2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[timetoshinebaby]

Pick 10 is fine. Its been reported some teams were cheering to not win the lottery. That shows you the draft this year. Obviously you'd rather 1 than 10 from a basketball perspective but when salary is considered...

Also its been reported there will be some draft picks up for sale this year, hence, I think its a potential good year to get some bench help. I'm still concerned about that third guy role but getting 10 and I hope we buy another pick, adds some depth. Its also the type of draft where its all over the place so picking in that 10-20 range isn't as bad as it sounds. I'd certainly buy another pick if we can.

I also think that if you are a young guy, you are going to want to go to Suns at 10 rather than say 7, 8 or 9. Hence, the games that get played could see the Suns have more options than we think.

We need a physical trade of Oubre but I don't see where or who. I'd probably like a PF/C but not sure there is much in the market.

[AtheJ415]

Cavs fan here. Would you trade the 10th pick for either Collin Sexton or Darius Garland? I ask in case Cleveland really likes someone like Hayes or Halliburton at 5.

Hard to say without knowing who's there and I didn't really follow Garland last year. Sexton is an interesting guy. Honestly they don't really seem like James Jones type of players though.

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I'd strongly consider Garland. Really depends on if Hayes or Vassell fall to there though. I wouldn't want anything to do with Sexton. His own teammates don't trust his basketball IQ.

[BobbieL]

Seems like the best short term and long term move is to operate over the cap this summer (assuming we get there responsibly). Ink Baynes and Saric to overpaid 1 year deals and then use the MLE to add guard depth. We’d have nice tradeable contracts for non-core players that can be used as salary ballast during the season. We would definitely have the depth and talent to push into the playoff race, and then we have a lot more cap space the following summer when we need it.

You’d be sacrificing signing a bigger name this year for the opportunity to do so next year, and you make it much easier to trade for a star level player.

I agree. End of the day - this makes the most sense to me. I just have not seen a name in free agency that would be signed that would be worth giving up cap space in 2021 for. And if the team does continue to show improvement, much better chance of being an option for the higher tier players. One year deals for Saric and Bayne, MLE for guard depth - I am totally on board with this.

[Barkley6]

Seems like the best short term and long term move is to operate over the cap this summer (assuming we get there responsibly). Ink Baynes and Saric to overpaid 1 year deals and then use the MLE to add guard depth. We’d have nice tradeable contracts for non-core players that can be used as salary ballast during the season. We would definitely have the depth and talent to push into the playoff race, and then we have a lot more cap space the following summer when we need it.

You’d be sacrificing signing a bigger name this year for the opportunity to do so next year, and you make it much easier to trade for a star level player.

I agree. End of the day - this makes the most sense to me. I just have not seen a name in free agency that would be signed that would be worth giving up cap space in 2021 for. And if the team does continue to show improvement, much better chance of being an option for the higher tier players. One year deals for Saric and Bayne, MLE for guard depth - I am totally on board with this.

I dont think you can get a 1 year deal for Saric. He played decent all season and was huge off the bench in the bubble. He's a FA for the first time and will want to have some stability. Also, keep in mind, he's going to get offers from other teams. What if, say, Miami comes and offers him 35 million over 3 years? That's not terrible value, but it does eat up future space.

So the question becomes, are you willing to let Dario walk to preserve future space? Letting him leave creates a big hole in our roster as he's probably our second best rebounder, best bench player and one of our only serviceable big men. It would also wreck the continuity we've created, and possibly force a rookie big to take on a bigger role in his first season.

What if we let Dario walk, putting all our eggs in the 2021 basket, and we end up striking out with the big names? Then what's the plan?

[BobbieL]

Seems like the best short term and long term move is to operate over the cap this summer (assuming we get there responsibly). Ink Baynes and Saric to overpaid 1 year deals and then use the MLE to add guard depth. We’d have nice tradeable contracts for non-core players that can be used as salary ballast during the season. We would definitely have the depth and talent to push into the playoff race, and then we have a lot more cap space the following summer when we need it.

You’d be sacrificing signing a bigger name this year for the opportunity to do so next year, and you make it much easier to trade for a star level player.

I agree. End of the day - this makes the most sense to me. I just have not seen a name in free agency that would be signed that would be worth giving up cap space in 2021 for. And if the team does continue to show improvement, much better chance of being an option for the higher tier players. One year deals for Saric and Bayne, MLE for guard depth - I am totally on board with this.

