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2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

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Would you prefer a regular season from Christmas to late June and playoffs late June to late August?

Yes, move season back
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Post#101 » by El Hespiritu » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:11 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional
I'm answering before checking it... I assume you're meaning I made some major grammar mistake and I'm now really worried.
I'll check it...

Addedit: OK. I see. It could be read easily that way.
I'll delete it from my post 'til fixed.

I present my most humble apologies (I swear I'm not being ironic... I'm actually blushed).
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Post#102 » by Kerrsed » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:13 am

Damkac wrote:In few years when talking about "The Phoenix Suns Nightmare Years" McDonough and Jones will be mentioned in one breth.

If the team don't improve much next season I'm 100% sure Book will demand trade. Not sure if it's to Minny, but I think he is sick of this team already.


Funny thing is, im reading The Ringers new article about "Why the Pistons traded Drummond for the contents of a junk drawer", and pretty much the 2nd paragraph brought up a familiar name.

Detroit will spend many more years undoing the wrongs from the Stan Van Gundy and Jeff Bower era, and from Joe Dumars before him. They committed to size and strength when the rest of the league explored pace and space. Their money’s been locked up for years, from the Drummond extension to re-signing Reggie Jackson (his contract finally expires this season) to acquiring Blake Griffin. Because why not add a rarely-healthy 30-year-old on a max contract to the mix? It’s 2020, and Josh Smith—who last played for the Pistons on December 21, 2014—is still on this season’s payroll. If there’s a positive in how egregiously meek the return for Drummond is, it’s that for once, the Pistons haven’t committed to much. The future isn’t bright by any means, but for the first time in a long time, it’s open.
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Post#103 » by Kerrsed » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:17 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
El Hespiritu wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Black troll?
Yes... since five months ago or so.
There's even some threads with that name and a bunch of references in gifs and memes.
lilfishi22 wrote:That's kinda racist
No, it isn't.

Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional


Uh.....You do realize that the Foreign Rubio Contingency is called the Black Troll Suns (Taken from the Soundgarden song Black Hole Sun) right?? In Minnesota they were The Timbertrolls. In Utah they were The uTROLL Jazz.

Now im starting o think that YOUR trolling!
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Post#104 » by El Hespiritu » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:21 am

Kerrsed wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
El Hespiritu wrote:Yes... since five months ago or so.
There's even some threads with that name and a bunch of references in gifs and memes.No, it isn't.

Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional


Uh.....You do realize that the Foreign Rubio Contingency is called the Black Troll Suns (Taken from the Soundgarden song Black Hole Sun) right?? In Minnesota they were The Timbertrolls. In Utah they were The uTROLL Jazz.

Now im starting o think that YOUR trolling!
I actually expect he's being a bit ironic.

But I think he's right about the wide possibility of misunderstanding, so I'll provisionally delete it (there's a reply quoted by him... he'll do whatever he wants about it).
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Post#105 » by bwoolf2 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:22 am

So looking at the draft I think the Suns trade up for Lamello his shot hasn't been consistent but it's not broke like Rubio's or his brothers. He is actually a better prospect than Lonzo, physically just bigger and stronger without the broken looking shot. Having a strong defensive Ben Simmons type guard with a better shot playing next to Booker would be nice, also someone that constantly pushes the ball would be nice. He also comes in having played some pro ball overseas, if he was playing college right now he would be the clear #1 pick
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Post#106 » by TheLogician » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:23 am

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Post#107 » by Desertfox » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:24 am

Lol, how many want to bet James Jones will have to suit up by the end of the year?
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Post#108 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:25 am

Kerrsed wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
El Hespiritu wrote:Yes... since five months ago or so.
There's even some threads with that name and a bunch of references in gifs and memes.No, it isn't.

Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional


Uh.....You do realize that the Foreign Rubio Contingency is called the Black Troll Suns (Taken from the Soundgarden song Black Hole Sun) right?? In Minnesota they were The Timbertrolls. In Utah they were The uTROLL Jazz.

Now im starting o think that YOUR trolling!

Oh it's fine if they want to call themselves Black Troll Suns

But when it's referencing our African American general manager, it could easily be misconstrued.
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Post#109 » by Blonde » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:26 am

TheLogician wrote:It makes more sense to sign Gallo and draft Nico than trade picks/assets for Markkanen and Dinwiddie. Two guys who don't defend. At least get a proven commodity and a guy with upside on a rookie scale contract.

What are your thoughts on Nico? I was very low on him to start the year but he’s been growing on me more and more. If I knew he could even be a slightly below average defender he’d be my #1 target.
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Post#110 » by BobbieL » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:26 am

Gina Mizell talk to Jones - nothing much. Basically what we thought he would say: "team is competitive, getting better, need to learn to win and get healthy. want to see how they finish, blah blah blah.."

