Igor fired - New Coaching Search Discussion

[Damkac]

He will be fired in the first week or two of the next season. Sarver Style!

[Fo-Real]

He will be fired 8 days before the season starts just like Mc D this year!

[caltab]

The team has more talent than last year and has regressed badly throughout the course of the season. He seems like a nice guy, but I don’t see how he doesn’t share a large part of the blame. I wasn’t expecting s playoff run, but I think this team is badly under achieving. The dream would be to bring in Griffin and let him decide who is best to coach the team, including considering keeping Koko on for another year.

[Puff]

They will not fire Igor before the start of next season, but if the results stay the same he is gone by mid-season most likely, deservedly so.

So you are Ok with another setback at mid season for something that can be handled this summer.

Remember these players along with Koko were chosen by McDonough. We he is gone and most of his bad decisions on players are gone. I expect he also was in on the hiring of James Jones. Why is he still here?

The owner is not going anywhere. However we have to clean house to include James Jones and Koko.

You are just dreaming if you cannot see that. Continuity for what good reason. Koko and Jones Suck at what they do.

These two are at the top of the list as most boring and inept people in the league.

[oligo]

The real question is: Will Suns get a legit GM until next season?
About Kokoskov, I think if the team collects 20 wins this season ... they will not fire him.

[Puff]

Did anyone notice the koko's deer in the headlights moment in the 4th quarter. I don't know the exact moment but the Cav's went on a run just after we appeared to be making a game of it and he appeared to have no clue as to what to do. He wasn't even mad or disgusted. He didn't trash the refs of the players. He seemed frozen in time. That is what he appears to be on most nights.

Sorry - I am not a fan.

[RaisingArizona]

The guy is emotionless! How is that possible leading a historically bad team?

[bigfoot]

The guy is emotionless! How is that possible leading a historically bad team?

I'm sure he has yelled at them but being a bunch of 18, 19, and 20 year olds the tears start falling. Boys playing against men.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The guy is emotionless! How is that possible leading a historically bad team?

I'm sure he has yelled at them but being a bunch of 18, 19, and 20 year olds the tears start falling. Boys playing against men.

It would be weird if he's yelling at 18 and 19 year olds since they would have to be fans since no player on the suns is under 20

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[Ghost of Kleine]

I don't advocate to fire him just yet, But should they fire him, what would be your thoughts on Larry Brown???

It's been rumored that he's still wanting to coach again. Also Ettore Messina??? H's a very accomplished coaching prospect.

A list of great up and coming coaching prospects to consider IF they do move on from Kokoskov:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18986226/five-nba-coaching-prospects-watch .

[Ghost of Kleine]

Here's a list of the top coaches and their biggest strengths and weaknesses towards player and team development:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2010/10/12/1746757/nba-coach-power-rankings-phil-jackson-gregg-popovich .

Of the many coaches on the list, here are 3 that could be a fit for player development and defense in any capacity as a head coach or assistant, consultant, etc.

1- . Scott Brooks, Oklahoma City ThunderCoaching History: Oklahoma City Thunder (2008-present)Record with current team: 72-79Overall record: 72-79Best season: 2009-10 Thunder (50-32, playoff team)Worst season: Only full seasonPlayoff record: 2-4Biggest strength: Ability to relate to young players and get them to defendBiggest weakness: Jury still out on tactical skills.

2- . Larry Brown, Charlotte BobcatsCoaching History: Denver Nuggets(1976-79), New Jersey Nets (1981-83), San Antonio Spurs (1988-92), Los Angeles Clippers (1992-93), Indiana Pacers (1993-97), Philadelphia 76ers (1997-2003), Detroit Pistons (2003-2005), New York Knicks (2005-2006), Charlotte Bobcats (2008-present)Record with current team: 79-85Overall record: 1089-885Best season: 2000-01 76ers (56-26, Eastern Conference Champions)Worst season: Technically, the 1988-89 Spurs, but in reality, the 2005-06 New York Knicks (23-59)Playoff record: 100-93Biggest strength: Commitment to defense and fundamentals, leading to quick improvementBiggest weakness: Poor offensive coach, flakiness.