I dont think you can get a 1 year deal for Saric. He played decent all season and was huge off the bench in the bubble. He's a FA for the first time and will want to have some stability. Also, keep in mind, he's going to get offers from other teams. What if, say, Miami comes and offers him 35 million over 3 years? That's not terrible value, but it does eat up future space.

So the question becomes, are you willing to let Dario walk to preserve future space? Letting him leave creates a big hole in our roster as he's probably our second best rebounder, best bench player and one of our only serviceable big men. It would also wreck the continuity we've created, and possibly force a rookie big to take on a bigger role in his first season.

What if we let Dario walk, putting all our eggs in the 2021 basket, and we end up striking out with the big names? Then what's the plan?

I liked the way SAric played - really did. My thought was always a two year deal, team option in year 2 where the Suns overpay in Year 1. Meaning if the market as Bobby Marks wrote was 25/3 (I think) - so AAV of $8.33 - the Suns would give him $25 for two - giving him $13m in the first year so basically 150% for the one year deal.

If Saric is at 25/3 - I think I am fine giving up future cap space. If he is higher, hmm - would have to think about that. He was a solid player who really found his niche in Orlando.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

Just a thought. Alvin Gentry might be a really good addition to add to Monty's coaching staff! He's a really great guy, player friendly, respected around the league. Has history/ experience with the suns, And the biggest bonus factor of all in his ties, History with Anthony Davis. That would give us 2 members of our coaching staff that Davis would feel highly comfortable with and whom he respects due to his history with them mentoring him. I'm not sure how much sway it might give us. But I'd have to think that with them mentoring him , And being positive role models in his development, etc. It would at the very least make us a more desirable consideration for him in free agency. All things considered.

[Fo-Real]

Just a thought. Alvin Gentry might be a really good addition to add to Monty's coaching staff! He's a really great guy, player friendly, respected around the league. Has history/ experience with the suns, And the biggest bonus factor of all in his ties, History with Anthony Davis. That would give us 2 members of our coaching staff that Davis would feel highly comfortable with and whom he respects due to his history with them mentoring him. I'm not sure how much sway it might give us. But I'd have to think that with them mentoring him , And being positive role models in his development, etc. It would at the very least make us a more desirable consideration for him in free agency. All things considered.

I love Alvin but one of his problems is that he is old schooled filthy mouthed. He curses a lot and a lot of these new age soft kids respond adversely to that.

[Crives]

Just a thought. Alvin Gentry might be a really good addition to add to Monty's coaching staff! He's a really great guy, player friendly, respected around the league. Has history/ experience with the suns, And the biggest bonus factor of all in his ties, History with Anthony Davis. That would give us 2 members of our coaching staff that Davis would feel highly comfortable with and whom he respects due to his history with them mentoring him. I'm not sure how much sway it might give us. But I'd have to think that with them mentoring him , And being positive role models in his development, etc. It would at the very least make us a more desirable consideration for him in free agency. All things considered.

I've Alvin but one of his problems is that he is old schooled filthy mouthed. He curses a lot and a lot of these new age soft kids respond adversely to that.

Well we laid off two coaches, not sure we would add a higher profile (expensive) assistant right now.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Response to the quote below from the draft thread, which belongs here:

I have a lot of nagging questions abt our lineup next season. Cam may have worked as a stretch 4 in limited minutes, but I think we either sign a 4 or start Kelly/Mikal.

I think it would be a huge mistake to put Cam back on the bench. The way he opens up the floor for our high pick and roll action is just too valuable to our starting unit. Most anyone you put in Cam's place will make us a worse offensive team, and I don't think he was outmatched/outmuscled as a 4 in the bubble - played great D, actually. He's bigger and taller than Kelly and gives us more defensive versatility by not forcing us to put Mikal on the opposing 4.

Kelly's much better at creating his own shot, which would be more valuable off our bench, I think, since our starting lineup features our two best shot-creators in Booker and Rubio. Though I must note the good chemistry that's developed between Cam and Dario, which is a point for the contrary argument.

The biggest problem with most stretch-4s is that they can't play defense, switch or make plays. Cam does all that. He IS the stretch 4 we've been waiting for. Why mess with it?

