The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Ghost of Kleine]

Would you guys do KD for MPJ+Zeke+Braun+Watson+31FP unprotected?

Or MPJ+Zeke+Watson+Strawther+31FP unprocted+32 swap unprotected?

I'd do either trade, only I have no interest in Watson. Switch him.out with Holmes and everything's good!

[Ghost of Kleine]

Report: 'Some teams expect' Sixers to consider using No. 3 overall pick to swap Paul George for Kevin Durant

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-2025-nba-mock-draft-rumors-espn-paul-george-contract-kevin-durant-trade-lauri-markkanen/

It's Givony so it's a credible source.

"Some teams expect the Sixers to be active in trade conversations, with names such as Kevin Durant (Phoenix) and Lauri Markkanen (Utah) as potential targets in packages that could include Paul George and the No. 3 pick. Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey has made a career of being active and aggressive on the trade front, but historically, it's rare to see a top-three pick being traded."

That would be an interesting offer for the Suns.

I like Edgecombe who is projected to be #3-#5 in the draft, some similarities with Oladipo/Butler as a two-way player.

If you think the offer as a Paul George + Edgecombe for KD doesn't look bad at all. I don't know if I would do it but looks good enough to think carefully about it.

Can we expand this to a three or four team deal? I would send PG to a third team and get back assets.

Yes. There'll be a number of bottom feeder teams that can't ever seem to attract stars or big name players. And George unlike Beal doesn't have a NTC. So we could really send him anywhere we'd need to for pieces and assets.

[bullsaficianado]

That is pretty tempting Durant for Paul George and the #3 pick which hopefully is Ace Bailey. It's not tempting for PG but Ace Bailey.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

That is pretty tempting Durant for Paul George and the #3 pick which hopefully is Ace Bailey. It's not tempting for PG but Ace Bailey.

I'm fairly confident that George could be moved elsewhere. He's better positionally than Beal, and doesn't have a no trade clause either.

[bullsaficianado]

That is pretty tempting Durant for Paul George and the #3 pick which hopefully is Ace Bailey. It's not tempting for PG but Ace Bailey.

I'm fairly confident that George could be moved elsewhere. He's better positionally than Beal, and doesn't have a no trade clause either.

Yeah Suns could move George so the real trade would be Durant for #3 which will likely be Ace Bailey. I like Ace Bailey's game a lot but also worried the Spurs might take him at #2 instead of Dylan Harper so this kind of trade would not be without risk.

[Frank Lee]

If Paul George has trade value, then Philly will just trade him.
Occasionally logic can be applied to these fantastical trade scenarios

[Frank Lee]

And getting #3 is no better prize than getting #15. There is enough talent at the end of this draft to do like last yr with a targeted player, either moving up a slot or two or down.

[bullsaficianado]

The media starts this nonsense for clickbait. The odds of Philly trading the #3 pick, PG for KD, yeah probably not likely. It's still tempting and fun to talk about.

[TeamTragic]

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Definitely on the right track!

[TeamTragic]

The media starts this nonsense for clickbait. The odds of Philly trading the #3 pick, PG for KD, yeah probably not likely. It's still tempting and fun to talk about.

KD to Sixers
PG to Jazz
Lauri to Suns

[TeamTragic]

It's Givony so it's a credible source.

"Some teams expect the Sixers to be active in trade conversations, with names such as Kevin Durant (Phoenix) and Lauri Markkanen (Utah) as potential targets in packages that could include Paul George and the No. 3 pick. Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey has made a career of being active and aggressive on the trade front, but historically, it's rare to see a top-three pick being traded."

That would be an interesting offer for the Suns.

I like Edgecombe who is projected to be #3-#5 in the draft, some similarities with Oladipo/Butler as a two-way player.

If you think the offer as a Paul George + Edgecombe for KD doesn't look bad at all. I don't know if I would do it but looks good enough to think carefully about it.

Can we expand this to a three or four team deal? I would send PG to a third team and get back assets.

Yes. There'll be a number of bottom feeder teams that can't ever seem to attract stars or big name players. And George unlike Beal doesn't have a NTC. So we could really send him anywhere we'd need to for pieces and assets.

Definitely can trade both PG/Beal to EC teams that didn't get a high pick.

Otherwise they will continue to get shafted by the NBA. Trades are the only way they can improve.

[thamadkant]

PG + Pick 3 for KD is OK for me.

But, there's hope that PG will become serviceable.

Pick 3 will definitely help and Suns MUST draft BPA.


No need to involve Jazz. Markannen is good and all but Pick 3 and salvaging the next 7 years is more of a priority. Also means Booker will want out sooner.

[thamadkant]

Coaching search is redundant. If it's Chris Quinn, it just means he's sitting at home next year getting paid 5M a year as Suns look for his replacement.

Ishiba is awful as an owner and GM, let's be real, he's making all the operational calls.

