The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

[BobbieL]

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Should probably trade Booker before he retires to pursue streaming full time.

You and Bobby need to start a group together.

there is more than us two

I have resigned myself that Booker will not only be traded but also extended
that said, i think the trade should take that into account and get back players that fit his timeline
I don't think Gobert fits that timeline. Now would I want him over Randle - yes. But I think the Suns can get younger and build a team around Booker similar to the team from 2021 to Feb 8 2023

[Fo-Real]

NAA, MY THOUGHTS WERE CRAZY..... I ERASED IT,

[RaisingArizona]

NAA, MY THOUGHTS WERE CRAZY..... I ERASED IT,

now we want to know

[Fo-Real]

NAA, MY THOUGHTS WERE CRAZY..... I ERASED IT,

now we want to know

I had softened on the Gobert aspect, even though I hate everything about his game.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Really though, we should trade KD and Book in separate trades to Houston and get back:

#10, our 27 and 29 picks, their 28 and 30 picks (they have swap rights with Brooklyn in 27 and a pick from Dallas in 29 so getting those picks would be possible).

Then Brooks, Green, Jabari Smith, Eason, Whitmore and Reed Shepherd.

I'd love Amen Thompson in there, but I doubt they'd deal him.

But our 3 picks, two of theirs and a ton of young players, and buddies KD and Book can continue playing together along with FVV, Thompson and Sengun. I'd take FVV over Green too if need be...or over Brooks I suppose.

Not sure if that works salary wise, and ultimately I'd rather just trade Book to Houston and get all our picks back and one of their's along with a player and get something else for KD (the best package with young players).

But maybe Book would be moer amenable to trade if he could keep playing with his buddy KD.

But it also came from Marc Stein and Jake Fischer though man.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/raptorsnation.com/2025/06/16/raptors-rumors-toronto-reportedly-eyeing-a-kevin-durant-trade/amp/

The Toronto Raptors could be eyeing a big Kevin Durant trade.

According to Marc Stein, the Raptors are among the teams open to acquiring the 36-year-old this offseason. Durant is on the final year of his current deal and is set to earn $54.7 million next season. He is eligible to sign a two-year, $122 million extension with any team that acquires him.

“What you’re hearing now on Kevin Durant, there are teams out there that are saying, you know what, we know he’s only under contract for one more year at about 55 million. We’re willing to gamble on him and the Toronto Raptors are one of those teams,” Stein said on the ALL NBA Podcast.

If the Raptors want to trade for Durant they would need to include two starters to match his salary. A package of RJ Barrett and Jakob Poeltl works. The Raptors also have the No. 9 pick in the upcoming 2025 NBA Draft they can include in the deal.

The Raptors would be betting big on a Durant, Brandon Ingram and Scottie Barnes trio. However, with the Eastern Conference being wide open going into next season, Raptors President Masai Ujiri could get aggressive once again.

If the Raptors did pull off such a deal, they would have depth issues they would have to fix. Particularly at the center position. By trading away Poeltl, the Raptors would be giving up their only reliable center on the team. Also, the Raptors would be surrendering future draft capital for a player who could leave after one season.

If the Raptors trade for Durant it would definitely raise their ceiling, however it is still a big risk considering his age and contract situation.

https://hoopshype.com/2025/06/16/raptors-would-be-willing-to-trade-rj-barrett-or-immanuel-quickley-jakob-poeltl-top-10-pick-for-kevin-durant/

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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You and Bobby need to start a group together.

You tryna join too?

[Revived]

I just hope we get some talent back. Everyone is obsessed with picks. I honestly do t care about picks 3-5 years down the road. I want to watch a team with some talent and continue to grow. Picks can always be obtained along the way.

Picks are a way to get talent though even via trades.

Matt Ishbia is learning the hard way (or at least I hope that he’s learning) that in the NBA, draft picks are the currency…not dollars. You can’t trade for a good player just because you have dollars…however you have a chance at trading for a good player if you have lot of draft picks.

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If only Suns hired an NBA qualified GM that actually has many years of experience working for some successful franchise under a good GM so he can work a deal that makes sense for all parties.

But nah Ishbia wanted to hire his “yes man” MSU buddy who’s awkward as ***ck in interviews and probably in trade negotiations too.

[Revived]

And Durant admitted to Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports that he pushed for the Bradley Beal acquisition. Another big mess. Maybe the best thing for Durant is not getting what he wants.

Every time Charania talks about Durant, he mentions “wild cards” and “dark horses.” His colleague Marc Spears even said there's “fear” from KD and his agent Rich Kleiman that teams won't “respect” what Durant wants.

Sure, everyone wants a say in where they live and work. But Durant’s on a run of bad choices. First KD picked Brooklyn, and the Nets had to trade Jarrett Allen because KD and Kyrie Irving insisted on signing DeAndre Jordan. Disaster. Then he picked Phoenix. After one year, both he and Devin Booker wanted Deandre Ayton to get traded, which resulted in Jusuf Nurkic. And Durant admitted to Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports that he pushed for the Bradley Beal acquisition. Another big mess. Maybe the best thing for Durant is not getting what he wants.

In fact, Durant has already been denied by his top choices. There were rumblings at the trade deadline KD wanted to land with the Celtics or Knicks. New York’s interest reportedly isn’t mutual anymore. Boston’s cap sheet and trajectory make that scenario highly unlikely.

Source: [https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/kevin-durant-trade-destinations-which-wild-card-teams-might-want-to-roll-the-dice-on-a-deal-for-kd-134127536.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/kevin-durant-trade-destinations-which-wild-card-teams-might-want-to-roll-the-dice-on-a-deal-for-kd-134127536.html)

[BobbieL]

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If only Suns hired an NBA qualified GM that actually has many years of experience working for some successful franchise under a good GM so he can work a deal that makes sense for all parties.