[Barkley6]

Response to the quote below from the draft thread, which belongs here:

I have a lot of nagging questions abt our lineup next season. Cam may have worked as a stretch 4 in limited minutes, but I think we either sign a 4 or start Kelly/Mikal.

I think it would be a huge mistake to put Cam back on the bench. The way he opens up the floor for our high pick and roll action is just too valuable to our starting unit. Most anyone you put in Cam's place will make us a worse offensive team, and I don't think he was outmatched/outmuscled as a 4 in the bubble - played great D, actually. He's bigger and taller than Kelly and gives us more defensive versatility by not forcing us to put Mikal on the opposing 4.

Kelly's much better at creating his own shot, which would be more valuable off our bench, I think, since our starting lineup features our two best shot-creators in Booker and Rubio. Though I must note the good chemistry that's developed between Cam and Dario, which is a point for the contrary argument.

The biggest problem with most stretch-4s is that they can't play defense, switch or make plays. Cam does all that. He IS the stretch 4 we've been waiting for. Why mess with it?

I think you draft a 4. Oubre, Cam, Mikal and Dario will all get minutes at that slot so there will be less pressure on a rookie to come in and be a starter right away. He can work on his game and play when he's ready. But there are a lot of question marks surrounding true bigs on our roster, and if Saric ends up being our backup C (which may pan out well!), then we need another big body to play the 4.

Keep in mind, the Suns have the possibility of losing Kaminsky, Diallo, Baynes AND Saric in the offseason depending on how things shake out, I'd like to have at least one big man coming in and the draft is the easiest way to get an affordable one that can contribute.

That said, I agree with Oubre off the bench. I think if you're running a bench group of Payne, Carter, Oubre, Saric....that's a lot of energy, hustle, defensive intensity and scoring for the opposition to deal with. That looks like a bench that can build leads, not just maintain them.

[Jdiddy701]

Just a thought. Alvin Gentry might be a really good addition to add to Monty's coaching staff! He's a really great guy, player friendly, respected around the league. Has history/ experience with the suns, And the biggest bonus factor of all in his ties, History with Anthony Davis. That would give us 2 members of our coaching staff that Davis would feel highly comfortable with and whom he respects due to his history with them mentoring him. I'm not sure how much sway it might give us. But I'd have to think that with them mentoring him , And being positive role models in his development, etc. It would at the very least make us a more desirable consideration for him in free agency. All things considered.

You would think a guy like Alvin Gentry would be paid pretty high, even as an assistant coach. Not sure Sarver opens up his wallet to hire him under Monty. Also, I don’t remember Gentry’s and AD’s relationship being that great. I would love him on the staff though.


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[bigfoot]

Response to the quote below from the draft thread, which belongs here:

I have a lot of nagging questions abt our lineup next season. Cam may have worked as a stretch 4 in limited minutes, but I think we either sign a 4 or start Kelly/Mikal.

I think it would be a huge mistake to put Cam back on the bench. The way he opens up the floor for our high pick and roll action is just too valuable to our starting unit. Most anyone you put in Cam's place will make us a worse offensive team, and I don't think he was outmatched/outmuscled as a 4 in the bubble - played great D, actually. He's bigger and taller than Kelly and gives us more defensive versatility by not forcing us to put Mikal on the opposing 4.

Kelly's much better at creating his own shot, which would be more valuable off our bench, I think, since our starting lineup features our two best shot-creators in Booker and Rubio. Though I must note the good chemistry that's developed between Cam and Dario, which is a point for the contrary argument.

The biggest problem with most stretch-4s is that they can't play defense, switch or make plays. Cam does all that. He IS the stretch 4 we've been waiting for. Why mess with it?

100% ... we finally have 4+ starters that can reliably hit the three-ball. Spacing is so huge! It allows Booker and Rubio to operate and forces the defense to collapse. The bonus is it allows Ayton some room to operate in the low post as Cam's defender can't help. Now we just need Ayton to develop that part of his game.

Oubre, Saric, and Baynes will be monsters off the bench. If anything we can draft a backup C/PF and pick up a couple of veteran guards in FA.

[NotACat]

Spoiler:

Who are you guys expecting to take back with that much salary going to Brooklyn?