3- Stan Van Gundy, Orlando MagicCoaching History: Miami Heat (2003-2005), Orlando Magic (2007-present)Record with current team: 170-76Overall record: 282-149Best season: 2008-09 Magic (59-23, Eastern Conference champions)Worst season: 2003-04 Heat (42-40, second-round playoff team)Playoff record: 45-31Biggest strength: Ability to motivate players on both endsBiggest weakness: Hard-nosed style could wear on players, though it hasn't happened yet.

All have particular strengths and weaknesses, but they mostly are known for their abilities to motivate players and encourage defensive fundamentals.

Overall, Aside from Koko, I like Larry Brown and Stan Van Gundy. With Scott Brooks being a third option to bring in.

[bwgood77]

Here's a list of the top coaches and their biggest strengths and weaknesses towards player and team development:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2010/10/12/1746757/nba-coach-power-rankings-phil-jackson-gregg-popovich .

Of the many coaches on the list, here are 3 that could be a fit for player development and defense in any capacity as a head coach or assistant, consultant, etc.

1- . Scott Brooks, Oklahoma City ThunderCoaching History: Oklahoma City Thunder (2008-present)Record with current team: 72-79Overall record: 72-79Best season: 2009-10 Thunder (50-32, playoff team)Worst season: Only full seasonPlayoff record: 2-4Biggest strength: Ability to relate to young players and get them to defendBiggest weakness: Jury still out on tactical skills.

2- . Larry Brown, Charlotte BobcatsCoaching History: Denver Nuggets(1976-79), New Jersey Nets (1981-83), San Antonio Spurs (1988-92), Los Angeles Clippers (1992-93), Indiana Pacers (1993-97), Philadelphia 76ers (1997-2003), Detroit Pistons (2003-2005), New York Knicks (2005-2006), Charlotte Bobcats (2008-present)Record with current team: 79-85Overall record: 1089-885Best season: 2000-01 76ers (56-26, Eastern Conference Champions)Worst season: Technically, the 1988-89 Spurs, but in reality, the 2005-06 New York Knicks (23-59)Playoff record: 100-93Biggest strength: Commitment to defense and fundamentals, leading to quick improvementBiggest weakness: Poor offensive coach, flakiness.

3- Stan Van Gundy, Orlando MagicCoaching History: Miami Heat (2003-2005), Orlando Magic (2007-present)Record with current team: 170-76Overall record: 282-149Best season: 2008-09 Magic (59-23, Eastern Conference champions)Worst season: 2003-04 Heat (42-40, second-round playoff team)Playoff record: 45-31Biggest strength: Ability to motivate players on both endsBiggest weakness: Hard-nosed style could wear on players, though it hasn't happened yet.

All have particular strengths and weaknesses, but they mostly are known for their abilities to motivate players and encourage defensive fundamentals.

Overall, Aside from Koko, I like Larry Brown and Stan Van Gundy. With Scott Brooks being a third option to bring in.

Well, Brooks could get fired soon...we'll see...

Read on Twitter

Larry Brown...good luck with that..the Knicks hired him over 10 years ago with a 5 year/$50 million contract and he went 23-59 and clashed with the front office and ownership but wouldn't quit...he was still owed $41 million when he finally got bought out...same thing happened with his previous job at Detroit.

This is the second straight job that Brown has left under adverse circumstances. In July 2005, he agreed to a $7 million buyout with the Detroit Pistons. He had three years and $21 million left on that contract when the relationship soured. Over his last two seasons of coaching, Brown has earned a staggering $42.5 million in salary and contract buyouts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/sports/basketball/09brown.html

Then he still got hired at Charlotte after that but got fired a little ways into his 3rd season after a bad start...his first two seasons he went about 500 overall.

I seriously doubt he would be an option.

SVG wanted front office control and coaching control in Detroit...he had it but finally lost his job after having an overall losing record over 4 seasons with them.

I imagine he would want a lot of money, but he probably wants a job. He seems to has declined quite a bit as a coach over the years.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Here's a list of the top coaches and their biggest strengths and weaknesses towards player and team development:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2010/10/12/1746757/nba-coach-power-rankings-phil-jackson-gregg-popovich .

Of the many coaches on the list, here are 3 that could be a fit for player development and defense in any capacity as a head coach or assistant, consultant, etc.