While Suns have Booker and Ishiba believes he's a superstar who will lead Suns to the finals, Suns is just a way for assistant coaches to get their bag and take a few years off work.

[lilfishi22]

Report: 'Some teams expect' Sixers to consider using No. 3 overall pick to swap Paul George for Kevin Durant

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-2025-nba-mock-draft-rumors-espn-paul-george-contract-kevin-durant-trade-lauri-markkanen/

As attractive as that #3 is but we're ALREADY having real issues with one untradeably bad contract, I just can't see the #3 being worth taking on another, longer untradeable contract.

[lilfishi22]

Would you guys do KD for MPJ+Zeke+Braun+Watson+31FP unprotected?

Or MPJ+Zeke+Watson+Strawther+31FP unprocted+32 swap unprotected?

I'd do either trade, only I have no interest in Watson. Switch him.out with Holmes and everything's good!

I'd do it but I don't see why Denver would. I get MPJ for KD is a serious upgrade for them but giving up depth and I believe the last of their FRP's to do it just wouldn't make sense for them. KD can do a lot of heavy lifting but he can't replace 2 starters, one of whom played well over 40mpg in the playoffs.

[dremill24]

If we're going down the PG rabbit hole and assuming Philly is interested (unlikely IMO) and someone at #3 is worth it, Denver could be interesting. They were reportedly pursuing PG last summer and have some bad contracts to send out. Maybe...

KD to Philly
PG, 29, 2nd to Denver
MPJ, Nnaji, 3 to Phoenix
Saric, 2nds to Team D exception

or something of the like, maybe Denver needs another minor asset? Assumes an anticipated reasonable bounceback for PG

[lilfishi22]

It's Givony so it's a credible source.

"Some teams expect the Sixers to be active in trade conversations, with names such as Kevin Durant (Phoenix) and Lauri Markkanen (Utah) as potential targets in packages that could include Paul George and the No. 3 pick. Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey has made a career of being active and aggressive on the trade front, but historically, it's rare to see a top-three pick being traded."

That would be an interesting offer for the Suns.

I like Edgecombe who is projected to be #3-#5 in the draft, some similarities with Oladipo/Butler as a two-way player.

If you think the offer as a Paul George + Edgecombe for KD doesn't look bad at all. I don't know if I would do it but looks good enough to think carefully about it.

Can we expand this to a three or four team deal? I would send PG to a third team and get back assets.

Yes. There'll be a number of bottom feeder teams that can't ever seem to attract stars or big name players. And George unlike Beal doesn't have a NTC. So we could really send him anywhere we'd need to for pieces and assets.

Which bottom feeder is going to splash that kind of money on a 35 year old PG. The lack of an NTC makes him marginally more attractive only when you compare him to Beal but no one is seriously looking at Beal

[lilfishi22]

That is pretty tempting Durant for Paul George and the #3 pick which hopefully is Ace Bailey. It's not tempting for PG but Ace Bailey.

I'm fairly confident that George could be moved elsewhere. He's better positionally than Beal, and doesn't have a no trade clause either.

The very simply fact that PG is being talked about in conjunction with the #3 pick goes to show how damn near untradeable he is that Philly needs to attach a top 3 lotto pick just to move on from him.

[Ghost of Kleine]

That is pretty tempting Durant for Paul George and the #3 pick which hopefully is Ace Bailey. It's not tempting for PG but Ace Bailey.

I'm fairly confident that George could be moved elsewhere. He's better positionally than Beal, and doesn't have a no trade clause either.

The very simply fact that PG is being talked about in conjunction with the #3 pick goes to show how damn near untradeable he is that Philly needs to attach a top 3 lotto pick just to move on from him.

Eye of the beholder on George man. Again there are bottom feeder teams that can't seem to ever land stars or big name players, and teams with horrible front office management too ( maybe not as bad as ours).....lol.

But there are teams that could still use his production and skillset. And I believe that he could still recoup value only being 35 yrs old in a different situation/ environment. And he doesn't have a NTC too, so we really could trade him anywhere that has interest.


Honestly, you don't think it's possible that any of Charlotte, Chicago, Sacramento, Memphis, or Washington would have interest in him as a big name signing to help try to push them into the playoffs? All have semi bad- bad large salary contracts they could consolidate for him.

He's not nearly as untradable as Beal because he doesn't have a no trade clause. And let's be honest, there's just no logistical way we could compete next season anyways as currently constructed. And without our own picks, the chances we'd see a top 3 pick (outside of this trade) in the next 7- 10 years is very very unlikely.

I don't want George at all, BUT I'd absolutely want that #3 pick to either keep! Use in a trade back scenario for multiple assets! Or to try and trade with the Rockets for our picks back! At least the #10 pick and our 27 or 29 1st back! Also, any team desiring to put together a premium package for Giannis will covet this pick! And that opens doors to possible trades of Beal or George while getting other assets back in the deal too.