So if Kelly O has to go, Suns getting Dinwiddie, Magic getting 10, I think it could work with bringing Minnesota into the fold. I got a little carried away with this trade idea, just a heads up, but here's what I cooked up: https://tradenba.com/trades/KRZuhdZEt

It's a lot, but it let's Phoenix and Minnesota upgrade their rosters without denouncing their FA, Brooklyn upgrades their wing defense, and Orlando grabs #10 without losing 15 and get great depth that doesn't destroy long term cap space. My only concern is that this could put Orlando in the luxury tax, but could downgrade Fournier to save money

It's not bad. However, If we're giving up BOTH Oubre AND the 10th pick, I'd need Brooklyn to add Claxton and maybe the 55th pick to the return. Because, After everything is said and done, Our part of the deal not only gets them under the tax, And allows them to more easily resign Harris ( professed key piece for them). But they also move up 9 spots into the lottery. Now Dinwiddie is good for sure! But i'm not sure he's worth giving up BOTH Oubre AND moving back 9 spots too. If we're giving up Oubre AND the 10, Why don't we just send it to Chicago for Markannen( higher value returning piece) and Sato ( better shooter for slightly cheaper) and he's only guaranteed for 5 million in 2021.

? Or we could do the 10 to Detroit for Kennard. Who's a much better shooter and ISO scorer, And for a fraction of the salary this summer. And keep Oubre, Or in a separate trade, Send him to Atlanta for the 4th pick and Dedmon (*Only 1 million guaranteed in 2021). Or to New York for the 8th pick to hopefully draft Toppin or Vassell. Ultimately, The deal is intriguing. But not without more value coming back since we're sending out both Oubre and a Top 10 pick. So for me to accept the deal, It would have to be something like:

https://tradenba.com/trades/CxZdEkbXi

Spoiler:

Only now it's:

Phoenix gets- Dinwiddie/Claxton/Josh Okogie/16(minnesota)/19(from Brooklyn).
Magic get- James Johnson/Garrett Temple/ Jake Layman/ Frank Kaminsky/ 10th pick(Phoenix).
Minnesota gets- Kelly Oubre/ Al Fariq Aminu.
Brooklyn gets- Aaron Gordon.

So for our part, It basically breaks down to- Oubre for Josh Okogie/16th pick. And the 10th pick for Dinwiddie/ Claxton/19th pick. AND with us only taking back 14 million after trading Oubre, We can now sign Grant for 14 million per to fill Oubres' salary slot.
16- Grant Riller. Will take over for Dinwiddie in 2021, When he likely opts out.
19- Tyler Bey.
***Buy a mid 2nd for Tillie.***
In free agency, Sign Grant at 42/3. Then, Resign Saric at 18/2.
- Grant (replaces Oubre).
-Okogie ( Bought out).
-Riller (replaces Okobo).
-Tyler Bey(defensive wing depth).
-Tillie (replaces Saric/ Diallo).
-Claxton (replaces Kaminsky/Baynes).

Potential lineup

-Booker/Rubio/Riller.
-Bridges/Dinwiddie/Carter.
- Grant/T Bey/Cam J.
-Cam J/ Saric/ Tillie.
-Ayton/ Grant/Claxton.

***C Payne- 4th guard/Microwave scorer/ Super 6th man off the bench!
***Ty Jerome-G League.

This is probably closer, but I can't see Brooklyn giving up #20 and Dinwiddie for AG, and with Phoenix getting Okogie, 17, and Claxton in addition to Dinwiddie, I don't think its necessary. I'll post this to the trade thread without #20 going to Phoenix and see what people think.

[bwgood77]

Seems like the best short term and long term move is to operate over the cap this summer (assuming we get there responsibly). Ink Baynes and Saric to overpaid 1 year deals and then use the MLE to add guard depth. We’d have nice tradeable contracts for non-core players that can be used as salary ballast during the season. We would definitely have the depth and talent to push into the playoff race, and then we have a lot more cap space the following summer when we need it.

You’d be sacrificing signing a bigger name this year for the opportunity to do so next year, and you make it much easier to trade for a star level player.

I agree. End of the day - this makes the most sense to me. I just have not seen a name in free agency that would be signed that would be worth giving up cap space in 2021 for. And if the team does continue to show improvement, much better chance of being an option for the higher tier players. One year deals for Saric and Bayne, MLE for guard depth - I am totally on board with this.