1- . Scott Brooks, Oklahoma City ThunderCoaching History: Oklahoma City Thunder (2008-present)Record with current team: 72-79Overall record: 72-79Best season: 2009-10 Thunder (50-32, playoff team)Worst season: Only full seasonPlayoff record: 2-4Biggest strength: Ability to relate to young players and get them to defendBiggest weakness: Jury still out on tactical skills.

2- . Larry Brown, Charlotte BobcatsCoaching History: Denver Nuggets(1976-79), New Jersey Nets (1981-83), San Antonio Spurs (1988-92), Los Angeles Clippers (1992-93), Indiana Pacers (1993-97), Philadelphia 76ers (1997-2003), Detroit Pistons (2003-2005), New York Knicks (2005-2006), Charlotte Bobcats (2008-present)Record with current team: 79-85Overall record: 1089-885Best season: 2000-01 76ers (56-26, Eastern Conference Champions)Worst season: Technically, the 1988-89 Spurs, but in reality, the 2005-06 New York Knicks (23-59)Playoff record: 100-93Biggest strength: Commitment to defense and fundamentals, leading to quick improvementBiggest weakness: Poor offensive coach, flakiness.

3- Stan Van Gundy, Orlando MagicCoaching History: Miami Heat (2003-2005), Orlando Magic (2007-present)Record with current team: 170-76Overall record: 282-149Best season: 2008-09 Magic (59-23, Eastern Conference champions)Worst season: 2003-04 Heat (42-40, second-round playoff team)Playoff record: 45-31Biggest strength: Ability to motivate players on both endsBiggest weakness: Hard-nosed style could wear on players, though it hasn't happened yet.

All have particular strengths and weaknesses, but they mostly are known for their abilities to motivate players and encourage defensive fundamentals.

Overall, Aside from Koko, I like Larry Brown and Stan Van Gundy. With Scott Brooks being a third option to bring in.

Well, Brooks could get fired soon...we'll see...

Read on Twitter

Larry Brown...good luck with that..the Knicks hired him over 10 years ago with a 5 year/$50 million contract and he went 23-59 and clashed with the front office and ownership but wouldn't quit...he was still owed $41 million when he finally got bought out...same thing happened with his previous job at Detroit.

This is the second straight job that Brown has left under adverse circumstances. In July 2005, he agreed to a $7 million buyout with the Detroit Pistons. He had three years and $21 million left on that contract when the relationship soured. Over his last two seasons of coaching, Brown has earned a staggering $42.5 million in salary and contract buyouts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/sports/basketball/09brown.html

Then he still got hired at Charlotte after that but got fired a little ways into his 3rd season after a bad start...his first two seasons he went about 500 overall.

I seriously doubt he would be an option.

SVG wanted front office control and coaching control in Detroit...he had it but finally lost his job after having an overall losing record over 4 seasons with them.

I imagine he would want a lot of money, but he probably wants a job. He seems to has declined quite a bit as a coach over the years.

That's ok, because I do still like Koko somewhat, And would like to see what he could do with another year and hopefully improved roster too.

Are there any targets out there who you'd keep an eye on for our player development needs, If they were to let Kokoskov go?

Any thoughts on Ettore Messina?.....Or Jim Borrego???

[bwgood77]

Here's a list of the top coaches and their biggest strengths and weaknesses towards player and team development:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2010/10/12/1746757/nba-coach-power-rankings-phil-jackson-gregg-popovich .

Of the many coaches on the list, here are 3 that could be a fit for player development and defense in any capacity as a head coach or assistant, consultant, etc.

1- . Scott Brooks, Oklahoma City ThunderCoaching History: Oklahoma City Thunder (2008-present)Record with current team: 72-79Overall record: 72-79Best season: 2009-10 Thunder (50-32, playoff team)Worst season: Only full seasonPlayoff record: 2-4Biggest strength: Ability to relate to young players and get them to defendBiggest weakness: Jury still out on tactical skills.

