the salaries match). The Nets will have a ton of cap space next year - I could see them possibly wanting Warren because it might be hard for them to build the roster through free agency. So they need to make trades.

Warren/Daniels for Dinwiddie/Lin to make the numbers work. Or substitute Carrol for Li

Yeah, not trading Warren for Dinwiddie. That's terrible value for him. Warren is a 20 and 5 guy. Dinwiddie is serviceable, but TJ has more value than that. TJ is also younger.

I think people forget that TJ is only 24. He's improved every year he's been in the league (upped his scoring by an average of 4.5ppg each season). If he could add a semi-reliable 3pt shot, he could easily score 24ppg, especially with defenses focusing on Booker and Ayton.

Unless it's part of a package for a star player or a significant upgrade at the PG spot, I think TJ gets another season in Phoenix.

For reference, at the same age:

Joe Johnson - 17/5/3 on 46/48/75 shooting splits.
TJ Warren - 19/5/1 on 50/22/76 shooting splits.

Not DRAMATICALLY different. Obviously the 3pt percentage stands out, but TJ has never had a Nash like PG to set him up (The season previous, without Nash, JJ shot 30% from 3 EDIT: The following season, without Nash, JJ's 3pt% went back down to 36%).

I just don't think you give up on TJ yet.

Well, I am not sure how many minutes Warren will get as there is a glut of forwards so trying to create an opportunity to improve the guard rotation. Also, would open 10m of cap space next summer. If that is a goal for McD.

I see the skill set TJ has on the offensive end. Good mid-range game. Three point shooting still needs to get better as does defense. He might be best used as a super sixth man to get points. If his three ball percentage improved - even the corner, would help his game.

Trading away Warren, a proven player who is an efficient scorer, and then assuming a non-shooting Jackson is going to fill his role is asinine. These Jackson bandwagon fans are crazy to even think he will be a starter. People love his highlight blocks but somebody out to create a follies tape of Jackson with all his bricks and defensive lapses. Right now Bender and Jackson look like third string players.

[bigfoot]

TJ Warren will have a three point shot before Josh Jackson ever manages to hit .750 from the free throw line.

[oddity]

Yeah, not trading Warren for Dinwiddie. That's terrible value for him. Warren is a 20 and 5 guy. Dinwiddie is serviceable, but TJ has more value than that. TJ is also younger.

I think people forget that TJ is only 24. He's improved every year he's been in the league (upped his scoring by an average of 4.5ppg each season). If he could add a semi-reliable 3pt shot, he could easily score 24ppg, especially with defenses focusing on Booker and Ayton.

Unless it's part of a package for a star player or a significant upgrade at the PG spot, I think TJ gets another season in Phoenix.

For reference, at the same age:

Joe Johnson - 17/5/3 on 46/48/75 shooting splits.
TJ Warren - 19/5/1 on 50/22/76 shooting splits.

Not DRAMATICALLY different. Obviously the 3pt percentage stands out, but TJ has never had a Nash like PG to set him up (The season previous, without Nash, JJ shot 30% from 3 EDIT: The following season, without Nash, JJ's 3pt% went back down to 36%).

I just don't think you give up on TJ yet.

Well, I am not sure how many minutes Warren will get as there is a glut of forwards so trying to create an opportunity to improve the guard rotation. Also, would open 10m of cap space next summer. If that is a goal for McD.

I see the skill set TJ has on the offensive end. Good mid-range game. Three point shooting still needs to get better as does defense. He might be best used as a super sixth man to get points. If his three ball percentage improved - even the corner, would help his game.

Trading away Warren, a proven player who is an efficient scorer, and then assuming a non-shooting Jackson is going to fill his role is asinine. These Jackson bandwagon fans are crazy to even think he will be a starter. People love his highlight blocks but somebody out to create a follies tape of Jackson with all his bricks and defensive lapses. Right now Bender and Jackson look like third string players.

What exactly does Warren do that Jackson doesn't? Jackson is a better athlete, a better ball handler, a better defender, better passer, better BBIQ, more vocal leader, younger, and the list goes on. They both struggle shooting its not like TJ has an advantage over JJ here. JJ clearly has the potential to everything TJ does and more. And if you wanna talk about fans watching JJ's blocks and not his defensive follies; unlike TJ, at least JJ HAS BLOCKS TO WATCH!!!

[SkinnyOMiller]

Well, I am not sure how many minutes Warren will get as there is a glut of forwards so trying to create an opportunity to improve the guard rotation. Also, would open 10m of cap space next summer. If that is a goal for McD.

I see the skill set TJ has on the offensive end. Good mid-range game. Three point shooting still needs to get better as does defense. He might be best used as a super sixth man to get points. If his three ball percentage improved - even the corner, would help his game.

Trading away Warren, a proven player who is an efficient scorer, and then assuming a non-shooting Jackson is going to fill his role is asinine. These Jackson bandwagon fans are crazy to even think he will be a starter. People love his highlight blocks but somebody out to create a follies tape of Jackson with all his bricks and defensive lapses. Right now Bender and Jackson look like third string players.