I agree, but it really depends on whether Sarver is willing to spend the extra $9 million or whatever, which, especially in this climate, seems unlikely. I think this guy lays it out well what we should do vs what we will likely do.

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[bwgood77]

I agree. End of the day - this makes the most sense to me. I just have not seen a name in free agency that would be signed that would be worth giving up cap space in 2021 for. And if the team does continue to show improvement, much better chance of being an option for the higher tier players. One year deals for Saric and Bayne, MLE for guard depth - I am totally on board with this.

I dont think you can get a 1 year deal for Saric. He played decent all season and was huge off the bench in the bubble. He's a FA for the first time and will want to have some stability. Also, keep in mind, he's going to get offers from other teams. What if, say, Miami comes and offers him 35 million over 3 years? That's not terrible value, but it does eat up future space.

So the question becomes, are you willing to let Dario walk to preserve future space? Letting him leave creates a big hole in our roster as he's probably our second best rebounder, best bench player and one of our only serviceable big men. It would also wreck the continuity we've created, and possibly force a rookie big to take on a bigger role in his first season.

What if we let Dario walk, putting all our eggs in the 2021 basket, and we end up striking out with the big names? Then what's the plan?

I liked the way SAric played - really did. My thought was always a two year deal, team option in year 2 where the Suns overpay in Year 1. Meaning if the market as Bobby Marks wrote was 25/3 (I think) - so AAV of $8.33 - the Suns would give him $25 for two - giving him $13m in the first year so basically 150% for the one year deal.

If Saric is at 25/3 - I think I am fine giving up future cap space. If he is higher, hmm - would have to think about that. He was a solid player who really found his niche in Orlando.

The question is, did you feel he was worthy of a long term contract based on the way he played in the regular season pre-bubble or just bubble? Against the two healthy teams playing all their starters, he didn't play all that well. He played better against the teams that sat starters or were missing Sabonis/Porzingis...remember, we didn't play any teams fighting for the playoffs in the bubble but many teams treating it more like the preseason...so I guess the question is, how much stock do you put in it, especially off the bench against some of these teams, missing their starters, so likely were deep into their benches.

I don't really know the answer to this because I kind of liked Saric this year, but always felt I am fine either way. I would love to do a one year deal or 2 year team option one. I would be a little worried to go longer if we want a chance to add a star level player in 21, even though it may be unlikely, because it's likely our last chance for a long while to be able to add someone in FA.

[bwgood77]

Response to the quote below from the draft thread, which belongs here:

I have a lot of nagging questions abt our lineup next season. Cam may have worked as a stretch 4 in limited minutes, but I think we either sign a 4 or start Kelly/Mikal.

I think it would be a huge mistake to put Cam back on the bench. The way he opens up the floor for our high pick and roll action is just too valuable to our starting unit. Most anyone you put in Cam's place will make us a worse offensive team, and I don't think he was outmatched/outmuscled as a 4 in the bubble - played great D, actually. He's bigger and taller than Kelly and gives us more defensive versatility by not forcing us to put Mikal on the opposing 4.

Kelly's much better at creating his own shot, which would be more valuable off our bench, I think, since our starting lineup features our two best shot-creators in Booker and Rubio. Though I must note the good chemistry that's developed between Cam and Dario, which is a point for the contrary argument.

The biggest problem with most stretch-4s is that they can't play defense, switch or make plays. Cam does all that. He IS the stretch 4 we've been waiting for. Why mess with it?

I agree. I definitely think Cam should start. But if Kelly is here, I think there is about a 90% chance he starts. Though there isn't a reason him, Cam and MIkal all play 30+ minutes.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Spoiler:

So if Kelly O has to go, Suns getting Dinwiddie, Magic getting 10, I think it could work with bringing Minnesota into the fold. I got a little carried away with this trade idea, just a heads up, but here's what I cooked up: https://tradenba.com/trades/KRZuhdZEt

It's a lot, but it let's Phoenix and Minnesota upgrade their rosters without denouncing their FA, Brooklyn upgrades their wing defense, and Orlando grabs #10 without losing 15 and get great depth that doesn't destroy long term cap space. My only concern is that this could put Orlando in the luxury tax, but could downgrade Fournier to save money