2- . Larry Brown, Charlotte BobcatsCoaching History: Denver Nuggets(1976-79), New Jersey Nets (1981-83), San Antonio Spurs (1988-92), Los Angeles Clippers (1992-93), Indiana Pacers (1993-97), Philadelphia 76ers (1997-2003), Detroit Pistons (2003-2005), New York Knicks (2005-2006), Charlotte Bobcats (2008-present)Record with current team: 79-85Overall record: 1089-885Best season: 2000-01 76ers (56-26, Eastern Conference Champions)Worst season: Technically, the 1988-89 Spurs, but in reality, the 2005-06 New York Knicks (23-59)Playoff record: 100-93Biggest strength: Commitment to defense and fundamentals, leading to quick improvementBiggest weakness: Poor offensive coach, flakiness.

3- Stan Van Gundy, Orlando MagicCoaching History: Miami Heat (2003-2005), Orlando Magic (2007-present)Record with current team: 170-76Overall record: 282-149Best season: 2008-09 Magic (59-23, Eastern Conference champions)Worst season: 2003-04 Heat (42-40, second-round playoff team)Playoff record: 45-31Biggest strength: Ability to motivate players on both endsBiggest weakness: Hard-nosed style could wear on players, though it hasn't happened yet.

All have particular strengths and weaknesses, but they mostly are known for their abilities to motivate players and encourage defensive fundamentals.

Overall, Aside from Koko, I like Larry Brown and Stan Van Gundy. With Scott Brooks being a third option to bring in.

Well, Brooks could get fired soon...we'll see...

Read on Twitter

Larry Brown...good luck with that..the Knicks hired him over 10 years ago with a 5 year/$50 million contract and he went 23-59 and clashed with the front office and ownership but wouldn't quit...he was still owed $41 million when he finally got bought out...same thing happened with his previous job at Detroit.

This is the second straight job that Brown has left under adverse circumstances. In July 2005, he agreed to a $7 million buyout with the Detroit Pistons. He had three years and $21 million left on that contract when the relationship soured. Over his last two seasons of coaching, Brown has earned a staggering $42.5 million in salary and contract buyouts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/sports/basketball/09brown.html

Then he still got hired at Charlotte after that but got fired a little ways into his 3rd season after a bad start...his first two seasons he went about 500 overall.

I seriously doubt he would be an option.

SVG wanted front office control and coaching control in Detroit...he had it but finally lost his job after having an overall losing record over 4 seasons with them.

I imagine he would want a lot of money, but he probably wants a job. He seems to has declined quite a bit as a coach over the years.

That's ok, because I do still like Koko somewhat, And would like to see what he could do with another year and hopefully improved roster too.

Are there any targets out there who you'd keep an eye on for our player development needs, If they were to let Kokoskov go?

Any thoughts on Ettore Messina?.....Or Jim Borrego???

Yeah, I like Ettore Messina, but this stuff takes time. Coaches are not going to develop a bunch of rookies during their rookie year to win a lot of games, particularly when their two best players are missing a bunch of games and they don't have a PG.

Borrego is coaching the Hornets.

Igor needs time to develop these guys. I think he's done a pretty good job with the rookies in the short time based on where Ayton was at AZ. Bridges is one of the better perimeter defender in league and plays the right way. The PGs have come along a bit, though they've struggled.

A lot of people think Kenny Atkinson is one of the great young upcoming coaches and player development guys, but his rookie year he was 20-62....of course they didn't fire him. Then he went 28-54..not a big improvement but they stuck with him.

Now he is 30-30.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Well, Brooks could get fired soon...we'll see...

Read on Twitter

Larry Brown...good luck with that..the Knicks hired him over 10 years ago with a 5 year/$50 million contract and he went 23-59 and clashed with the front office and ownership but wouldn't quit...he was still owed $41 million when he finally got bought out...same thing happened with his previous job at Detroit.



https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/sports/basketball/09brown.html

Then he still got hired at Charlotte after that but got fired a little ways into his 3rd season after a bad start...his first two seasons he went about 500 overall.

I seriously doubt he would be an option.

SVG wanted front office control and coaching control in Detroit...he had it but finally lost his job after having an overall losing record over 4 seasons with them.

I imagine he would want a lot of money, but he probably wants a job. He seems to has declined quite a bit as a coach over the years.

That's ok, because I do still like Koko somewhat, And would like to see what he could do with another year and hopefully improved roster too.

Are there any targets out there who you'd keep an eye on for our player development needs, If they were to let Kokoskov go?