What exactly does Warren do that Jackson doesn't? Jackson is a better athlete, a better ball handler, a better defender, better passer, better BBIQ, more vocal leader, younger, and the list goes on. They both struggle shooting its not like TJ has an advantage over JJ here. JJ clearly has the potential to everything TJ does and more. And if you wanna talk about fans watching JJ's blocks and not his defensive follies; unlike TJ, at least JJ HAS BLOCKS TO WATCH!!!

Is this a serious question? TJ is a far better scorer. Yeah he doesn't have the desired 3 point range but he is a midrange monster. If Houston had a guy like him, maybe they don't end up losing to Golden State. Warren is the perfect 6th man off the bench, he can come in and rack up some buckets, keep the scoring going while guys like Booker are on the bench.


Josh Jackson is 7 of 28 from the field so far in the SL. Limited sample but his perimeter scoring ability is still highly questionable, pretty much anywhere from outside the paint. In time he will hopefully improve but right now if I need a guy to take a jumper to win a game, I'm going with Warren 10 out of 10 times.

[oddity]

Trading away Warren, a proven player who is an efficient scorer, and then assuming a non-shooting Jackson is going to fill his role is asinine. These Jackson bandwagon fans are crazy to even think he will be a starter. People love his highlight blocks but somebody out to create a follies tape of Jackson with all his bricks and defensive lapses. Right now Bender and Jackson look like third string players.

What exactly does Warren do that Jackson doesn't? Jackson is a better athlete, a better ball handler, a better defender, better passer, better BBIQ, more vocal leader, younger, and the list goes on. They both struggle shooting its not like TJ has an advantage over JJ here. JJ clearly has the potential to everything TJ does and more. And if you wanna talk about fans watching JJ's blocks and not his defensive follies; unlike TJ, at least JJ HAS BLOCKS TO WATCH!!!

Is this a serious question? TJ is a far better scorer. Yeah he doesn't have the desired 3 point range but he is a midrange monster. If Houston had a guy like him, maybe they don't end up losing to Golden State. Warren is the perfect 6th man off the bench, he can come in and rack up some buckets, keep the scoring going while guys like Booker are on the bench.


Josh Jackson is 7 of 28 from the field so far in the SL. Limited sample but his perimeter scoring ability is still highly questionable, pretty much anywhere from outside the paint. In time he will hopefully improve but right now if I need a guy to take a jumper to win a game, I'm going with Warren 10 out of 10 times.

Far better scorer? Yeah he's a better mid range jumpshooter but dude that's it. TJ's pick and roll play is extremely spotty bc his jumper is still inconsistent and he's not fast/skilled enough to consistently get by his man w/ the ball in his hands. He's a great weak side scorer. A great third banana maybe. But when the team relies on TJ to score he just disappears, bc he is much better off ball than on ball. JJ doesn't have that problem. Like TJ, JJ is a slasher, but he can beat his man with the ball much MUCH more than TJ.
And look, if a mid range J is the biggest advantage you can fish out for TJ, when JJ is still young enough to develop that, proves just how little ground you have to stand on.

[bwgood77]

Trading away Warren, a proven player who is an efficient scorer, and then assuming a non-shooting Jackson is going to fill his role is asinine. These Jackson bandwagon fans are crazy to even think he will be a starter. People love his highlight blocks but somebody out to create a follies tape of Jackson with all his bricks and defensive lapses. Right now Bender and Jackson look like third string players.

What exactly does Warren do that Jackson doesn't? Jackson is a better athlete, a better ball handler, a better defender, better passer, better BBIQ, more vocal leader, younger, and the list goes on. They both struggle shooting its not like TJ has an advantage over JJ here. JJ clearly has the potential to everything TJ does and more. And if you wanna talk about fans watching JJ's blocks and not his defensive follies; unlike TJ, at least JJ HAS BLOCKS TO WATCH!!!

Is this a serious question? TJ is a far better scorer. Yeah he doesn't have the desired 3 point range but he is a midrange monster. If Houston had a guy like him, maybe they don't end up losing to Golden State. Warren is the perfect 6th man off the bench, he can come in and rack up some buckets, keep the scoring going while guys like Booker are on the bench.


Josh Jackson is 7 of 28 from the field so far in the SL. Limited sample but his perimeter scoring ability is still highly questionable, pretty much anywhere from outside the paint. In time he will hopefully improve but right now if I need a guy to take a jumper to win a game, I'm going with Warren 10 out of 10 times.

Yeah, Warren is far more efficient at over 54% TS% as opposed to 48% for JJ. Obviously JJ is younger and a rookie so I won't make premature judgements. But if we want to win sooner, you want the more efficient scorers in there more. JJ is a little better in some other areas but not much yet. If he lives up to his hype, sure, but I think we want to make sure we don't just cast away proven scorers when we don't really have many. It's nice we added a nice inside scoring big and two great 3D guys, so that helps, but none of the other forwards are quite the pure scorers overall that TJ is. If he does improve his 3 after 4 years like Ariza did he could be extremely efficient.