But Amico has this nugget:

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Post#111 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:26 am

El Hespiritu wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional
I'm answering before checking it... I assume you're meaning I made some major grammar mistake and I'm now really worried.
I'll check it...

Addedit: OK. I see. It could be read easily that way.
I'll delete it from my post 'til fixed.

I present my most humble apologies (I swear I'm not being ironic... I'm actually blushed).

Simple misunderstanding. I've removed my post referencing that image
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Post#112 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:28 am

BobbieL wrote:Gina Mizell talk to Jones - nothing much. Basically what we thought he would say: "team is competitive, getting better, need to learn to win and get healthy. want to see how they finish, blah blah blah.."

But Amico has this nugget:

Read on Twitter

Basically suggesting Jones couldn't negotiate a single trade to improve the team.
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Post#113 » by TheLogician » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:28 am

bwoolf2 wrote:So looking at the draft I think the Suns trade up for Lamello his shot hasn't been consistent but it's not broke like Rubio's or his brothers. He is actually a better prospect than Lonzo, physically just bigger and stronger without the broken looking shot. Having a strong defensive Ben Simmons type guard with a better shot playing next to Booker would be nice, also someone that constantly pushes the ball would be nice. He also comes in having played some pro ball overseas, if he was playing college right now he would be the clear #1 pick


I agree. I expect him to go #1 anyway.
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Post#114 » by BobbieL » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:29 am

TheLogician wrote:
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I don't get it. Maybe Jones knows some players will be back post ASB. But for the next week - its going to stink if some guys don't come back.
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Post#115 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:32 am

Desertfox wrote:Lol, how many want to bet James Jones will have to suit up by the end of the year?


BobbieL wrote:
TheLogician wrote:
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I don't get it. Maybe Jones knows some players will be back post ASB. But for the next week - its going to stink if some guys don't come back.




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Post#116 » by TheLogician » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:40 am

Blonde wrote:
TheLogician wrote:It makes more sense to sign Gallo and draft Nico than trade picks/assets for Markkanen and Dinwiddie. Two guys who don't defend. At least get a proven commodity and a guy with upside on a rookie scale contract.

What are your thoughts on Nico? I was very low on him to start the year but he’s been growing on me more and more. If I knew he could even be a slightly below average defender he’d be my #1 target.


I think he could be exactly what we need as far as a PG who shoots and runs the offense. He needs to get stronger and obviously doesn't have the wingspan to be a plus defender but I think he can be a Curry-level defender at least. He's just young and needs time, the instincts are there. If Jerome can be our Luke Kennard and Rubio moves to the bench, we're looking better imo.
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Post#117 » by sunsbum » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:40 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Calling James Jones a black troll isn't racist?

Black GM almost sounds professional


Uh.....You do realize that the Foreign Rubio Contingency is called the Black Troll Suns (Taken from the Soundgarden song Black Hole Sun) right?? In Minnesota they were The Timbertrolls. In Utah they were The uTROLL Jazz.

Now im starting o think that YOUR trolling!

Oh it's fine if they want to call themselves Black Troll Suns

But when it's referencing our African American general manager, it could easily be misconstrued.


Come on man. It really just looks like you are looking for a reason to get offended. Just get on with your life.
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Post#118 » by hollywood6964 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:40 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Gina Mizell talk to Jones - nothing much. Basically what we thought he would say: "team is competitive, getting better, need to learn to win and get healthy. want to see how they finish, blah blah blah.."

But Amico has this nugget:

Read on Twitter

Basically suggesting Jones couldn't negotiate a single trade to improve the team.

I tried to be positive this year, but organization is trash.
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Post#119 » by hollywood6964 » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:42 am

sunsbum wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
Uh.....You do realize that the Foreign Rubio Contingency is called the Black Troll Suns (Taken from the Soundgarden song Black Hole Sun) right?? In Minnesota they were The Timbertrolls. In Utah they were The uTROLL Jazz.

Now im starting o think that YOUR trolling!

Oh it's fine if they want to call themselves Black Troll Suns

But when it's referencing our African American general manager, it could easily be misconstrued.


Come on man. It really just looks like you are looking for a reason to get offended. Just get on with your life.

Come on man, how many white jokes do I hear on this board per year, and hell, on inside the nba n even espn? I should outraged. expect I'm not. Everyone needs to get over themselves.
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Post#120 » by sunsbum » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:49 am

Ty Jerome needs those reps. I know over half the board has given up on him already but the kid can play. Really the only trade I'm sad that didn't happen is kennard. Everything is is pretty meh. Lots of GMs sat on their hands this deadline. Portland is going to lose Whiteside at the end of this year. Big time asset they are letting walk. Kevin love/TT/Drummond is just weird.
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