Any thoughts on Ettore Messina?.....Or Jim Borrego???

Yeah, I like Ettore Messina, but this stuff takes time. Coaches are not going to develop a bunch of rookies during their rookie year to win a lot of games, particularly when their two best players are missing a bunch of games and they don't have a PG.

Borrego is coaching the Hornets.

Igor needs time to develop these guys. I think he's done a pretty good job with the rookies in the short time based on where Ayton was at AZ. Bridges is one of the better perimeter defender in league and plays the right way. The PGs have come along a bit, though they've struggled.

A lot of people think Kenny Atkinson is one of the great young upcoming coaches and player development guys, but his rookie year he was 20-62....of course they didn't fire him. Then he went 28-54..not a big improvement but they stuck with him.

Now he is 30-30.

I agree, and actually like him as a coach for us going forward, having said that, My only gripe would be his lack of a commanding presence. But he does have his own style.

He kind of reminds me of Westphal a bit in his calm demeanor. Overall, I think the majority of our problems lie with our front offices' ineptitude and unwillingness to higher premiere, or even experience, and knowledgable front office personnel.

It just seems to me that Sarver employs bargain basement options in order to save money, and it has reflected badly on our franchise as a result.

[sunsbg]

Let's compare Suns vs Spurs

Aldridge vs Ayton (comparing DA to LA looks spot on to me at this point)
Gay vs Warren
Derozan vs Booker
Forbes vs Bridges
White vs Melton

Mills vs Okobo
Belinelli vs JJ
Gasol vs Oubre
Bertans vs Bender (always wondered will Bender(15 3PFG% this season) become as good as someone like Bonner/Bertans, what a waste of a #4 pick)
Poeltl vs Holmes

Talent-wise I don't see a big difference.

Spurs (experience, good coaching, good outside shooting) = 33wins - playoffs
Suns (lack of experience, questionable coaching, inconsistent outside shooting) = 11wins - last in the standings

Experience will come with time.
Bringing a few sharp shooters off the bench should not be that hard to do.
Looks like the big question is the coaching. IMO this team is underachieving, not a good sign for keeping Igor going forward.

[Saberestar]

The guy is emotionless! How is that possible leading a historically bad team?

I'm sure he has yelled at them but being a bunch of 18, 19, and 20 year olds the tears start falling. Boys playing against men.

It is not an excuse the age of the roster. We are young NOW because we were TERRIBLE since the beginning of the season. And Kokoskov deserves some blame. He is too soft IMO.

Where are Canaan, Ariza, Ryan Anderson and Chandler? Yeah, they have been traded/waived because without them we have a nice excuse for other teams and fans and that excuse is that we are too young and we need time to get better. I don't buy it. MEH.

[Bob8]

Let's compare Suns vs Spurs

Aldridge vs Ayton (comparing DA to LA looks spot on to me at this point)
Gay vs Warren
Derozan vs Booker
Forbes vs Bridges
White vs Melton

Mills vs Okobo
Belinelli vs JJ
Gasol vs Oubre
Bertans vs Bender (always wondered will Bender(15 3PFG% this season) become as good as someone like Bonner/Bertans, what a waste of a #4 pick)
Poeltl vs Holmes

Talent-wise I don't see a big difference.

Spurs (experience, good coaching, good outside shooting) = 33wins - playoffs
Suns (lack of experience, questionable coaching, inconsistent outside shooting) = 11wins - last in the standings

Experience will come with time.
Bringing a few sharp shooters off the bench should not be that hard to do.
Looks like the big question is the coaching. IMO this team is underachieving, not a good sign for keeping Igor going forward.

Maybe you should compare some advanced stats between those players, before you blame almost everything on the coach. The difference is huge. Yes I know, there is some team factor in those stats too, but if Bridges can have good defensive stats and Booker good offensive stats than others could have good stats too. I didn’t look, but I don’t believe many outside of Bridges have positive RPM. All Suns are underachieving, players and coach. Or maybe they simply are not that good. It looks to me that SA players are levels better Suns players. At least results and advanced stats are saying that. And yes Kokoskov is part of the problem too. But the real question is, which much better coach will come in Phoenix and turn this team around?