It's not bad. However, If we're giving up BOTH Oubre AND the 10th pick, I'd need Brooklyn to add Claxton and maybe the 55th pick to the return. Because, After everything is said and done, Our part of the deal not only gets them under the tax, And allows them to more easily resign Harris ( professed key piece for them). But they also move up 9 spots into the lottery. Now Dinwiddie is good for sure! But i'm not sure he's worth giving up BOTH Oubre AND moving back 9 spots too. If we're giving up Oubre AND the 10, Why don't we just send it to Chicago for Markannen( higher value returning piece) and Sato ( better shooter for slightly cheaper) and he's only guaranteed for 5 million in 2021.

? Or we could do the 10 to Detroit for Kennard. Who's a much better shooter and ISO scorer, And for a fraction of the salary this summer. And keep Oubre, Or in a separate trade, Send him to Atlanta for the 4th pick and Dedmon (*Only 1 million guaranteed in 2021). Or to New York for the 8th pick to hopefully draft Toppin or Vassell. Ultimately, The deal is intriguing. But not without more value coming back since we're sending out both Oubre and a Top 10 pick. So for me to accept the deal, It would have to be something like:

https://tradenba.com/trades/CxZdEkbXi

Spoiler:

Only now it's:

Phoenix gets- Dinwiddie/Claxton/Josh Okogie/16(minnesota)/19(from Brooklyn).
Magic get- James Johnson/Garrett Temple/ Jake Layman/ Frank Kaminsky/ 10th pick(Phoenix).
Minnesota gets- Kelly Oubre/ Al Fariq Aminu.
Brooklyn gets- Aaron Gordon.

So for our part, It basically breaks down to- Oubre for Josh Okogie/16th pick. And the 10th pick for Dinwiddie/ Claxton/19th pick. AND with us only taking back 14 million after trading Oubre, We can now sign Grant for 14 million per to fill Oubres' salary slot.
16- Grant Riller. Will take over for Dinwiddie in 2021, When he likely opts out.
19- Tyler Bey.
***Buy a mid 2nd for Tillie.***
In free agency, Sign Grant at 42/3. Then, Resign Saric at 18/2.
- Grant (replaces Oubre).
-Okogie ( Bought out).
-Riller (replaces Okobo).
-Tyler Bey(defensive wing depth).
-Tillie (replaces Saric/ Diallo).
-Claxton (replaces Kaminsky/Baynes).

Potential lineup

-Booker/Rubio/Riller.
-Bridges/Dinwiddie/Carter.
- Grant/T Bey/Cam J.
-Cam J/ Saric/ Tillie.
-Ayton/ Grant/Claxton.

***C Payne- 4th guard/Microwave scorer/ Super 6th man off the bench!
***Ty Jerome-G League.

This is probably closer, but I can't see Brooklyn giving up #20 and Dinwiddie for AG, and with Phoenix getting Okogie, 17, and Claxton in addition to Dinwiddie, I don't think its necessary. I'll post this to the trade thread without #20 going to Phoenix and see what people think.

I didn't really want/ need Okogie. But he was added to make the salaries work for the trade machine. The nets have Levert( ball dominant), Kyrie ( ball dominant), and Durant ( ball dominant) that all as stated need the ball in their hands and all need touches to be productive/ successful. This also includes Dinwiddie too, He just hasn't been as impactful without the ball being in his hands. Not enough touches for everyone I'd wager. And I'd like to think that the nets are trying to compete over draft pick retention? The last thing they should be prioritizing is young inexpierenced players, If they're serious about competing.

Also, Us taking Dinwiddie, Saves them to 10 million to use towards the trade, To as you yourself suggested upgrade their 4 position. But if they think that's too much to give up ( a late first in a shallow/ mediocre draft) and Claxton ( a 3rd string center at best) who's barely seeing any playing time anyways.
https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/teams/bkn/brooklyn-nets/depth-chart

And........For Minnesota, Okogie ( a 3rd string 2/3)
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/MIN/minnesota-timberwolves/depth-chart/
And a 17th pick ( in a widely percieved shallow/ mediocre draft) for Oubre, Then that's fine. The deal simply doesn't happen! We'll be quite happy to keep our 10th pick, resign the majority of our roster to short term deals and head into 2021 with potential max cap space.