But nah Ishbia wanted to hire his “yes man” MSU buddy who’s awkward as ***ck in interviews and probably in trade negotiations too.

Pretty much

If he had hired say Bob Myers -- during the interview process - Bob Myers would have had values for both Durant and Booker as well possibly Allen and O'Neale

What overpaid name player will Ishbia trade for that won't bring back the draft capital and also not make the team more than the 10th seed but "hey, look at me, I traded for Durant and am still paying this much in salary!!!" e,g,. Rudy Gobert

Ishbia is going to hose this up

[RaisingArizona]

You and Bobby need to start a group together.

You tryna join too?

Sorry I'm in the Frank Lee and Sunsbum group already

[BobbieL]

And Durant admitted to Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports that he pushed for the Bradley Beal acquisition. Another big mess. Maybe the best thing for Durant is not getting what he wants.

Every time Charania talks about Durant, he mentions “wild cards” and “dark horses.” His colleague Marc Spears even said there's “fear” from KD and his agent Rich Kleiman that teams won't “respect” what Durant wants.

Sure, everyone wants a say in where they live and work. But Durant’s on a run of bad choices. First KD picked Brooklyn, and the Nets had to trade Jarrett Allen because KD and Kyrie Irving insisted on signing DeAndre Jordan. Disaster. Then he picked Phoenix. After one year, both he and Devin Booker wanted Deandre Ayton to get traded, which resulted in Jusuf Nurkic. And Durant admitted to Vincent Goodwill of Yahoo Sports that he pushed for the Bradley Beal acquisition. Another big mess. Maybe the best thing for Durant is not getting what he wants.

In fact, Durant has already been denied by his top choices. There were rumblings at the trade deadline KD wanted to land with the Celtics or Knicks. New York’s interest reportedly isn’t mutual anymore. Boston’s cap sheet and trajectory make that scenario highly unlikely.

Source: [https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/kevin-durant-trade-destinations-which-wild-card-teams-might-want-to-roll-the-dice-on-a-deal-for-kd-134127536.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/kevin-durant-trade-destinations-which-wild-card-teams-might-want-to-roll-the-dice-on-a-deal-for-kd-134127536.html)

So Ishbia was listening to Durant - Whisky Tango Foxtrot
and the article says Booker and Durant wanted Ayton traded

Maybe the problem wasn't CP3, Ayton or Beal - maybe its as easy as "35+1=36"

[RaisingArizona]

if the offers suck you wait till the deadline... not the end of the world. i doubt it gets to that point though

[BobbieL]

if the offers suck you wait till the deadline... not the end of the world. i doubt it gets to that point though

Just trade him already
For three years since Flex said Durant wanted to be traded to Phoenix
- just too much drama around the guy
And team has been worse every single day since the Durant trade.

[starbosa10]

if the offers suck you wait till the deadline... not the end of the world. i doubt it gets to that point though

Just trade him already
For three years since Flex said Durant wanted to be traded to Phoenix
- just too much drama around the guy
And team has been worse every single day since the Durant trade.

If the best offers are currently vassell/barnes/14 and green/10. I'd rather just stay. I dint even think vassell/green are necessarily plus assets on their contracts

[BobbieL]

if the offers suck you wait till the deadline... not the end of the world. i doubt it gets to that point though

Just trade him already
For three years since Flex said Durant wanted to be traded to Phoenix
- just too much drama around the guy
And team has been worse every single day since the Durant trade.

If the best offers are currently vassell/barnes/14 and green/10. I'd rather just stay. I dint even think vassell/green are necessarily plus assets on their contracts

I don't love the idea of Vassell or Green either - hopefully they would have a plan to trade them.

One thing about the rumored Toronto offer - those guys wouldn't need to be "rerouted". Get them to include Grady Dick

[starbosa10]

Just trade him already
For three years since Flex said Durant wanted to be traded to Phoenix
- just too much drama around the guy
And team has been worse every single day since the Durant trade.

If the best offers are currently vassell/barnes/14 and green/10. I'd rather just stay. I dint even think vassell/green are necessarily plus assets on their contracts

I don't love the idea of Vassell or Green either - hopefully they would have a plan to trade them.

One thing about the rumored Toronto offer - those guys wouldn't need to be "rerouted"

Yeah I'd be fine with the RJ/Poetl/9 deal in the end if we are getting #9. Not a fantastic deal but not terrible all things considered

[MrMiyagi]

If the best offers are currently vassell/barnes/14 and green/10. I'd rather just stay. I dint even think vassell/green are necessarily plus assets on their contracts

I don't love the idea of Vassell or Green either - hopefully they would have a plan to trade them.

One thing about the rumored Toronto offer - those guys wouldn't need to be "rerouted"

Yeah I'd be fine with the RJ/Poetl/9 deal in the end if we are getting #9. Not a fantastic deal but not terrible all things considered

For Beal, right?

[Saberestar]

If the best offers are currently vassell/barnes/14 and green/10. I'd rather just stay. I dint even think vassell/green are necessarily plus assets on their contracts

I don't love the idea of Vassell or Green either - hopefully they would have a plan to trade them.

One thing about the rumored Toronto offer - those guys wouldn't need to be "rerouted"

Yeah I'd be fine with the RJ/Poetl/9 deal in the end if we are getting #9. Not a fantastic deal but not terrible all things considered

I would be fine with that package AND a future unprotected pick.