[sunsbg]

Let's compare Suns vs Spurs

Aldridge vs Ayton (comparing DA to LA looks spot on to me at this point)
Gay vs Warren
Derozan vs Booker
Forbes vs Bridges
White vs Melton

Mills vs Okobo
Belinelli vs JJ
Gasol vs Oubre
Bertans vs Bender (always wondered will Bender(15 3PFG% this season) become as good as someone like Bonner/Bertans, what a waste of a #4 pick)
Poeltl vs Holmes

Talent-wise I don't see a big difference.

Spurs (experience, good coaching, good outside shooting) = 33wins - playoffs
Suns (lack of experience, questionable coaching, inconsistent outside shooting) = 11wins - last in the standings

Experience will come with time.
Bringing a few sharp shooters off the bench should not be that hard to do.
Looks like the big question is the coaching. IMO this team is underachieving, not a good sign for keeping Igor going forward.

Maybe you should compare some advanced stats between those players, before you blame almost everything on the coach. The difference is huge. Yes I know, there is some team factor in those stats too, but if Bridges can have good defensive stats and Booker good offensive stats than others could have good stats too. I didn’t look, but I don’t believe many outside of Bridges have positive RPM. All Suns are underachieving, players and coach. Or maybe they simply are not that good. It looks to me that SA players are levels better Suns players. At least results and advanced stats are saying that. And yes Kokoskov is part of the problem too. But the real question is, which much better coach will come in Phoenix and turn this team around?

So now we can't even talk basketball without bringing advanced stats into the discussion.. You stats guys are killing me.

I said talent-wise there is not much difference, obviously talking more about the future, so not sure why you think I'm interested in advanced stats while comparing players on a good team vs bad team.

Good coached teams are always overachieving - they play hard as the coach is usually a good motivator, they have a system designed to make the players succeed(and improve their advanced stats ). What do you think will be the win record without Igor ? 5 wins ?

On your question, I don't know who is that coach, but more and more it looks like it's not Kokoskov.

[Bob8]

Let's compare Suns vs Spurs

Aldridge vs Ayton (comparing DA to LA looks spot on to me at this point)
Gay vs Warren
Derozan vs Booker
Forbes vs Bridges
White vs Melton

Mills vs Okobo
Belinelli vs JJ
Gasol vs Oubre
Bertans vs Bender (always wondered will Bender(15 3PFG% this season) become as good as someone like Bonner/Bertans, what a waste of a #4 pick)
Poeltl vs Holmes

Talent-wise I don't see a big difference.

Spurs (experience, good coaching, good outside shooting) = 33wins - playoffs
Suns (lack of experience, questionable coaching, inconsistent outside shooting) = 11wins - last in the standings

Experience will come with time.
Bringing a few sharp shooters off the bench should not be that hard to do.
Looks like the big question is the coaching. IMO this team is underachieving, not a good sign for keeping Igor going forward.

Maybe you should compare some advanced stats between those players, before you blame almost everything on the coach. The difference is huge. Yes I know, there is some team factor in those stats too, but if Bridges can have good defensive stats and Booker good offensive stats than others could have good stats too. I didn’t look, but I don’t believe many outside of Bridges have positive RPM. All Suns are underachieving, players and coach. Or maybe they simply are not that good. It looks to me that SA players are levels better Suns players. At least results and advanced stats are saying that. And yes Kokoskov is part of the problem too. But the real question is, which much better coach will come in Phoenix and turn this team around?

So now we can't even talk basketball without bringing advanced stats into the discussion.. You stats guys are killing me.

I said talent-wise there is not much difference, obviously talking more about the future, so not sure why you think I'm interested in advanced stats while comparing players on a good team vs bad team.

Good coached teams are always overachieving - they play hard as the coach is usually a good motivator, they have a system designed to make the players succeed(and improve their advanced stats ). What do you think will be the win record without Igor ? 5 wins ?

On your question, I don't know who is that coach, but more and more it looks like it's not Kokoskov.

It seems to me that you compare future value of Suns players with present value of SA and expect that Kokoskov has results with future value of Suns players.

It looks to me that advanced stats and results are totally correlated in this case.

I can ask you similar question, do you really believe that Popovich would have many more wins with the Suns?