[bwgood77]

Just looking at the first picks OKC is owed (was wondering about a Chris Paul + picks for Ben Simmons trade). They have quite the war chest. How happy would you be Ghost if we had this many picks?

Spoiler:

2020 first round draft pick from Denver
Denver's 2020 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Oklahoma City, 7/8/2019]

2021 first round draft pick from Miami and/or Houston (swap, Oklahoma City or Miami outgoing to Houston)
Oklahoma City will receive the two most favorable of its 2021 1st round pick, Miami's 2021 1st round pick and Houston's 2021 1st round pick protected for selections 1-4 and Houston will receive the least favorable of the three (via Miami to Phoenix to Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers to Oklahoma City; via Oklahoma City's right to swap Oklahoma City or Miami for Houston) (if the Houston pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Miami-New Orleans-Phoenix, 2/19/2015; Philadelphia-Phoenix, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2022 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2022 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2023 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2023 1st round pick for the L.A. Clippers' 2023 1st round pick [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2023 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City (via L.A. Clippers) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024 and 1-14 in 2025 and unprotected in 2026 [L.A. Clippers-Miami, 7/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 second round draft pick from Memphis
Memphis' 2024 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Memphis-Oklahoma City, 7/6/2019]

2025 first round draft pick from Houston or L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2025 1st round pick for Houston's 2025 1st round pick protected for selections 1-10 or the L.A. Clippers' 2025 1st round pick (if the Houston pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[Ghost of Kleine]

Just looking at the first picks OKC is owed (was wondering about a Chris Paul + picks for Ben Simmons trade). They have quite the war chest. How happy would you be Ghost if we had this many picks?

Spoiler:

2020 first round draft pick from Denver
Denver's 2020 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [Denver-Oklahoma City, 7/8/2019]

2021 first round draft pick from Miami and/or Houston (swap, Oklahoma City or Miami outgoing to Houston)
Oklahoma City will receive the two most favorable of its 2021 1st round pick, Miami's 2021 1st round pick and Houston's 2021 1st round pick protected for selections 1-4 and Houston will receive the least favorable of the three (via Miami to Phoenix to Philadelphia to L.A. Clippers to Oklahoma City; via Oklahoma City's right to swap Oklahoma City or Miami for Houston) (if the Houston pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [Miami-New Orleans-Phoenix, 2/19/2015; Philadelphia-Phoenix, 6/21/2018; L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2022 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2022 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2023 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2023 1st round pick for the L.A. Clippers' 2023 1st round pick [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2023 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City (via L.A. Clippers) protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024 and 1-14 in 2025 and unprotected in 2026 [L.A. Clippers-Miami, 7/6/2019; L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2024 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2024 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

2024 second round draft pick from Memphis
Memphis' 2024 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Memphis-Oklahoma City, 7/6/2019]

2025 first round draft pick from Houston or L.A. Clippers (swap, Oklahoma City outgoing)
Oklahoma City has the right to swap its 2025 1st round pick for Houston's 2025 1st round pick protected for selections 1-10 or the L.A. Clippers' 2025 1st round pick (if the Houston pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyable, then Houston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished) [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from Houston
Houston's 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-4; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Houston will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City [Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/16/2019]

2026 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
L.A. Clippers' 2026 1st round pick to Oklahoma City [L.A. Clippers-Oklahoma City, 7/10/2019]

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I guess for me man, It would depend upon the particular draft and it's talent level/ depth/ etc. Also, Our roster composition, positional depth, trade market, etc. For example, I like adding at least two players from this draft because we honestly need depth at multiple positions, We're also in a potentially restrictive cap position too, And this draft, Although lacking in star potential, is pretty solid and deep with varying positional rotation and bench level players. So I think that addressing our bench depth issues via this draft is really the most cost effective method for us to be able to maintain cap flexibility for those elusive bigger scale impact free agents.

Also, any combination of these prospects could show out for us whilst on their low cost contracts and thusly vmcarry premium value in a trade for a potential star player. But to answer your question, depending upon the value of the pick, I'd prefer 2 picks average per draft, And oOKCs' draft picks are too many to make proper use of to me personally.

But if I could somehow consolidate them into a premium pick in 2021 and 2022. That's the direction that I would go!